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How do you far right fringe dumbfucks rationalize withholding the whistleblower complaint?

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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    OK, Mr. ShitForBrains, give me a reason why a whistleblower report which accuses the president of wrongdoing can be legally held by the president accused of wrongdoing when the entire purpose of whistleblower reports is to expose wrongdoing.
    Are we talking about the whistleblower report where the "whistleblower" didn't even hear or read the conversation where the "wrongdoing" is said to of occurred?
    Well, since the lunatic, lying, fringe far right is blocking the report, I assume this supposed claim is false. Anyway, even if true, may not be material.
    Really? You don't think it's material that the "whistleblower" might have determined "wrongdoing" by regurgitating 2nd or 3rd hand information? Explains a lot.
    "might".... so, have your treasonous GOP turn over the complaint and it can be determined. They are doing the same shit they did with the Mueller report. They hold it back to try to spin in advance.
    This is fabricated just like the Mueller report. We already know the whistle blower has zero actual knowledge of the event.

    People said Obama wasn't a citizen including his grandmother where was your call for a massive investigation? Hypocrite much?
    far right falsehoods and lies
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    OK, Mr. ShitForBrains, give me a reason why a whistleblower report which accuses the president of wrongdoing can be legally held by the president accused of wrongdoing when the entire purpose of whistleblower reports is to expose wrongdoing.
    Are we talking about the whistleblower report where the "whistleblower" didn't even hear or read the conversation where the "wrongdoing" is said to of occurred?
    Well, since the lunatic, lying, fringe far right is blocking the report, I assume this supposed claim is false. Anyway, even if true, may not be material.
    Really? You don't think it's material that the "whistleblower" might have determined "wrongdoing" by regurgitating 2nd or 3rd hand information? Explains a lot.
    "might".... so, have your treasonous GOP turn over the complaint and it can be determined. They are doing the same shit they did with the Mueller report. They hold it back to try to spin in advance.
    Meltdown.


    San Francisco Gay Bob and his usual deflection when he has no argument
    I have no argument? You dancing around here like a Kunt with your hair on fire talking about "treason" and "tyranny" all because Trump is doing something that he has every right as the President to do.

    No we're finding out the "whistle-blower" didn't even hear the information he is claiming first hand and doesn't even qualify as a whistle-blower under the law. He is a gossip monger and they are under no obligation to release the complaint.

    You're fucking emoting, you're not arguing.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,460 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2019
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    OK, Mr. ShitForBrains, give me a reason why a whistleblower report which accuses the president of wrongdoing can be legally held by the president accused of wrongdoing when the entire purpose of whistleblower reports is to expose wrongdoing.
    Are we talking about the whistleblower report where the "whistleblower" didn't even hear or read the conversation where the "wrongdoing" is said to of occurred?
    Well, since the lunatic, lying, fringe far right is blocking the report, I assume this supposed claim is false. Anyway, even if true, may not be material.
    Really? You don't think it's material that the "whistleblower" might have determined "wrongdoing" by regurgitating 2nd or 3rd hand information? Explains a lot.
    "might".... so, have your treasonous GOP turn over the complaint and it can be determined. They are doing the same shit they did with the Mueller report. They hold it back to try to spin in advance.
    Meltdown.


    San Francisco Gay Bob and his usual deflection when he has no argument
    I have no argument? You dancing around here like a Kunt with your hair on fire talking about "treason" and "tyranny" all because Trump is doing something that he has every right as the President to do.

    No we're finding out the "whistle-blower" didn't even hear the information he is claiming first hand and doesn't even qualify as a whistle-blower under the law. He is a gossip monger and they are under no obligation to release the complaint.

    You're fucking emoting, you're not arguing.
    But imagine all th tears and pain he's going through! He can't take too many more false scandals being proven false!
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-ordered-hold-on-military-aid-days-before-calling-ukrainian-president-officials-say

    BREAKING: Trump told Mulvaney to hold back the full $400M in aid to Ukraine days before his call to Ukraine's Zelensky.


    "Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information"
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Bolton argued to meet with Ukraine’s president and restore funding as a way to curb Russian aggression. Trump for some time was unmoved. He urged Biden probe. Giuliani urged probe. His aides began to worry move was illegal & GOP senators challenged.

    Of course Bolton was fired very soon after...
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    And? Where is the you better investigate if you want the money?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,945 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-ordered-hold-on-military-aid-days-before-calling-ukrainian-president-officials-say

    BREAKING: Trump told Mulvaney to hold back the full $400M in aid to Ukraine days before his call to Ukraine's Zelensky.


    "Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information"



    So another wapo article from thin air bites the dust?
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-ordered-hold-on-military-aid-days-before-calling-ukrainian-president-officials-say

    BREAKING: Trump told Mulvaney to hold back the full $400M in aid to Ukraine days before his call to Ukraine's Zelensky.


    "Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information"



    So another wapo article from thin air bites the dust?
    Nope. Right there on the top of the website.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-ordered-hold-on-military-aid-days-before-calling-ukrainian-president-officials-say/2019/09/23/
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,945 Founders Club
    Your butt buddy provided a working link

    Nothing there

    Particularly since you believe in coincidence when it comes to Biden

    Imagine a president deciding if 400 million in aid is worth spending. IMPEACH Now
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    We just finished a 2 year, taxpayer funded clown-show to 'investigate' Russian collusion. I think we should investigate Schmoe Biden and his scumbag son for Ukranian collusion.
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    Your butt buddy provided a working link

    Nothing there

    Particularly since you believe in coincidence when it comes to Biden

    Imagine a president deciding if 400 million in aid is worth spending. IMPEACH Now

    So you’ve moved from lying that aide wasn’t withheld to just implying Trump was simply trying to decide if it was worth spending and the timing with the repeated pressure to investigate was pure coincidence...by tomorrow you’ll have moved to “it was absolutely within his right to tie aide to intervening in our election by investigating his political rivals!”
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-ordered-hold-on-military-aid-days-before-calling-ukrainian-president-officials-say

    BREAKING: Trump told Mulvaney to hold back the full $400M in aid to Ukraine days before his call to Ukraine's Zelensky.


    "Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information"
    It's a quid pro quo as plain as the books -- with or without a smoking gun. If this were the only issue, maybe no impeachment. But Trump elicited help from the Kremlin to hack his opponents, the Kremlin came through and hacked the DNC, Trump knew about it, he benefited from stolen information, but he did not ever report this to the FBI. That alone is impeachable (call it "collusion" or whatever). Then he obstructed. Obstruction is like ordering a hit on somebody. It doesn't matter if it is carried through to completion. The president cannot order obstruction -- he did. Then he ordered Cohen to pay off to keep his prostitution affair quiet -- an offense which Cohen is in jail for and we have the cancelled checks! Then he also has been routing business to his hotels, a clear violation of emoluments. He lies about who pays his tariffs. He lied repeatedly to the American public that China pays, but we pay. He committed gross racial misconduct by telling members of the House to go back to "their own countries." These will be the articles of impeachment.

    You far right motherfuckers don't get -- your brains are so sick and idiotic that no amount of evidence would ever convince you. Now fuck off.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    It’s been a devastating week for trumptards. Sad to see that not a single one has an ounce of integrity.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,921

    It’s been a devastating week for trumptards. Sad to see that not a single one has an ounce of integrity.

    You’re still droning on about this? It’s football season you fucking loser
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    It’s been a devastating week for trumptards. Sad to see that not a single one has an ounce of integrity.

    You’re still droning on about this? It’s football season you fucking loser
    See?
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,921
    edited September 2019

    It’s been a devastating week for trumptards. Sad to see that not a single one has an ounce of integrity.

    You’re still droning on about this? It’s football season you fucking loser
    See?
    I couldn’t care less about any of this. You all suck in my book #perspective
    (Except for @RaceBannon i have respeck for my elders!!)
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    It’s been a devastating week for trumptards. Sad to see that not a single one has an ounce of integrity.

    You’re still droning on about this? It’s football season you fucking loser
    See?
    I couldn’t care less about any of this. You all suck in my book #perspective
    Keep posting on the tug until your testicles finally drop then you little bitch.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,921
    edited September 2019

    It’s been a devastating week for trumptards. Sad to see that not a single one has an ounce of integrity.

    You’re still droning on about this? It’s football season you fucking loser
    See?
    I couldn’t care less about any of this. You all suck in my book #perspective
    Keep posting on the tug until your testicles finally drop then you little bitch.
    What did you say to me bitch!!?!?

    You wanna take the gloves off and rumble bro?!?!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-ordered-hold-on-military-aid-days-before-calling-ukrainian-president-officials-say

    BREAKING: Trump told Mulvaney to hold back the full $400M in aid to Ukraine days before his call to Ukraine's Zelensky.


    "Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information"
    It's a quid pro quo as plain as the books -- with or without a smoking gun. If this were the only issue, maybe no impeachment. But Trump elicited help from the Kremlin to hack his opponents, the Kremlin came through and hacked the DNC, Trump knew about it, he benefited from stolen information, but he did not ever report this to the FBI. That alone is impeachable (call it "collusion" or whatever). Then he obstructed. Obstruction is like ordering a hit on somebody. It doesn't matter if it is carried through to completion. The president cannot order obstruction -- he did. Then he ordered Cohen to pay off to keep his prostitution affair quiet -- an offense which Cohen is in jail for and we have the cancelled checks! Then he also has been routing business to his hotels, a clear violation of emoluments. He lies about who pays his tariffs. He lied repeatedly to the American public that China pays, but we pay. He committed gross racial misconduct by telling members of the House to go back to "their own countries." These will be the articles of impeachment.

    You far right motherfuckers don't get -- your brains are so sick and idiotic that no amount of evidence would ever convince you. Now fuck off.
    "Your side" had more than 2 years to prove these tall tales (that were designed to draw attention away from the actual deep state criminals who were conducting an attempted coup) and came up with nothing.

    Take your toys and go home, you and Robert Mueller, the decorated war 'hero' who helped the Saudis get away with 9/11.
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