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How do you far right fringe dumbfucks rationalize withholding the whistleblower complaint?

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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
    What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
    What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.
    Ridiculous comment. JFC.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,975
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    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    There is no point in using logical reasoning with Trump supporters (they let his behavior go, just 'cuz). But I was curious how they justify it. There is of course no justification to withhold a whistleblower complaint to Congress, which is what Pelosi is basically saying.
    That's fucking ironic.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,975
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
    What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.
    Ridiculous comment. JFC.
    Great non-answer as always.
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
    What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.
    Ridiculous comment. JFC.
    It’s pretty obvious you label it ridiculous in order to avoid answering an inconvenient question you have no logical answer for.😂

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,498
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
    What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.
    Ridiculous comment. JFC.
    You act as though presidents don't use foreign aid to influence other countries leaders on a daily basis. Because it's Biden is why you're pissed. Odd you're not calling out Biden for enriching his son (I'm sure Sonny paid Dad too) by WITHHOLDING AID TO STOP AN INVESTIGATION!
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!
    You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.
    I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?
    No whistleblower
    What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.
    Ridiculous comment. JFC.
    White flag so soon?
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    pawz said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Can you understand the insanity of having a n entire class of morons make shit up about you for three years, and when it was all found to be untrue, they Trump-up another fictious allegation? Can you imagine?
    That's false
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,670
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    Because I want the left to lose at everything

    Next question
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    Blu82Blu82 Member Posts: 1,534
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    pawz said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
    Can you understand the insanity of having a n entire class of morons make shit up about you for three years, and when it was all found to be untrue, they Trump-up another fictious allegation? Can you imagine?
    That's false
    I have some real estate you may be interested in.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    Just wait until there's 5G across the country.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    2001400ex said:

    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    Just wait until there's 5G across the country.
    Another useful thing the 2nd amendment is good for. I consider 5g as a personal threat, and I'll personally shoot, deface and destroy any small cell 5g installation that they try to put on or next to my property.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    Just wait until there's 5G across the country.
    Another useful thing the 2nd amendment is good for. I consider 5g as a personal threat, and I'll personally shoot, deface and destroy any small cell 5g installation that they try to put on or next to my property.
    They are forcing you to put 5G tech on your property? Scary shit man.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    In the Tug, AOG is like Central trying to take on a division 1 opponent. I would say that he knows pregame that he's going to get clobbered 77-3 once he takes the field, but self-awareness isn't one of his strong suits.

    Just wait until there's 5G across the country.
    Another useful thing the 2nd amendment is good for. I consider 5g as a personal threat, and I'll personally shoot, deface and destroy any small cell 5g installation that they try to put on or next to my property.
    They are forcing you to put 5G tech on your property? Scary shit man.
    You should get out of your bunker and read something beside the New York Times and Washington Post. You would know about Trump and former Verizon employee and shill, Ajit Pai's forced rollout of this untested technology on the citizens of the US. The plan is to have it on every block, in every home, with an installation positioned every 300 to 800 ft. The hands of local governments have been tied and they can't oppose it. Odd how it's been banned in West Palm Beach though. I thought Trump loved 5g. You would think he would want it in his own neighborhood since it's so great.
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