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How do you far right fringe dumbfucks rationalize withholding the whistleblower complaint?

ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/92219
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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    Sledog said:

    Because it's fake. HTH

    We live in the post truth age, so you decide what is true, regardless of what is true?
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    edited September 2019
    The law is a violation of executive privilege and was never intended to apply to the President, let it play out in the courts.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Because Obama, Hillary, Biden and Hunter Biden. That's why.
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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    2001400ex said:

    Because Obama, Hillary, Biden and Hunter Biden. That's why.

    Yeah, the story has nothing to do with Biden, how dare anyone bring it up.

    Fucking dipshit
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    The law is a violation of executive privilege and was never intended to apply to the President, let it play out in the courts.

    In your words. Who exactly can use executive privilege other than the president?
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The law is a violation of executive privilege and was never intended to apply to the President, let it play out in the courts.

    In your words. Who exactly can use executive privilege other than the president?
    Fucking moron
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    There is no point in using logical reasoning with Trump supporters (they let his behavior go, just 'cuz). But I was curious how they justify it. There is of course no justification to withhold a whistleblower complaint to Congress, which is what Pelosi is basically saying.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,881 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
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  • GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
    People see what they want to see. Its not exclusive to one side either.
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    The matter could be cleared up with the lawful release of the complaint.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    It's fun to pretend.
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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
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