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Oregon will finally have a back who can run pistol in benson next year. Of course, Arroyo will be gone (hopefully) by then so we’ll be back to zone readgreenblood said:
If Oregon lands Noah Sewell, I'd love to see him at half back.creepycoug said:
Last time I saw him touch the ball was late in the 4th against Montana. He housed that one but it was Montana.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Me too, Felix has proved to be good so far, and he showed up for the Auburn game. Felix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dye. Felix must have got into some kind of trouble recently, didn't see him play at all against Cal.creepycoug said:
Verdell is pretty physical a d Norh/ South but is injury prone.greenblood said:
The biggest issue is our lack of a running game. That has a lot to do with the backs not having the build to be successful in a pistol set. The pistol is most effective with strong north/south backs. Our current backs go down when the wind changes. They need to run the offense out of the spread until they get a LaGarret Blount bruiser in the backfieldoregonblitzkrieg said:
In the case of Marcus Arroyo vs Oregon, the jury has reached a verdict:creepycoug said:
Dude. By all accounts Shough (or however you spell it) is a strong successor. I get the frustrations with Herbert but you're a little over the top with it. He's not the most mentally strong guy I've seen play, but the guy can and does make all the throws. He's a little slow and tentative and times, but then again, he's looking at what Eason is looking at: midgets and a tight end. Herbert deals with that by being too careful and indecisive; Eason deals with it by just ripping the shit out of the ball and hoping it works out. Both flawed, but neither is a shit case.oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's hard to judge Cristobal's skills or lack thereof when he continues to employ an asshat as OC. Cristobal is too chummy with his old friends and wants to give them jerbs, he needs to cut ties with these incompetent lackeys. Arroyo should have been fired at the end of last season. He hasn't found a competent QB to replace Herbert yet either.creepycoug said:
I give you shit more out of the Oregon takes. You (and you are certainly not alone on this) buried Cristobal before he even got started. The overrated recruiting chatter has quieted significantly; but the meathead poser tuff guy take still holds here.haie said:
I don't see even the doogliest here giving Pete more time.creepycoug said:
Nice comeback.haie said:
Miami is buried forever underneath an NFL Stadium.creepycoug said:
Bumpity Bump Bump BUMP!haie said:Including @creepycoug
Secretly, even @MikeSeaver
El oh El
Oregon looks like ass despite the North being dreck.
Hope you are enjoying your screenshots!!!
#year6
The leveling up, super cool Clemson, ///, everything Matters bullshit never belonged to me.
I wanted another conference title and a new years 6 bull which after 6 seasons it's clear everything has to fall 100% perfectly for this staff to even be in the realm of upsetting an Iowa/Mich State type of team for that.
He may as yet shit the bed this season. Time will tell. The O offense is almost as shitty as Washington's. That will cost them eventually, particularly on the road.
As to coordinators ... jury is out on Arroyo, but it's pretty clear he made a good hire in Avalos.
His impotent offense is the weak link. I've seen nothing from Shough that indicates whether is he is good or a dud. But the fact that Herbert remains the starting QB isn't a good sign. Other teams have the @ballz to replace their starting QBs when they are underperforming.
Notice Oregon's running game goes wel early in almost any game until Versell inevitably get dinged. Then it disappears.
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Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!! -
The UW offense has under-performed under multiple OCs. Arroyo wasn't even Cristobal's hire. Taggart hired Arroyo, which says a lot. If Cristobal hires a replacement (wait till he gets his guy in there hardy har har) and it still sputters, yeah, Cristobal owns it.haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!! -
This. Mario got rid of one inherited coordinator and made an A+ hire. Time to do the second this offseasongreenblood said:
The UW offense has under-performed under multiple OCs. Arroyo wasn't even Cristobal's hire. Taggart hired Arroyo, which says a lot. If Cristobal hires a replacement (wait till he gets his guy in there hardy har har) and it still sputters, yeah, Cristobal owns it.haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!! -
There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
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DoogCourics said:
Speaking of....oregonblitzkrieg said:uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.
After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?
My wife had two cancer surgeries for ovarian Cancer. Thank you for your concern.DoogCourics said:
Speaking of....oregonblitzkrieg said:uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.
After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?
Some of us old Woodshed denizens from the old Educk also have our own small board.
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I support DJDuck and his informative duck articles. This is a quook board. LEAVE if you don't like it.
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They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.oregonblitzkrieg said:There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
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So he didn't want turnover or change from last year's coug game, from last years Arizona game? Pairing an FS OC with an FS QB = the offensive results we saw on the field last year, what we're seeing on the field this year. Arroyo is a high school level OC. Hebert is a dunce who likes to throw low percentage deep balls more than he likes throwing short, complete-able passes for first downs. The offense is a mess, and doesn't represent Oregon football well.ntxduck said:
They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.oregonblitzkrieg said:There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
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You’re preaching to the choir.oregonblitzkrieg said:
So he didn't want turnover or change from last year's coug game, from last years Arizona game? Pairing an FS OC with an FS QB = the offensive results we saw on the field last year, what we're seeing on the field this year. Arroyo is a high school level OC. Hebert is a dunce who likes to throw low percentage deep balls more than he likes throwing short, complete-able passes for first downs. The offense is a mess, and doesn't represent Oregon football well.ntxduck said:
They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.oregonblitzkrieg said:There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
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ntxduck said:
They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.oregonblitzkrieg said:There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
ntxduck said:
They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.oregonblitzkrieg said:There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
Do you have some evidence tjat they are not close? I heave heard they are from private Duck sources.ntxduck said:
They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.oregonblitzkrieg said:There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.
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T’s & P’s to you and your wife. Legitimately.DJDuck said:DoogCourics said:
Speaking of....oregonblitzkrieg said:uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.
After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?
My wife had two cancer surgeries for ovarian Cancer. Thank you for your concern.DoogCourics said:
Speaking of....oregonblitzkrieg said:uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.
After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?
Some of us old Woodshed denizens from the old Educk also have our own small board.
I hope the surgeries work and she continues to get better. -
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table. -
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tldrcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table. -
He sure sounds like your boyfriendcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.
Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case -
Those tickets are already fully booked.RaceBannon said:
He sure sounds like your boyfriendcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.
Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case
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Haie also doesn’t post on the sabbath after a loss now apparentlyoregonblitzkrieg said:
Those tickets are already fully booked.RaceBannon said:
He sure sounds like your boyfriendcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.
Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case
@haie
@StrongArmCobra -
So nothing to add. Got it.RaceBannon said:
He sure sounds like your boyfriendcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.
Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case
Not my boyfriend. Just bring something. Anything. But "Oregon fans aren't mad enough at Cristo" just doesn't make it. It's stupid and pointless. HC owns everything where I come from. -
Yep. Boyfriend. Confirmed
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Translation: I read it and have been trying to find a way to back out of my latest theory and looked to the Racebannon playbook for a move.haie said:
tldrcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.
Be a man and be your own man.
Nope. I would know.RaceBannon said:Yep. Boyfriend. Confirmed
And I just got back from Hawaii. Big Island. Family. Walks on the beach. Whole thing.
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How long were you gone after the Auburn loss? Was it two weeks or three
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What a weird thing to care about.haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!! -
You absolutely did.haie said:
tldrcreepycoug said:
So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?haie said:Petersen's offense sucks.
But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!
Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.
Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.
But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.
In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.
He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table. -
I had a problem I was dealing with just like DJ only different.RaceBannon said:How long were you gone after the Auburn loss? Was it two weeks or three
Your boyfriend broke your heart
Thanks for asking.
Let's stay on topic. Do you disagree that the HC owns everything? Do you, too, lose sleep over whether fans are laying sufficient blame on the HC over the offense sucking?
This is starting to feel like open season on Cubans.
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So after harassing ballz unmercifully you do the same thing and think you get a pass?
Hang with ducks get shot like a duck -
I did Ballz a favor with that Code Red. Everybody knows that.RaceBannon said:So after harassing ballz unmercifully you do the same thing and think you get a pass?
Hang with ducks get shot like a duck
I'm just here trying to express my feelings.
And for the record, I was surprised af that Oregon even hung with them as long as they did. I was on record (look it up) predicting an ass throttling. Very different from Ballz. -
CreepyQuook is an honorary duck.
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I just call 'em like I see 'em.oregonblitzkrieg said:CreepyQuook is an honorary duck.
