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The Riddle of the Gun - Great piece by Sam Harris

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  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    Sam Harris owns several guns and trains regularly. He references the carnage people have done with a knife and you would rather have a gun in your hand facing someone wielding a knife.

    He points out if someone breaks into your home do you think the police will arrive in time? He would rather not find out. When seconds can matter he would rather defend himself.

    References any legislation is pointless and only limits good people from having guns as bad people will get them anyway by any means.



  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    Sam Harris owns several guns and trains regularly. He references the carnage people have done with a knife and you would rather have a gun in your hand facing someone wielding a knife.

    He points out if someone breaks into your home do you think the police will arrive in time? He would rather not find out. When seconds can matter he would rather defend himself.

    References any legislation is pointless and only limits good people from having guns as bad people will get them anyway by any means.

    "Bad guys" is too simplistic. I'd support most recommendations to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people.

    Every American is born with the right to bear arms. But crazy Americans? That's where I'd start drawing lines.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527

    jecornel said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    Sam Harris owns several guns and trains regularly. He references the carnage people have done with a knife and you would rather have a gun in your hand facing someone wielding a knife.

    He points out if someone breaks into your home do you think the police will arrive in time? He would rather not find out. When seconds can matter he would rather defend himself.

    References any legislation is pointless and only limits good people from having guns as bad people will get them anyway by any means.

    Every American is born with the right to bear arms. But crazy Americans? That's where I'd start drawing lines.
    Your quarrel is with Sled.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    jecornel said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    Sam Harris owns several guns and trains regularly. He references the carnage people have done with a knife and you would rather have a gun in your hand facing someone wielding a knife.

    He points out if someone breaks into your home do you think the police will arrive in time? He would rather not find out. When seconds can matter he would rather defend himself.

    References any legislation is pointless and only limits good people from having guns as bad people will get them anyway by any means.

    Every American is born with the right to bear arms. But crazy Americans? That's where I'd start drawing lines.
    Your quarrel is with Sled.
    And you're a fag. So what?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527

    HHusky said:

    jecornel said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    Sam Harris owns several guns and trains regularly. He references the carnage people have done with a knife and you would rather have a gun in your hand facing someone wielding a knife.

    He points out if someone breaks into your home do you think the police will arrive in time? He would rather not find out. When seconds can matter he would rather defend himself.

    References any legislation is pointless and only limits good people from having guns as bad people will get them anyway by any means.

    Every American is born with the right to bear arms. But crazy Americans? That's where I'd start drawing lines.
    Your quarrel is with Sled.
    And you're a fag. So what?
    You say it like it's a bad thing.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,795 Standard Supporter

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    These sheeple can't understand fighting back. They are incapable of taking care of themselves. They rely on others with balls big enough to protect them. Sheepdogs to protect them from the wolves. They'd hide with the women and children. They're tough like that.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,795 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2019
    HHusky said:

    jecornel said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    Sam Harris owns several guns and trains regularly. He references the carnage people have done with a knife and you would rather have a gun in your hand facing someone wielding a knife.

    He points out if someone breaks into your home do you think the police will arrive in time? He would rather not find out. When seconds can matter he would rather defend himself.

    References any legislation is pointless and only limits good people from having guns as bad people will get them anyway by any means.

    Every American is born with the right to bear arms. But crazy Americans? That's where I'd start drawing lines.
    Your quarrel is with Sled.
    Crazy purple shouldn't get guns. I agree completely. If your taking any pyschotropic drug you should be on a list. HTH
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527
    Sledog said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    These sheeple can't understand fighting back. They are incapable of taking care of themselves. They rely on others with balls big enough to protect them. Sheepdogs to protect them from the wolves. They'd hide with the women and children. They're tough like that.
    Yeah you won't see MallCop wandering the grocery store without a drawn pistol.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,795 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    jecornel said:

    Well, essentially he is arguing that gun free zones are bullshit and schools need to arm themselves with people properly trained to handle a fire arm.

    I'm not sure what article you read.

    DR, but if that's true it's what I want. Turn soft targets into hard targets and the shooters taste their own lead. Fairly strong deterrent in my mind.

    And for the "they want to die anyway" argument, fine. But they're not taking 20+ with them if the biology teacher caps their ass after firing 3 shots.

    The Walmart shooter had 20 fucking minutes to kill. Shorten that time frame, save lives.
    These sheeple can't understand fighting back. They are incapable of taking care of themselves. They rely on others with balls big enough to protect them. Sheepdogs to protect them from the wolves. They'd hide with the women and children. They're tough like that.
    Yeah you won't see MallCop wandering the grocery store without a drawn pistol.
    You won't see me wandering anywhere without a gun. Why do I carry a gun everywhere? Because I can! I'm not paranoid, I have a gun. I don't carry it to force my will upon others. I carry it so others can't force their will upon me and mine.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527
    edited August 2019


    MallCop: "Crazy purple shouldn't get guns. I agree completely. If your taking any pyschotropic drug you should be on a list. HTH"



    Yeah, you just don't want anyone drawing any "unfair" conclusions about the sanity of a fucking nut job who believes the Seth Rich conspiracy, for example.