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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,819

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    Lets do the same with voting.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,819
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    Lets do the same with voting.
    If only just to end the slaughter of innocents caused by universal suffrage, I guess.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,016 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    Another mass shooting today. Nothing can possibly be done, of course. ‘Cuz freedom.

    HHusky said:

    Another mass shooting today. Nothing can possibly be done, of course. ‘Cuz freedom.

    There have been 300 killings in Chicago so far this year. Can you send me a link to the thread where you addressed those horrific murders?

    Making political points off of some murdering devil is cheap even for you HH.
    Do you really not know the difference between Chicago violence and a random person in a Walmart shooting a bunch of random people up.
    People in Chicago are black so no one cares?
    Can't expect black people to follow laws, get ID, have jobs, etc.

    Amirite hondo
    No. And that's racist. HTH
    We really can’t stop aggrieved psychopaths ‘cuz Chicago, obviously!

    You two idiots are hypocrites who are blatently taking advantage of these situations for political gain. You really don't care about the victims. An African American kills 8 cops in Dallas, not a peep. Some rando home grown terrorist and his little helper shooting and killing people on the highway in the MW, crickets. 300 deaths so far this year in liberal utopia Chicago, nada from you two idiots.

    IT has nothing to do with Chicago and everything to do with your hypocrisy and politics at all cost. The victims are only traction for your politics.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,819

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    Another mass shooting today. Nothing can possibly be done, of course. ‘Cuz freedom.

    HHusky said:

    Another mass shooting today. Nothing can possibly be done, of course. ‘Cuz freedom.

    There have been 300 killings in Chicago so far this year. Can you send me a link to the thread where you addressed those horrific murders?

    Making political points off of some murdering devil is cheap even for you HH.
    Do you really not know the difference between Chicago violence and a random person in a Walmart shooting a bunch of random people up.
    People in Chicago are black so no one cares?
    Can't expect black people to follow laws, get ID, have jobs, etc.

    Amirite hondo
    No. And that's racist. HTH
    We really can’t stop aggrieved psychopaths ‘cuz Chicago, obviously!

    You two idiots are hypocrites who are blatently taking advantage of these situations for political gain. You really don't care about the victims. An African American kills 8 cops in Dallas, not a peep. Some rando home grown terrorist and his little helper shooting and killing people on the highway in the MW, crickets. 300 deaths so far this year in liberal utopia Chicago, nada from you two idiots.

    IT has nothing to do with Chicago and everything to do with your hypocrisy and politics at all cost. The victims are only traction for your politics.
    Well Atl, I remember when you were more troubled by the gun issue. I see you’ve “evolved” to gundamentalism. Is that simply a reaction to who is on the other side or are you now armed?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    Another mass shooting today. Nothing can possibly be done, of course. ‘Cuz freedom.

    HHusky said:

    Another mass shooting today. Nothing can possibly be done, of course. ‘Cuz freedom.

    There have been 300 killings in Chicago so far this year. Can you send me a link to the thread where you addressed those horrific murders?

    Making political points off of some murdering devil is cheap even for you HH.
    Do you really not know the difference between Chicago violence and a random person in a Walmart shooting a bunch of random people up.
    People in Chicago are black so no one cares?
    Can't expect black people to follow laws, get ID, have jobs, etc.

    Amirite hondo
    No. And that's racist. HTH
    We really can’t stop aggrieved psychopaths ‘cuz Chicago, obviously!

    You two idiots are hypocrites who are blatently taking advantage of these situations for political gain. You really don't care about the victims. An African American kills 8 cops in Dallas, not a peep. Some rando home grown terrorist and his little helper shooting and killing people on the highway in the MW, crickets. 300 deaths so far this year in liberal utopia Chicago, nada from you two idiots.

    IT has nothing to do with Chicago and everything to do with your hypocrisy and politics at all cost. The victims are only traction for your politics.
    Are you shaking and about to vomit over your moral outrage? Kinda like when people pick an act of violence by an illegal alien, hang enough paper about it to make Goebbels blush, then pretend to care about the victim and launch into immigration politics, a practice that has helped immigration become the single largest area of focus in American politics? Kinda like that? Kinda like when an illegal alien rapes some white girl and then I don't hear you saying shit about 300 in Chicago? Hey, if the illegal alien weren't here, that rape doesn't happen. Hey, if that kid in the South Side doesn't have that gun, no shooting? Kinda like that level or rhetoric?

    I profess to have no ready answers for mass shootings and thus refrain from laying blame at anybody's feet. But when you and your goon friends pontificate here on your moral high horse and moan "but politics" it's just too fucking rich for my blood.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220
    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220
    Sledog said:

    This white supremacist terrorism is only going to get worse if any Democrat wins in 2020. Spare us the pearl clutching about antifa and their nonexistent body count.

    Right outlaw white men. All of them. Who's going to do the shooting? You?

    And the socialist genocide seeds are already growing.
    Don't be so dramatic. It's unbecoming of a former tuff cop.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220

    Get rid of it legally and openly then

    Lefties tell us that a Trump speech or people shouting send them back is dangerous and could cause violence

    But violent imagery and video games don't effect diseased minds.

    Doesn't matter we have a First Ammendment.

    I support the Bill of Rights

    All of it

    If you don't like it change it

    Picking stupid laws that only law abiding citizens follow isn't going to stop shit

    It's just an eternal campaign issue

    I know it (this line of reasoning) has become cliche now that it is in the hands of the masses, many of which are otherwise stupid, but as the old saying goes, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm not actually being followed.

    Simple as it sounds, that is the issue right there. Collecting guns in inpracticable and there will without a doubt be an active and healthy black market for them. You'll only create more crime. It's just like drugs. There is no perceptible difference.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,819
    edited August 2019

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    I’m not setting any unrealistic expectations. I understand many will violate the law if you tighten regulation. But there should be no question that those who do so will be punished if caught. And I’m all for allowing people who pass robust vetting to possess some types of firearms.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    I’m not setting any unrealistic expectations. I understand many will violate the law if you tighten regulation. But there should be no question that those who do so will be punished.
    It's worked so well for drugs. The left just makes more lenient laws or doesn't enforce them or simply releases all those convicted as in Kalifornia.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    Those first ten amendments are granted to us by the government. They are rules the government can not violate.
    Considered to be preexisting and inalienable and endowed on us by the creator.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,819
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    I’m not setting any unrealistic expectations. I understand many will violate the law if you tighten regulation. But there should be no question that those who do so will be punished.
    It's worked so well for drugs. The left just makes more lenient laws or doesn't enforce them or simply releases all those convicted as in Kalifornia.
    Madam, you really need to pick a lane. “The left” is more behind the effort I’m proposing than the right is. And fines can also be criminal penalties. Jail time isn’t the only option.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    I’m not setting any unrealistic expectations. I understand many will violate the law if you tighten regulation. But there should be no question that those who do so will be punished.
    It's worked so well for drugs. The left just makes more lenient laws or doesn't enforce them or simply releases all those convicted as in Kalifornia.
    You realize you're starting down a road of arguing against your own argument, right?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220
    Sledog said:

    Those first ten amendments are granted to us by the government. They are rules the government can not violate.
    Considered to be preexisting and inalienable and endowed on us by the creator.

    If they are granted by the government how can they be pre-existing and endowed on us by the creator?
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    New Zealand just did it in 28 days. But hey...it’s unrealistic...
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,220
    Are you sure they collectedZ them all? Let's wait until there are no mass shootings in NZ before popping off.

    Also, aren't there only like 18 people in NZ? I think the US is a much bigger can of worms.

    Other than that, I like your spunk.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Those first ten amendments are granted to us by the government. They are rules the government can not violate.
    Considered to be preexisting and inalienable and endowed on us by the creator.

    If they are granted by the government how can they be pre-existing and endowed on us by the creator?
    Phone slip. somehow "not" didn't make the post. But you knew that.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    I’m not setting any unrealistic expectations. I understand many will violate the law if you tighten regulation. But there should be no question that those who do so will be punished.
    It's worked so well for drugs. The left just makes more lenient laws or doesn't enforce them or simply releases all those convicted as in Kalifornia.
    Madam, you really need to pick a lane. “The left” is more behind the effort I’m proposing than the right is. And fines can also be criminal penalties. Jail time isn’t the only option.
    The left doesn't enforce shit if they think they can get a vote out of it. Felon voting. Let's see who's in favor of that? Illegals voting? States now register them. Who'd do such a thing? Let 60K felons out of prison? Why must be those conservatives.......
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    I have nothing to add here. We've always had guns and we've always had mental illness. Don't know what's changed other than the first guy who let the genie out of the bottle and then established the blue print for the bananas that followed.

    Sure I think it would be marginally helpful for everyone to tone down the political rhetoric, but it's not going to stop it entirely. Fanning the flames of one nut's issue dejour doesn't help of course but it isn't the root cause of the whole thing IMHO. The guy who killed 21 in San Diego bought a boom box with him and played that dreadful The Warrior song. I remember people arguing "it was that song!" Lolz.

    More guns so everyone can shoot back? Sounds like more mess to me, even though it's a sledog wet dream. But, Never going to collect them all. Nutties will always find them. Too late for that.

    I got nothing here. Except maybe just stay home.

    Time to “infringe” on this privilege, not right. Let’s know who has guns and make them qualify and requalify to possess them. Hard time for unlawful possession. And some weapons should simply be unlawful per se.

    And no, any step toward improvement won’t be simple or perfect. But not one of these gun fetshists talking about mental illness really want to do anything about that either. It’s just a distraction.
    It is not practicably feasible to collect the guns. Sure, I'll take tighter regulation. Most reasonable people would. But guns are here to stay. Have to make peace with it and find a work around to the problem, if there be one to find.
    New Zealand just did it in 28 days. But hey...it’s unrealistic...
    No ones turning in shit in New Zealand and they don't know who has them to go out collecting. How's those bans back east going? No ones turned in shit there either.
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