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Locker was a better runner. He didn't have Stanback's quick twitchiness or flat out speed, but had better feel, vision and moves not to mention power.dnc said:
I mean Jake ran 172 times for damn near 6 yards a carry and 13 TDs. As a freshman.creepycoug said:
It's a shame. He's in the legitimate 'freak' athlete category, a term that gets thrown around much too loosely. I honestly am sitting here and cannot think of another player from any team that had that combination of arm strength and speed. I understand from people who watched him play at Garfield that his throws from the outfield to home plate were flatly ridiculous. His throws would catch kids tagging up from 3rd 3 and 4 strides away from the plate ... like "no fucking chance buddy" throws. Dave Parker throws from a kid who was a legitimate Pac 10 sprinter. Who could also play QB - small detail.chuck said:
You and I represent most of his fan club. The fucking guy was surrounded by 2* talent (not Chambers though he could've been great), back to back 1* coaching staffs, and a fucking retarded fan base. That staff had no idea how to use him and never really wanted to use him in the first place.creepycoug said:
Dude, count the yards. That's 75 yds. in the air, and he caught it high. That thing was going to land 2 yds. in the endzone.chuck said:backthepack said:
That’s the greatest throw I have ever seen...Gladstone said:
Amazing to think Georgia lost this game.
https://youtu.be/YfJWCBboCYc
Yes, IS could chuck it.
And run the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds.
And was drafted by MLB even though he declined to play besball at UW.
Please name someone else you know who has all three of those to the degree Stanback did.
Kid was wasted here, and I'll keep arguing this for the rest of my life - vastly underappreciated. A reasonable debate can be made that IS is the best pure athlete to ever suit up for Washington. And a full 80% of the fan base doesn't even remember him.
No, I don't know him in real life. But thanks for getting me started on this again.
What bothered me the most was how much we? slobbered over Jake Lockner on the basis of his overall athleticism ... the very same platform that IS presented. I could see if you have a bias for accurate pocket guys in the tradition of Pelluer and Chandler ... but if you love Jack Lockner you ought to be in our fan club. People only hypothesized that Lockner could have been a safety or running back ... Stanback had to actually reinvent himself as a receiver in the NFL - and he actually did it.
Isaiah never did anything close to that.
Obviously he never got to run the spread option and maybe he could have had those kind of results if he did. But for Jake it wasn't hypothetical athleticism, it was demonstrated athleticism.
I don't agree that it's primarily racism that caused Jake to get so much more attention. It was the fact he was a state champion in HS which allowed him to have more hype coming in and the fact his freshman year was so damn productive (as a runner).
IS had neither of those things to create hype.
He's definitely under appreciated. And Jake's definitely overrated. But there were reasons for both without having to play the race card.
Locker came from a program structured around him running the ball. Stanback came from a program structured around him running around in survival mode u till the defense forgot about a receiver who he would chuck it to.
When Stanback threw with rhythm from an actual pocket he was a better passer than Locker. -
I honestly don't disagree with any of that.creepycoug said:
I used to play the race card on this one, but I've backed off from it in recent years because I know my city is pretty progressive and enlightened on such matters. Especially when compared to places like the soufeastern US and the Willamette Valley, from whence fuck face and his band of hillbillies hail. I think there could be some related cultural undertones there - Garfield is our inner city and Ferndale is our bible belt. That kind of shit. And Lockner had that hackneyed Farm Boy shit routine going that Keith Jackson would have lopped up like a thirsty dog. IS was all city.dnc said:
I mean Jake ran 172 times for damn near 6 yards a carry and 13 TDs. As a freshman.creepycoug said:
It's a shame. He's in the legitimate 'freak' athlete category, a term that gets thrown around much too loosely. I honestly am sitting here and cannot think of another player from any team that had that combination of arm strength and speed. I understand from people who watched him play at Garfield that his throws from the outfield to home plate were flatly ridiculous. His throws would catch kids tagging up from 3rd 3 and 4 strides away from the plate ... like "no fucking chance buddy" throws. Dave Parker throws from a kid who was a legitimate Pac 10 sprinter. Who could also play QB - small detail.chuck said:
You and I represent most of his fan club. The fucking guy was surrounded by 2* talent (not Chambers though he could've been great), back to back 1* coaching staffs, and a fucking retarded fan base. That staff had no idea how to use him and never really wanted to use him in the first place.creepycoug said:
Dude, count the yards. That's 75 yds. in the air, and he caught it high. That thing was going to land 2 yds. in the endzone.chuck said:backthepack said:
That’s the greatest throw I have ever seen...Gladstone said:
Amazing to think Georgia lost this game.https://youtu.be/YfJWCBboCYc
Yes, IS could chuck it.
And run the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds.
And was drafted by MLB even though he declined to play besball at UW.
Please name someone else you know who has all three of those to the degree Stanback did.
Kid was wasted here, and I'll keep arguing this for the rest of my life - vastly underappreciated. A reasonable debate can be made that IS is the best pure athlete to ever suit up for Washington. And a full 80% of the fan base doesn't even remember him.
No, I don't know him in real life. But thanks for getting me started on this again.
What bothered me the most was how much we? slobbered over Jake Lockner on the basis of his overall athleticism ... the very same platform that IS presented. I could see if you have a bias for accurate pocket guys in the tradition of Pelluer and Chandler ... but if you love Jack Lockner you ought to be in our fan club. People only hypothesized that Lockner could have been a safety or running back ... Stanback had to actually reinvent himself as a receiver in the NFL - and he actually did it.
Isaiah never did anything close to that.
Obviously he never got to run the spread option and maybe he could have had those kind of results if he did. But for Jake it wasn't hypothetical athleticism, it was demonstrated athleticism.
I don't agree that it's primarily racism that caused Jake to get so much more attention. It was the fact he was a state champion in HS which allowed him to have more hype coming in and the fact his freshman year was so damn productive (as a runner).
IS had neither of those things to create hype.
He's definitely under appreciated. And Jake's definitely overrated. But there were reasons for both without having to play the race card.
As far as comparing careers, Stanback's numbers are not going to match Lockner's. We? know that. But ...
He ended up ranked in numerous school career and single-season statistical categories: second in career passing yards per completion with 14.38; third in career rushing yards by a quarterback with 794; fourth in career yards of total offense per game with 6.16; sixth in career passing yards per attempt with 7.40; sixth in career rushing attempts by a quarterback with 234; tenth in career total offense with 4,662 yards; eleventh in career passing with 3,868 yards; eleventh in career attempts with 523; 12th in career completions with 269; 14th in career touchdown passes with 22.
despite only playing QB full time his junior and senior seasons for a then-retarded program. While he was waiting his turn, he was playing WR, not preparing to be a QB.
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At Hussy (lol) Stadium. Race and I were there.dnc said:
And still, if not for that snapped ankle at Oregon State he might have left a legacy here.chuck said:
You and I represent most of his fan club. The fucking guy was surrounded by 2* talent (not Chambers though he could've been great), back to back 1* coaching staffs, and a fucking retarded fan base. That staff had no idea how to use him and never really wanted to use him in the first place.creepycoug said:
Dude, count the yards. That's 75 yds. in the air, and he caught it high. That thing was going to land 2 yds. in the endzone.chuck said:backthepack said:
That’s the greatest throw I have ever seen...Gladstone said:
Amazing to think Georgia lost this game.https://youtu.be/YfJWCBboCYc
Yes, IS could chuck it.
And run the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds.
And was drafted by MLB even though he declined to play besball at UW.
Please name someone else you know who has all three of those to the degree Stanback did.
Kid was wasted here, and I'll keep arguing this for the rest of my life - vastly underappreciated. A reasonable debate can be made that IS is the best pure athlete to ever suit up for Washington. And a full 80% of the fan base doesn't even remember him.
No, I don't know him in real life. But thanks for getting me started on this again.
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Was that a ranked Oregon State team?
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Isaiah didn’t have much wiggle at all. Straight line speed. He started too far behind by playing for Garfield to ever master the nuances of playing QB. Not to mention, he wasn’t very accurate.dnc said:
I mean Jake ran 172 times for damn near 6 yards a carry and 13 TDs. As a freshman.creepycoug said:
It's a shame. He's in the legitimate 'freak' athlete category, a term that gets thrown around much too loosely. I honestly am sitting here and cannot think of another player from any team that had that combination of arm strength and speed. I understand from people who watched him play at Garfield that his throws from the outfield to home plate were flatly ridiculous. His throws would catch kids tagging up from 3rd 3 and 4 strides away from the plate ... like "no fucking chance buddy" throws. Dave Parker throws from a kid who was a legitimate Pac 10 sprinter. Who could also play QB - small detail.chuck said:
You and I represent most of his fan club. The fucking guy was surrounded by 2* talent (not Chambers though he could've been great), back to back 1* coaching staffs, and a fucking retarded fan base. That staff had no idea how to use him and never really wanted to use him in the first place.creepycoug said:
Dude, count the yards. That's 75 yds. in the air, and he caught it high. That thing was going to land 2 yds. in the endzone.chuck said:backthepack said:
That’s the greatest throw I have ever seen...Gladstone said:
Amazing to think Georgia lost this game.https://youtu.be/YfJWCBboCYc
Yes, IS could chuck it.
And run the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds.
And was drafted by MLB even though he declined to play besball at UW.
Please name someone else you know who has all three of those to the degree Stanback did.
Kid was wasted here, and I'll keep arguing this for the rest of my life - vastly underappreciated. A reasonable debate can be made that IS is the best pure athlete to ever suit up for Washington. And a full 80% of the fan base doesn't even remember him.
No, I don't know him in real life. But thanks for getting me started on this again.
What bothered me the most was how much we? slobbered over Jake Lockner on the basis of his overall athleticism ... the very same platform that IS presented. I could see if you have a bias for accurate pocket guys in the tradition of Pelluer and Chandler ... but if you love Jack Lockner you ought to be in our fan club. People only hypothesized that Lockner could have been a safety or running back ... Stanback had to actually reinvent himself as a receiver in the NFL - and he actually did it.
Isaiah never did anything close to that.
Obviously he never got to run the spread option and maybe he could have had those kind of results if he did. But for Jake it wasn't hypothetical athleticism, it was demonstrated athleticism.
I don't agree that it's primarily racism that caused Jake to get so much more attention. It was the fact he was a state champion in HS which allowed him to have more hype coming in and the fact his freshman year was so damn productive (as a runner).
IS had neither of those things to create hype.
He's definitely under appreciated. And Jake's definitely overrated. But there were reasons for both without having to play the race card.
Obviously he would have been better playing for a good program, but I don’t think he would have been a star anywhere. -
Being on Dawgman at that time there was a lot of Stanback hate and as usual it was to prop up Ty and due to racism. The doogs all said how Ty was going to recruit Black talent and all he did was turn the team white and shitty
No way Lockner gets the pub he got if he was Black. He sucked
Creepy is right about IS. Fucking waste -
Was Jack Lockner? I know the big boy out pattern was a throw he struggled with as but one example.RoadDawg55 said:
Isaiah didn’t have much wiggle at all. Straight line speed. He started too far behind by playing for Garfield to ever master the nuances of playing QB. Not to mention, he wasn’t very accurate.dnc said:
I mean Jake ran 172 times for damn near 6 yards a carry and 13 TDs. As a freshman.creepycoug said:
It's a shame. He's in the legitimate 'freak' athlete category, a term that gets thrown around much too loosely. I honestly am sitting here and cannot think of another player from any team that had that combination of arm strength and speed. I understand from people who watched him play at Garfield that his throws from the outfield to home plate were flatly ridiculous. His throws would catch kids tagging up from 3rd 3 and 4 strides away from the plate ... like "no fucking chance buddy" throws. Dave Parker throws from a kid who was a legitimate Pac 10 sprinter. Who could also play QB - small detail.chuck said:
You and I represent most of his fan club. The fucking guy was surrounded by 2* talent (not Chambers though he could've been great), back to back 1* coaching staffs, and a fucking retarded fan base. That staff had no idea how to use him and never really wanted to use him in the first place.creepycoug said:
Dude, count the yards. That's 75 yds. in the air, and he caught it high. That thing was going to land 2 yds. in the endzone.chuck said:backthepack said:
That’s the greatest throw I have ever seen...Gladstone said:
Amazing to think Georgia lost this game.https://youtu.be/YfJWCBboCYc
Yes, IS could chuck it.
And run the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds.
And was drafted by MLB even though he declined to play besball at UW.
Please name someone else you know who has all three of those to the degree Stanback did.
Kid was wasted here, and I'll keep arguing this for the rest of my life - vastly underappreciated. A reasonable debate can be made that IS is the best pure athlete to ever suit up for Washington. And a full 80% of the fan base doesn't even remember him.
No, I don't know him in real life. But thanks for getting me started on this again.
What bothered me the most was how much we? slobbered over Jake Lockner on the basis of his overall athleticism ... the very same platform that IS presented. I could see if you have a bias for accurate pocket guys in the tradition of Pelluer and Chandler ... but if you love Jack Lockner you ought to be in our fan club. People only hypothesized that Lockner could have been a safety or running back ... Stanback had to actually reinvent himself as a receiver in the NFL - and he actually did it.
Isaiah never did anything close to that.
Obviously he never got to run the spread option and maybe he could have had those kind of results if he did. But for Jake it wasn't hypothetical athleticism, it was demonstrated athleticism.
I don't agree that it's primarily racism that caused Jake to get so much more attention. It was the fact he was a state champion in HS which allowed him to have more hype coming in and the fact his freshman year was so damn productive (as a runner).
IS had neither of those things to create hype.
He's definitely under appreciated. And Jake's definitely overrated. But there were reasons for both without having to play the race card.
Obviously he would have been better playing for a good program, but I don’t think he would have been a star anywhere.
Also, I don't recall Stanback having accuracy issues. Is that a real thing or urban legend? -
It's a little of both. He wasn't statistically accurate QB. His throwing accuracy was fine though. He didn't miss open guys. He had to throw the ball away a ton and most of them were not throwaways that many fans would recognize. They werr auto throw, zero read, out patterns and hitches to hopelessly blanketed receivers. The offense was such a train wreck then. IS was actually good at protecting the ball, and throwing balls where the defense couldn't reach them frequently meant the receivers couldn't either.creepycoug said:
Was Jack Lockner? I know the big boy out pattern was a throw he struggled with as but one example.RoadDawg55 said:
Isaiah didn’t have much wiggle at all. Straight line speed. He started too far behind by playing for Garfield to ever master the nuances of playing QB. Not to mention, he wasn’t very accurate.dnc said:
I mean Jake ran 172 times for damn near 6 yards a carry and 13 TDs. As a freshman.creepycoug said:
It's a shame. He's in the legitimate 'freak' athlete category, a term that gets thrown around much too loosely. I honestly am sitting here and cannot think of another player from any team that had that combination of arm strength and speed. I understand from people who watched him play at Garfield that his throws from the outfield to home plate were flatly ridiculous. His throws would catch kids tagging up from 3rd 3 and 4 strides away from the plate ... like "no fucking chance buddy" throws. Dave Parker throws from a kid who was a legitimate Pac 10 sprinter. Who could also play QB - small detail.chuck said:
You and I represent most of his fan club. The fucking guy was surrounded by 2* talent (not Chambers though he could've been great), back to back 1* coaching staffs, and a fucking retarded fan base. That staff had no idea how to use him and never really wanted to use him in the first place.creepycoug said:
Dude, count the yards. That's 75 yds. in the air, and he caught it high. That thing was going to land 2 yds. in the endzone.chuck said:backthepack said:
That’s the greatest throw I have ever seen...Gladstone said:
Amazing to think Georgia lost this game.https://youtu.be/YfJWCBboCYc
Yes, IS could chuck it.
And run the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds.
And was drafted by MLB even though he declined to play besball at UW.
Please name someone else you know who has all three of those to the degree Stanback did.
Kid was wasted here, and I'll keep arguing this for the rest of my life - vastly underappreciated. A reasonable debate can be made that IS is the best pure athlete to ever suit up for Washington. And a full 80% of the fan base doesn't even remember him.
No, I don't know him in real life. But thanks for getting me started on this again.
What bothered me the most was how much we? slobbered over Jake Lockner on the basis of his overall athleticism ... the very same platform that IS presented. I could see if you have a bias for accurate pocket guys in the tradition of Pelluer and Chandler ... but if you love Jack Lockner you ought to be in our fan club. People only hypothesized that Lockner could have been a safety or running back ... Stanback had to actually reinvent himself as a receiver in the NFL - and he actually did it.
Isaiah never did anything close to that.
Obviously he never got to run the spread option and maybe he could have had those kind of results if he did. But for Jake it wasn't hypothetical athleticism, it was demonstrated athleticism.
I don't agree that it's primarily racism that caused Jake to get so much more attention. It was the fact he was a state champion in HS which allowed him to have more hype coming in and the fact his freshman year was so damn productive (as a runner).
IS had neither of those things to create hype.
He's definitely under appreciated. And Jake's definitely overrated. But there were reasons for both without having to play the race card.
Obviously he would have been better playing for a good program, but I don’t think he would have been a star anywhere.
Also, I don't recall Stanback having accuracy issues. Is that a real thing or urban legend? -
Nice pic. Which one is your starting QB this year?Gladstone said:
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(Not pictured)oregonblitzkrieg said:
Nice pic. Which one is your starting QB this year?Gladstone said:
