The left's destruction of history
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Sounds like you are well read Stong Ballz, just like me.StrongArmCobra said:
He's a retard citing bullshit fake news. She lived in his house. She was never in "slave quarters". She was his house slave and servant since she was a small child. She was his original wife's younger half sister. His wife's father raped one of his slaves and Sally Hemings was a mixed child born from that rape. She wasn't a regular field slave. She lived a more privileged life as an indoor servant because she was light skinned and related to his wife. Jefferson watched her grow up in his house and then sent her to France with his daughter to be her servant there when she was 14 and then brought her back when she was 16 under the agreement that she would be his new wife and she and any children they had together would be freed when he died and they were.creepycoug said:
1. There's also no account of his having taken a shit on a Tuesday. But I'm sure that at some point in his life, he did take a shit on a Tuesday.Sledog said:
Nothing like posting one of the articles mentioned in the article I posted as being false and with information on the children being sired by Jefferson being false as proven by DNA testing. False id false.StrongArmCobra said:I already fucking did:
https://monticello.org/sallyhemings/
This long ass article has all the fucking info plus primary sources from that time who knew both Jefferson and Sally including Sally's children. It also comes from the official website of his estate as a historical site and tourist attraction.
It was written in newspapers by journalists at the time that he had taken a slave as his concubine. It wasn't like she was some field slave. She was mixed and light skinned and he kept her in his house as a servant for himself and his white kids that he had with his original wife. He inherited her from his wife when she was a toddler. She was rumored to be his wife's half sister, born of rape. He sent her to France to be his daughter's servant there when she was 14. He then went to France and brought her back when she was 16 and that was when she got pregnant with her first child and the child didn't live to adulthood. Again, she lived in his house the rest of the time she was giving birth to children. She was mixed and her children were documented as white so they were only a quarter black and passed for white so none of the slaves on his plantation were impregnating her. When Jefferson died, Sally and her children were set free. His other slaves weren't. Why would he agree to put that in his will if she wasn't his pseudo-wife and his children with her HIS children?
So again, the EVIDENCE says, either he was impregnating her or he was allowing his male relatives to come to his house to rape her and they impregnated her. With the historical provenance, it's way more likely and fucking obvious he was the one impregnating her.
How the fuck does someone ignore the entire historical community and their findings and evidence and reasoning and take the word of some dumb blow hard cunt like Ann Coulter who has zero credibility and take that bullshit as truth?
"The charge was first leveled in 1802 by a muckraking, racist, alcoholic journalist, James Callender, who had served prison time for his particular brand of journalism. He had tried to blackmail Jefferson into appointing him postmaster at Richmond. When that failed, Callender retaliated by publicly accusing Jefferson of fathering the first-born son of Sally Hemings — or, as the charming Callender described her, “a slut as common as the pavement.”
"No serious historian ever believed Callender’s defamation — not Dumas Malone, Merrill Peterson, Douglass Adair or John Chester Miller. Not one. Their reasoning was that there was absolutely no evidence to support the theory and plenty to contradict it."
"In response to DNA proof that only one of Hemings’ children was related to any Jefferson male — and her firstborn son was definitely NOT fathered by any Jefferson — the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, the Monticello Association and the National Genealogical Society promptly announced their official positions: Thomas Jefferson fathered all six of Hemings’ children! Guided tours of Monticello today include the provably false information that Jefferson fathered all of Hemings’ children."
Eston was born in 1808, when Thomas Jefferson was 64 years old and in his second term as president. His brother Randolph was 52, and Randolph’s five sons were 17 to 24 years old. All of them were frequent visitors at Monticello.
While Jefferson was busy entertaining international visitors in the main house, Randolph would generally retire to the slave quarters to dance and fiddle. One slave, Isaac Granger Jefferson, described Randolph in his dictated memoirs thus: “Old Master’s brother, Mass Randall, was a mighty simple man: used to come out among black people, play the fiddle and dance half the night.”
There is not a single account of Thomas Jefferson frequenting slave quarters. Nor did Jefferson take any interest in Hemings’ children. Randolph did, teaching all of Hemings’ sons to play the fiddle.
Nice work!
2. Maybe his interest was in fucking her and not in raising her children.
The thing I've noticed about you over time is that you really don't have a good facility for reasoning. You start with the answer you want work your backwards from there, and I'd add not cleverly.
These threads really do make you look like a dumb fuck. And it only entrenches my concern about who gets to be a cop.
Was there some kind of head injury involved with your retirement? Unless this is a J whoosh act, this entire thread really does not do you any favors Sleddy. Not at all.
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Testing the waters.
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Your forgot Mod vested with immense power.creepycoug said:
Listen up you yella bellied Hollywood-lovin' rowboat seattle liberal - those unfounded suspicions will taint the view our children have of the founding fathers and lives could be effected!!YellowSnow said:
Jefferson' wife died in 1782 and he was alive for another 44 years. He never remarried. It was commonplace at the time for slave owners to sleep with slaves. The odds that Jefferson did not fornicate with his slaves are remote at best.Sledog said:
Nothing like posting one of the articles mentioned in the article I posted as being false and with information on the children being sired by Jefferson being false as proven by DNA testing. False id false.StrongArmCobra said:I already fucking did:
https://monticello.org/sallyhemings/
This long ass article has all the fucking info plus primary sources from that time who knew both Jefferson and Sally including Sally's children. It also comes from the official website of his estate as a historical site and tourist attraction.
It was written in newspapers by journalists at the time that he had taken a slave as his concubine. It wasn't like she was some field slave. She was mixed and light skinned and he kept her in his house as a servant for himself and his white kids that he had with his original wife. He inherited her from his wife when she was a toddler. She was rumored to be his wife's half sister, born of rape. He sent her to France to be his daughter's servant there when she was 14. He then went to France and brought her back when she was 16 and that was when she got pregnant with her first child and the child didn't live to adulthood. Again, she lived in his house the rest of the time she was giving birth to children. She was mixed and her children were documented as white so they were only a quarter black and passed for white so none of the slaves on his plantation were impregnating her. When Jefferson died, Sally and her children were set free. His other slaves weren't. Why would he agree to put that in his will if she wasn't his pseudo-wife and his children with her HIS children?
So again, the EVIDENCE says, either he was impregnating her or he was allowing his male relatives to come to his house to rape her and they impregnated her. With the historical provenance, it's way more likely and fucking obvious he was the one impregnating her.
How the fuck does someone ignore the entire historical community and their findings and evidence and reasoning and take the word of some dumb blow hard cunt like Ann Coulter who has zero credibility and take that bullshit as truth?
"The charge was first leveled in 1802 by a muckraking, racist, alcoholic journalist, James Callender, who had served prison time for his particular brand of journalism. He had tried to blackmail Jefferson into appointing him postmaster at Richmond. When that failed, Callender retaliated by publicly accusing Jefferson of fathering the first-born son of Sally Hemings — or, as the charming Callender described her, “a slut as common as the pavement.”
"No serious historian ever believed Callender’s defamation — not Dumas Malone, Merrill Peterson, Douglass Adair or John Chester Miller. Not one. Their reasoning was that there was absolutely no evidence to support the theory and plenty to contradict it."
"In response to DNA proof that only one of Hemings’ children was related to any Jefferson male — and her firstborn son was definitely NOT fathered by any Jefferson — the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, the Monticello Association and the National Genealogical Society promptly announced their official positions: Thomas Jefferson fathered all six of Hemings’ children! Guided tours of Monticello today include the provably false information that Jefferson fathered all of Hemings’ children."
Eston was born in 1808, when Thomas Jefferson was 64 years old and in his second term as president. His brother Randolph was 52, and Randolph’s five sons were 17 to 24 years old. All of them were frequent visitors at Monticello.
While Jefferson was busy entertaining international visitors in the main house, Randolph would generally retire to the slave quarters to dance and fiddle. One slave, Isaac Granger Jefferson, described Randolph in his dictated memoirs thus: “Old Master’s brother, Mass Randall, was a mighty simple man: used to come out among black people, play the fiddle and dance half the night.”
There is not a single account of Thomas Jefferson frequenting slave quarters. Nor did Jefferson take any interest in Hemings’ children. Randolph did, teaching all of Hemings’ sons to play the fiddle.
Nice work!
Stop it right now.
Just imagine! A Christian slave owner fornicating with a black slave. The very idea is preposterous!
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I forgot Mod invested with immense power.YellowSnow said:
Your forgot Mod vested with immense power.creepycoug said:
Listen up you yella bellied Hollywood-lovin' rowboat seattle liberal - those unfounded suspicions will taint the view our children have of the founding fathers and lives could be effected!!YellowSnow said:
Jefferson' wife died in 1782 and he was alive for another 44 years. He never remarried. It was commonplace at the time for slave owners to sleep with slaves. The odds that Jefferson did not fornicate with his slaves are remote at best.Sledog said:
Nothing like posting one of the articles mentioned in the article I posted as being false and with information on the children being sired by Jefferson being false as proven by DNA testing. False id false.StrongArmCobra said:I already fucking did:
https://monticello.org/sallyhemings/
This long ass article has all the fucking info plus primary sources from that time who knew both Jefferson and Sally including Sally's children. It also comes from the official website of his estate as a historical site and tourist attraction.
It was written in newspapers by journalists at the time that he had taken a slave as his concubine. It wasn't like she was some field slave. She was mixed and light skinned and he kept her in his house as a servant for himself and his white kids that he had with his original wife. He inherited her from his wife when she was a toddler. She was rumored to be his wife's half sister, born of rape. He sent her to France to be his daughter's servant there when she was 14. He then went to France and brought her back when she was 16 and that was when she got pregnant with her first child and the child didn't live to adulthood. Again, she lived in his house the rest of the time she was giving birth to children. She was mixed and her children were documented as white so they were only a quarter black and passed for white so none of the slaves on his plantation were impregnating her. When Jefferson died, Sally and her children were set free. His other slaves weren't. Why would he agree to put that in his will if she wasn't his pseudo-wife and his children with her HIS children?
So again, the EVIDENCE says, either he was impregnating her or he was allowing his male relatives to come to his house to rape her and they impregnated her. With the historical provenance, it's way more likely and fucking obvious he was the one impregnating her.
How the fuck does someone ignore the entire historical community and their findings and evidence and reasoning and take the word of some dumb blow hard cunt like Ann Coulter who has zero credibility and take that bullshit as truth?
"The charge was first leveled in 1802 by a muckraking, racist, alcoholic journalist, James Callender, who had served prison time for his particular brand of journalism. He had tried to blackmail Jefferson into appointing him postmaster at Richmond. When that failed, Callender retaliated by publicly accusing Jefferson of fathering the first-born son of Sally Hemings — or, as the charming Callender described her, “a slut as common as the pavement.”
"No serious historian ever believed Callender’s defamation — not Dumas Malone, Merrill Peterson, Douglass Adair or John Chester Miller. Not one. Their reasoning was that there was absolutely no evidence to support the theory and plenty to contradict it."
"In response to DNA proof that only one of Hemings’ children was related to any Jefferson male — and her firstborn son was definitely NOT fathered by any Jefferson — the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, the Monticello Association and the National Genealogical Society promptly announced their official positions: Thomas Jefferson fathered all six of Hemings’ children! Guided tours of Monticello today include the provably false information that Jefferson fathered all of Hemings’ children."
Eston was born in 1808, when Thomas Jefferson was 64 years old and in his second term as president. His brother Randolph was 52, and Randolph’s five sons were 17 to 24 years old. All of them were frequent visitors at Monticello.
While Jefferson was busy entertaining international visitors in the main house, Randolph would generally retire to the slave quarters to dance and fiddle. One slave, Isaac Granger Jefferson, described Randolph in his dictated memoirs thus: “Old Master’s brother, Mass Randall, was a mighty simple man: used to come out among black people, play the fiddle and dance half the night.”
There is not a single account of Thomas Jefferson frequenting slave quarters. Nor did Jefferson take any interest in Hemings’ children. Randolph did, teaching all of Hemings’ sons to play the fiddle.
Nice work!
Stop it right now.
Just imagine! A Christian slave owner fornicating with a black slave. The very idea is preposterous! -
There are no accounts of him doing anything remotely like what is claimed. Yet it's put out as fact. Slander is never nice. You far flung looney lefties are funny.
The article you sourced doesn't even list an author.
Keep up that destruction comrades. Please man up and get that revolution going. America awaits it. Those black clothes and bandannas mom bought you are going to waste. -
Dumb and scared little girl gonna be dumb and scared.Sledog said:There are no accounts of him doing anything remotely like what is claimed. Yet it's put out as fact. Slander is never nice. You far flung looney lefties are funny.
The article you sourced doesn't even list an author.
Keep up that destruction comrades. Please man up and get that revolution going. America awaits it. Those black clothes and bandannas mom bought you are going to waste. -
Are Sledog and Gaybob having a whiny bitch contest?
If so, I'm calling it a tie. Serious effort put forth by both of them, for sure. -
Articles put out by a government entity such as a government website for a historical site don't need an author.Sledog said:There are no accounts of him doing anything remotely like what is claimed. Yet it's put out as fact. Slander is never nice. You far flung looney lefties are funny.
The article you sourced doesn't even list an author.
Keep up that destruction comrades. Please man up and get that revolution going. America awaits it. Those black clothes and bandannas mom bought you are going to waste. -
Yet they attribute children to him proven wrong by DNA. Glad you think the governmnet is always right. Now you are required to believe everything Trump puts out. Nice move!StrongArmCobra said:
Articles put out by a government entity such as a government website for a historical site don't need an author.Sledog said:There are no accounts of him doing anything remotely like what is claimed. Yet it's put out as fact. Slander is never nice. You far flung looney lefties are funny.
The article you sourced doesn't even list an author.
Keep up that destruction comrades. Please man up and get that revolution going. America awaits it. Those black clothes and bandannas mom bought you are going to waste.
Glad you guys are now for Trump and his policies. -
JFC you have the intellect of a small child.Sledog said:
Yet they attribute children to him proven wrong by DNA. Glad you think the governmnet is always right. Now you are required to believe everything Trump puts out. Nice move!StrongArmCobra said:
Articles put out by a government entity such as a government website for a historical site don't need an author.Sledog said:There are no accounts of him doing anything remotely like what is claimed. Yet it's put out as fact. Slander is never nice. You far flung looney lefties are funny.
The article you sourced doesn't even list an author.
Keep up that destruction comrades. Please man up and get that revolution going. America awaits it. Those black clothes and bandannas mom bought you are going to waste.
Glad you guys are now for Trump and his policies. -
DNA don't lie counsuello.creepycoug said:
JFC you have the intellect of a small child.Sledog said:
Yet they attribute children to him proven wrong by DNA. Glad you think the governmnet is always right. Now you are required to believe everything Trump puts out. Nice move!StrongArmCobra said:
Articles put out by a government entity such as a government website for a historical site don't need an author.Sledog said:There are no accounts of him doing anything remotely like what is claimed. Yet it's put out as fact. Slander is never nice. You far flung looney lefties are funny.
The article you sourced doesn't even list an author.
Keep up that destruction comrades. Please man up and get that revolution going. America awaits it. Those black clothes and bandannas mom bought you are going to waste.
Glad you guys are now for Trump and his policies.
