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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,779


    this is still the greatest nation on earth

    Again!

    This is still the greatest nation on earth AGAIN!
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    TJ thought slavery was corrupting for slave and master. In other words, “perfectly normal”.
    Slavery was around for far longer than we have been slave free and is still ongoing. Those wouldn't hurt a fly muslims like it a lot among others. Odd that our Christian nation is slave free isn't it?
    Say what you mean, please.
    @Sledog: I think HHuskyIsRacist is used to reading picture books. Might include some remedial gifs next time.
    If Sled’s point is clear to you, whatthefuck was his point?
    That you can't read.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,779

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    TJ thought slavery was corrupting for slave and master. In other words, “perfectly normal”.
    Slavery was around for far longer than we have been slave free and is still ongoing. Those wouldn't hurt a fly muslims like it a lot among others. Odd that our Christian nation is slave free isn't it?
    Say what you mean, please.
    @Sledog: I think HHuskyIsRacist is used to reading picture books. Might include some remedial gifs next time.
    If Sled’s point is clear to you, whatthefuck was his point?
    That you can't read.
    So you couldn’t figure it out either.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    TJ thought slavery was corrupting for slave and master. In other words, “perfectly normal”.
    Slavery was around for far longer than we have been slave free and is still ongoing. Those wouldn't hurt a fly muslims like it a lot among others. Odd that our Christian nation is slave free isn't it?
    Say what you mean, please.
    @Sledog: I think HHuskyIsRacist is used to reading picture books. Might include some remedial gifs next time.
    If Sled’s point is clear to you, whatthefuck was his point?
    That you can't read.
    So you couldn’t figure it out either.
    That you can't read?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,178 Standard Supporter

    In the Old testament the Jews were the slaves. In the testament that matters today the Roman held slaves. Generally white people from Germany and France

    Jesus said he came to set us all free, slave or non slave

    Paul expanded the lesson to say that if you were a slave when you believed then be the best slave you can be and if you can get your freedom, do so. A slave is a free man in Christ and a free man is a slave to Christ.

    Slave traders were treated as the worst of the worst and made Paul's list of the what we consider major sins like murder.

    But sin is sin which is why we aren't to judge our neighbor. Jeepers, gossip is listed as a sin.

    Of course "religion" is a man made construct and notoriously unreliable. So we had the defense of slavery in America based on pretty shaky old testament stuff and abolition based on New Testament stuff


    We saw a film in grade school showing both the Nazis and the good guys praying to God before a battle. Made you THINK

    There was a consensus among SCIENCE that Blacks were inferior The science was SETTLED. That has as big of an effect as any religion.

    They don't feel like you do, they don't want freedom etc and etc.

    its all FUBAR anyway but this is still the greatest nation on earth. I'll fight anyone that says different

    PREACH!
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,779

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    TJ thought slavery was corrupting for slave and master. In other words, “perfectly normal”.
    Slavery was around for far longer than we have been slave free and is still ongoing. Those wouldn't hurt a fly muslims like it a lot among others. Odd that our Christian nation is slave free isn't it?
    Say what you mean, please.
    @Sledog: I think HHuskyIsRacist is used to reading picture books. Might include some remedial gifs next time.
    If Sled’s point is clear to you, whatthefuck was his point?
    That you can't read.
    So you couldn’t figure it out either.
    That you can't read?
    Don’t be embarrassed. Sled’s inscrutable.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219

    In the Old testament the Jews were the slaves. In the testament that matters today the Roman held slaves. Generally white people from Germany and France

    Jesus said he came to set us all free, slave or non slave

    Paul expanded the lesson to say that if you were a slave when you believed then be the best slave you can be and if you can get your freedom, do so. A slave is a free man in Christ and a free man is a slave to Christ.

    Slave traders were treated as the worst of the worst and made Paul's list of the what we consider major sins like murder.

    But sin is sin which is why we aren't to judge our neighbor. Jeepers, gossip is listed as a sin.

    Of course "religion" is a man made construct and notoriously unreliable. So we had the defense of slavery in America based on pretty shaky old testament stuff and abolition based on New Testament stuff


    We saw a film in grade school showing both the Nazis and the good guys praying to God before a battle. Made you THINK

    There was a consensus among SCIENCE that Blacks were inferior The science was SETTLED. That has as big of an effect as any religion.

    They don't feel like you do, they don't want freedom etc and etc.

    its all FUBAR anyway but this is still the greatest nation on earth. I'll fight anyone that says different

    If God is for us, who can ever be against us?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,824 Founders Club

    In the Old testament the Jews were the slaves. In the testament that matters today the Roman held slaves. Generally white people from Germany and France

    Jesus said he came to set us all free, slave or non slave

    Paul expanded the lesson to say that if you were a slave when you believed then be the best slave you can be and if you can get your freedom, do so. A slave is a free man in Christ and a free man is a slave to Christ.

    Slave traders were treated as the worst of the worst and made Paul's list of the what we consider major sins like murder.

    But sin is sin which is why we aren't to judge our neighbor. Jeepers, gossip is listed as a sin.

    Of course "religion" is a man made construct and notoriously unreliable. So we had the defense of slavery in America based on pretty shaky old testament stuff and abolition based on New Testament stuff


    We saw a film in grade school showing both the Nazis and the good guys praying to God before a battle. Made you THINK

    There was a consensus among SCIENCE that Blacks were inferior The science was SETTLED. That has as big of an effect as any religion.

    They don't feel like you do, they don't want freedom etc and etc.

    its all FUBAR anyway but this is still the greatest nation on earth. I'll fight anyone that says different

    If God is for us, who can ever be against us?
    The ducks
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219

    In the Old testament the Jews were the slaves. In the testament that matters today the Roman held slaves. Generally white people from Germany and France

    Jesus said he came to set us all free, slave or non slave

    Paul expanded the lesson to say that if you were a slave when you believed then be the best slave you can be and if you can get your freedom, do so. A slave is a free man in Christ and a free man is a slave to Christ.

    Slave traders were treated as the worst of the worst and made Paul's list of the what we consider major sins like murder.

    But sin is sin which is why we aren't to judge our neighbor. Jeepers, gossip is listed as a sin.

    Of course "religion" is a man made construct and notoriously unreliable. So we had the defense of slavery in America based on pretty shaky old testament stuff and abolition based on New Testament stuff


    We saw a film in grade school showing both the Nazis and the good guys praying to God before a battle. Made you THINK

    There was a consensus among SCIENCE that Blacks were inferior The science was SETTLED. That has as big of an effect as any religion.

    They don't feel like you do, they don't want freedom etc and etc.

    its all FUBAR anyway but this is still the greatest nation on earth. I'll fight anyone that says different

    If God is for us, who can ever be against us?
    The ducks
    Always, the Ducks.

    @StrongArmCobra
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,860 Standard Supporter
    A lot of this comes up over the Kapertwit/Nike fiasco. That flag was the first of the nation that freed it's slaves. He's bitching about slavery and a nation that was just founded and overthrew the previous government that was a monarchy and the king owned everything and everyone. I'd say America is better off and is the best country in the world. Whoever thinks somewhere else is better is free to move there if they'll have you.

    Funny how our socialist/commie contingent hasn't left. But then those kind of countries never have a line of people wanting in. Ever.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,860 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.
    Has nothing to do with me taking issue or not. I don't think slavery is right. Never have never will, It was abolished and that took time and thousands of deaths. Since we are talking moral equivalency over time why the fuck are you a democrat?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.
    Has nothing to do with me taking issue or not. I don't think slavery is right. Never have never will, It was abolished and that took time and thousands of deaths. Since we are talking moral equivalency over time why the fuck are you a democrat?
    Shut up.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,860 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.
    Has nothing to do with me taking issue or not. I don't think slavery is right. Never have never will, It was abolished and that took time and thousands of deaths. Since we are talking moral equivalency over time why the fuck are you a democrat?
    Shut up.
    Oops! Your logic bit your ass?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.
    Has nothing to do with me taking issue or not. I don't think slavery is right. Never have never will, It was abolished and that took time and thousands of deaths. Since we are talking moral equivalency over time why the fuck are you a democrat?
    Shut up.
    Oops! Your logic bit your ass?
    No. You can't follow a thread discussion to save your life.

    It's embarrassing and you've become boring.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,860 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.
    Has nothing to do with me taking issue or not. I don't think slavery is right. Never have never will, It was abolished and that took time and thousands of deaths. Since we are talking moral equivalency over time why the fuck are you a democrat?
    Shut up.
    Oops! Your logic bit your ass?
    No. You can't follow a thread discussion to save your life.

    It's embarrassing and you've become boring.
    Not as boring in your inability to admit when you fucked up.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Coug is your standard leftwing religious bigot who has a wholly irrational fear of the religious right and what he feels they might do to him. When asked to cite some examples he cited his inability to get an abortion in Georgia.

    Meanwhile the religious left wants to take over nearly every aspect of our economy, and re-order our society and is busy forcing their values down everyone's throats every fucking day. But the Religious Right might do something thing!!!!

    I'm just glad those founding religious right nuts made a great country to live in! If we can just keep the cloaked commie/socialist agenda away we might get to keep it!
    Bob ... is this Sledog guy tonguing your ass?
    Just stating what I believe. Don't you?
    I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and IDRGAF because even with effort you never do seem to make your way to a thought-provoking point.

    But if you say your religion does not take issue with slavery, and this religion means something to you, then you are what you are.
    I see you don't answer. I am what I am. That's true, You are what you are. But you like to obfuscate exactly what that might be at times. Slavery was the way of the world until recent times. My point is, in this instance, that denigrating people to whom it was perfectly normal and as everyday as sunshine as well as their religious beliefs simply to push a a leftist agenda is bullshit. The moral standard has changed and that's a good thing. Keep rallying for the party of slavery, it's your right. Or should I say left?
    Fuck off Sled. You're the guy who cries about keeping things simple. This is simple, so let it be simple.

    1. Religious Tenets are not relative to culture. That's the entire point about religion. What's right and what's wrong are objective truths that don't bend with time. That is, the basic things that a given religion stands for are unaffected by the current rage. The opposite of humanism.

    2. Any rational interpretation of basic Christian values would proffer that using another human being as if it they were a yard tool, and doing to and with that person whatever you will, is morally wrong.

    3. If that's the case, it doesn't matter what the culture dejour had to say about it. If it's wrong today, it was wrong then. That's what we call logical consistency.

    Clear enough?

    You don't need to lecture me on cultural and moral relativism. I'm the relativist as between us. I find it curious that in our miles of travel together, you are the one who always cited the objective moral code to defend or prosecute a point. And now, because your sensibilities are bent as you engage in this ridiculous panic over whether people will see the founding fathers as fallible human beings, you want to invoke relativism to support the institution of slavery.

    I mean, if I wanted to show you in a bad light as a person, I could not have scripted this any better.

    I get it. You don't take issue with slave owners 200 years ago, but you also believe in a timeless higher power that defines good and bad. It's your job to reconcile those things, not mine.
    Has nothing to do with me taking issue or not. I don't think slavery is right. Never have never will, It was abolished and that took time and thousands of deaths. Since we are talking moral equivalency over time why the fuck are you a democrat?
    Shut up.
    Oops! Your logic bit your ass?
    No. You can't follow a thread discussion to save your life.

    It's embarrassing and you've become boring.
    Not as boring in your inability to admit when you fucked up.
    JFC. You walked yourself into a box 3 pages ago but are either whooshing here or are too FS to understand it.

    Either way, you're boring. Fuck off.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    I don't know how anybody expects to be taken seriously citing articles from sources like Breitbart and Fox News. Even worse, an article written by Ann Coulter. You know that's fake news and propaganda right?

    Her first point alone about Thomas Jefferson is laughable. Jefferson was a slave owner and owned dozens of slaves over his lifetime. That's a fact. It's documented that he owned slaves and there are slave artifacts that have been found on his land. And he did father children with one of his slaves. That has been confirmed by DNA testing black descendants of Jefferson and comparing their DNA to white descendants of Jefferson. It's so accepted that Jefferson's white descendants and black descendants have gotten together for family reunions and shit. He kept the Sally slave locked up in his house in a private room where he would rape her whenever he pleased. Perhaps it seemed consensual to him but a slave is not capable of consent so it was rape.

    Look, a lot of people who did good things for America were slave owners. That was the reality of the times back then. If you were a wealthy and influential person, chances are you owned slaves unless you were an abolitionist. People don't get to white wash that shit from history because they don't like it. Historical figures are nuanced human beings. Some of them did good things in their public lives while doing devious and hypocritical things in their personal lives because humans are human.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,860 Standard Supporter

    I don't know how anybody expects to be taken seriously citing articles from sources like Breitbart and Fox News. Even worse, an article written by Ann Coulter. You know that's fake news and propaganda right?

    Her first point alone about Thomas Jefferson is laughable. Jefferson was a slave owner and owned dozens of slaves over his lifetime. That's a fact. It's documented that he owned slaves and there are slave artifacts that have been found on his land. And he did father children with one of his slaves. That has been confirmed by DNA testing black descendants of Jefferson and comparing their DNA to white descendants of Jefferson. It's so accepted that Jefferson's white descendants and black descendants have gotten together for family reunions and shit. He kept the Sally slave locked up in his house in a private room where he would rape her whenever he pleased. Perhaps it seemed consensual to him but a slave is not capable of consent so it was rape.

    Look, a lot of people who did good things for America were slave owners. That was the reality of the times back then. If you were a wealthy and influential person, chances are you owned slaves unless you were an abolitionist. People don't get to white wash that shit from history because they don't like it. Historical figures are nuanced human beings. Some of them did good things in their public lives while doing devious and hypocritical things in their personal lives because humans are human.

    Obviously you didn't read the DNA tests.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    Sledog said:

    I don't know how anybody expects to be taken seriously citing articles from sources like Breitbart and Fox News. Even worse, an article written by Ann Coulter. You know that's fake news and propaganda right?

    Her first point alone about Thomas Jefferson is laughable. Jefferson was a slave owner and owned dozens of slaves over his lifetime. That's a fact. It's documented that he owned slaves and there are slave artifacts that have been found on his land. And he did father children with one of his slaves. That has been confirmed by DNA testing black descendants of Jefferson and comparing their DNA to white descendants of Jefferson. It's so accepted that Jefferson's white descendants and black descendants have gotten together for family reunions and shit. He kept the Sally slave locked up in his house in a private room where he would rape her whenever he pleased. Perhaps it seemed consensual to him but a slave is not capable of consent so it was rape.

    Look, a lot of people who did good things for America were slave owners. That was the reality of the times back then. If you were a wealthy and influential person, chances are you owned slaves unless you were an abolitionist. People don't get to white wash that shit from history because they don't like it. Historical figures are nuanced human beings. Some of them did good things in their public lives while doing devious and hypocritical things in their personal lives because humans are human.

    Obviously you didn't read the DNA tests.
    Was it another Breitbart article "disproving" the DNA tests now? Lol dude just stop. His white wife died and he took a young, teenage slave as his new wife because he was a horny fucker and he father 6 kids with her and 4 survived to adulthood. That's historical fact. There are first-hand sources and quotes from Sally's children who knew Jefferson was their father. It wasn't some big secret back then. Jefferson took Sally out in public with him and traveled to France with her and shit. But she was still his slave, never his wife. Not to mention he owned dozens of other slaves. What are you even arguing here?
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