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  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800


    Sledog said:

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    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    I agree with the Reagan quote but, in this political climate, that’s not considered open borders. There are still controls in place (worker visas, etc).
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    USMChawk said:


    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    I agree with the Reagan quote but, in this political climate, that’s not considered open borders. There are still controls in place (worker visas, etc).
    So you didn’t read the original post?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    Ok, fair point if what you mean that the current polarization makes it seem as though there are people who want zero regulation of who does and doesn't enter. But make no mistake, there is a lot of protectionism and good old fashioned xenophobia (just read Sledog's posts) packed into the "crisis at the border" crowd.

    Like I say when this comes up, of course I'm for legal and regulated immigration. Who could be against it?

    But this focus on legality and paper work and vetting it's a ruse for many. And I tend to agree with Damone - manage the welfare state better (he'd just get rid of it) and the only people who would come here would come to work, and if there was no work they wouldn't come.

    But there's always work in the greatest capitalist economy in the world.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter


    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
    Reagan didn’t mention a number. But read the original post.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    And dismantling the welfare state.

    How do you like them apples?

    This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
    USMChawk said:

    And dismantling the welfare state.

    How do you like them apples?

    This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).
    And if there is no services for them, asylum claims are denied, and there is no job waiting, what’s the issue? And the welfare state is dismantled. Why do you ignore that part?

    Come here and work or fuck off. There is always room for actual refugees...Actual refugees. Not made up redefinition of the word.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    USMChawk said:

    And dismantling the welfare state.

    How do you like them apples?

    This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).
    And if there is no services for them, asylum claims are denied, and there is no job waiting, what’s the issue?
    ...‘asylum claims are denied’... If you have those controls in place it’s not 2019 open borders.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019

    USMChawk said:

    And dismantling the welfare state.

    How do you like them apples?

    This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).
    And if there is no services for them, asylum claims are denied, and there is no job waiting, what’s the issue? And the welfare state is dismantled. Why do you ignore that part?

    Come here and work or fuck off. There is always room for actual refugees...Actual refugees. Not made up redefinition of the word.
    You're against open borders? They all closed own!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,591 Founders Club

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Timeout time.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
    I'm troubled that I actually deciphered that as English.

    At any rate, what was that number then? I don't recall anything about a specific number. What he, and others, are talking about is the natural flow of labor to capital that occurs in an efficient market. When there's no work, there's less pressure on immigration. Reagan would no more have planned for a particular number than he would have advocated for a steel quota. Reagan was a capitalist. I know that hurts your head.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    edited July 2019

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Things losers from Oregon say.

    Four generations in and all your family has produced is a POS from the trailer park who enlisted after high school as a private and discharged as a private. I would sooner slice off my balls than allow one of my children to co-mingle my genes with that of your shit family.

    As to whether I'm being tolerated by the indigenous folk, I'll let @Swaye speak to that issue. He seems to be tolerating me just fine.

    Basically, I'm just better than you, and my kids are better than yours.
  • MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Things losers from Oregon say.

    Four generations in and all your family has produced is a POS from the trailer park who enlisted after high school as a private and discharged as a private. I would sooner slice off my balls than allow one of my children to co-mingle my genes with that of your shit family.

    As to whether I'm being tolerated by the indigenous folk, I'll let @Swaye speak to that issue. He seems to be tolerating me just fine.

    Basically, I'm just better than you, and my kids are better than yours.
    Some of what you ramble on about makes me question my Creepy man-crush... but then you square-up a right hook on OBK's jaw and remind me why.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    MisterEm said:

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Things losers from Oregon say.

    Four generations in and all your family has produced is a POS from the trailer park who enlisted after high school as a private and discharged as a private. I would sooner slice off my balls than allow one of my children to co-mingle my genes with that of your shit family.

    As to whether I'm being tolerated by the indigenous folk, I'll let @Swaye speak to that issue. He seems to be tolerating me just fine.

    Basically, I'm just better than you, and my kids are better than yours.
    Some of what you ramble on about makes me question my Creepy man-crush... but then you square-up a right hook on OBK's jaw and remind me why.

    I love you too man.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    MisterEm said:

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Things losers from Oregon say.

    Four generations in and all your family has produced is a POS from the trailer park who enlisted after high school as a private and discharged as a private. I would sooner slice off my balls than allow one of my children to co-mingle my genes with that of your shit family.

    As to whether I'm being tolerated by the indigenous folk, I'll let @Swaye speak to that issue. He seems to be tolerating me just fine.

    Basically, I'm just better than you, and my kids are better than yours.
    Some of what you ramble on about makes me question my Creepy man-crush... but then you square-up a right hook on OBK's jaw and remind me why.

    Too much violent imagery, Em.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    edited July 2019

    MisterEm said:

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Things losers from Oregon say.

    Four generations in and all your family has produced is a POS from the trailer park who enlisted after high school as a private and discharged as a private. I would sooner slice off my balls than allow one of my children to co-mingle my genes with that of your shit family.

    As to whether I'm being tolerated by the indigenous folk, I'll let @Swaye speak to that issue. He seems to be tolerating me just fine.

    Basically, I'm just better than you, and my kids are better than yours.
    Some of what you ramble on about makes me question my Creepy man-crush... but then you square-up a right hook on OBK's jaw and remind me why.

    Too much violent imagery, Em.
    Triggered!

    Safespace for the bomber, stat.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter

    MisterEm said:

    You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.

    We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.
    You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.
    Things losers from Oregon say.

    Four generations in and all your family has produced is a POS from the trailer park who enlisted after high school as a private and discharged as a private. I would sooner slice off my balls than allow one of my children to co-mingle my genes with that of your shit family.

    As to whether I'm being tolerated by the indigenous folk, I'll let @Swaye speak to that issue. He seems to be tolerating me just fine.

    Basically, I'm just better than you, and my kids are better than yours.
    Some of what you ramble on about makes me question my Creepy man-crush... but then you square-up a right hook on OBK's jaw and remind me why.

    Too much violent imagery, Em.
    Triggered!

    Safespace for the bomber, stat.
    A DIAFF or Napalming is preferable to the violence of bare-knuckle fighting is all I’m saying.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    Just got off the phone with my nazi guy. He says we don’t want that fucking loser OBK. He’s bad for the whole master race brand. Maybe the Ruskies will take him?
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