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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
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    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
    I'm troubled that I actually deciphered that as English.

    At any rate, what was that number then? I don't recall anything about a specific number. What he, and others, are talking about is the natural flow of labor to capital that occurs in an efficient market. When there's no work, there's less pressure on immigration. Reagan would no more have planned for a particular number than he would have advocated for a steel quota. Reagan was a capitalist. I know that hurts your head.
    Get your crystal ball and ask Ronnie if he meant 20 to 40 million that never go home. Pretty sure he'd tell you to fuck off.
    Pretty sure you can't be pretty sure of any such thing. Pretty sure that's how you feel and you're projecting your feelings on a dead President.
    Guest workers aren't an invasion. HTH
    Neither is what's going on now. Quit being such a fucking pussy for Christ's sake. Reagan was a capitalist and welcomed people who wanted to come here and work:

    "Through this Golden Door, under the gaze of that Mother of Exiles, has come millions of men and women, who first stepped foot on American soil right there, on Ellis Island, so close to the Statue of Liberty.

    These families came here to work. They came to build. Others came to America in different ways, from other lands, under different, and often harrowing conditions, but this place symbolizes what they all managed to build, no matter where they came from or how they came or how much they suffered.

    They helped to build that magnificent city across the river. They spread across the land building other cities and towns and incredibly productive farms.

    They came to make America work. They didn’t ask what this country could do for them but what they could do to make this, this refuge the greatest home of freedom in history.

    They brought with them courage, ambition and the values of family, neighborhood, work, peace and freedom. We all came from different lands but we shared the same values, the same dream."
    We can't absorb all those coming plus the 20-40 million already here. We need to deport them all and then make decisions on who and what we want. 3rd worlders don't get to make our decisions for us.
    We can absorb all that work. And eliminate the welfare state. Who cares what the number is?
    No we can't. So we then accept anyone and everyone from the entire world? No thanks. We'd have a billion people here in 6 months.
    If we have work for a billion people in 6 months we will need them.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter

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    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
    I'm troubled that I actually deciphered that as English.

    At any rate, what was that number then? I don't recall anything about a specific number. What he, and others, are talking about is the natural flow of labor to capital that occurs in an efficient market. When there's no work, there's less pressure on immigration. Reagan would no more have planned for a particular number than he would have advocated for a steel quota. Reagan was a capitalist. I know that hurts your head.
    Get your crystal ball and ask Ronnie if he meant 20 to 40 million that never go home. Pretty sure he'd tell you to fuck off.
    Pretty sure you can't be pretty sure of any such thing. Pretty sure that's how you feel and you're projecting your feelings on a dead President.
    Guest workers aren't an invasion. HTH
    Neither is what's going on now. Quit being such a fucking pussy for Christ's sake. Reagan was a capitalist and welcomed people who wanted to come here and work:

    "Through this Golden Door, under the gaze of that Mother of Exiles, has come millions of men and women, who first stepped foot on American soil right there, on Ellis Island, so close to the Statue of Liberty.

    These families came here to work. They came to build. Others came to America in different ways, from other lands, under different, and often harrowing conditions, but this place symbolizes what they all managed to build, no matter where they came from or how they came or how much they suffered.

    They helped to build that magnificent city across the river. They spread across the land building other cities and towns and incredibly productive farms.

    They came to make America work. They didn’t ask what this country could do for them but what they could do to make this, this refuge the greatest home of freedom in history.

    They brought with them courage, ambition and the values of family, neighborhood, work, peace and freedom. We all came from different lands but we shared the same values, the same dream."
    We can't absorb all those coming plus the 20-40 million already here. We need to deport them all and then make decisions on who and what we want. 3rd worlders don't get to make our decisions for us.
    We can absorb all that work. And eliminate the welfare state. Who cares what the number is?
    No we can't. So we then accept anyone and everyone from the entire world? No thanks. We'd have a billion people here in 6 months.
    If we have work for a billion people in 6 months we will need them.
    Can they sleep at your place?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
    Sledog said:

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    Sledog said:

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    Sledog said:

    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
    I'm troubled that I actually deciphered that as English.

    At any rate, what was that number then? I don't recall anything about a specific number. What he, and others, are talking about is the natural flow of labor to capital that occurs in an efficient market. When there's no work, there's less pressure on immigration. Reagan would no more have planned for a particular number than he would have advocated for a steel quota. Reagan was a capitalist. I know that hurts your head.
    Get your crystal ball and ask Ronnie if he meant 20 to 40 million that never go home. Pretty sure he'd tell you to fuck off.
    Pretty sure you can't be pretty sure of any such thing. Pretty sure that's how you feel and you're projecting your feelings on a dead President.
    Guest workers aren't an invasion. HTH
    Neither is what's going on now. Quit being such a fucking pussy for Christ's sake. Reagan was a capitalist and welcomed people who wanted to come here and work:

    "Through this Golden Door, under the gaze of that Mother of Exiles, has come millions of men and women, who first stepped foot on American soil right there, on Ellis Island, so close to the Statue of Liberty.

    These families came here to work. They came to build. Others came to America in different ways, from other lands, under different, and often harrowing conditions, but this place symbolizes what they all managed to build, no matter where they came from or how they came or how much they suffered.

    They helped to build that magnificent city across the river. They spread across the land building other cities and towns and incredibly productive farms.

    They came to make America work. They didn’t ask what this country could do for them but what they could do to make this, this refuge the greatest home of freedom in history.

    They brought with them courage, ambition and the values of family, neighborhood, work, peace and freedom. We all came from different lands but we shared the same values, the same dream."
    We can't absorb all those coming plus the 20-40 million already here. We need to deport them all and then make decisions on who and what we want. 3rd worlders don't get to make our decisions for us.
    We can absorb all that work. And eliminate the welfare state. Who cares what the number is?
    No we can't. So we then accept anyone and everyone from the entire world? No thanks. We'd have a billion people here in 6 months.
    If we have work for a billion people in 6 months we will need them.
    Can they sleep at your place?
    Why would they need to? Since they are all employed tax payers they can get their own places.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233
    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
    Just explain where all those jobs and housing are going to come from.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
    Just explain where all those jobs and housing are going to come from.
    You have it backwards. The jobs have to exist first.

    If there are no jobs, there will be no need for housing.

    No job, no welfare state, no one wants to come here.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    Sledog said:

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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

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    Sledog said:

    Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.

    So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.
    I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!
    Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!
    Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.
    But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?
    It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.
    No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.
    No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.

    Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
    Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.
    No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.
    No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.
    True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.
    No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.
    I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.
    The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.

    This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag.
    A certain number he never talked hoard admission.
    I'm troubled that I actually deciphered that as English.

    At any rate, what was that number then? I don't recall anything about a specific number. What he, and others, are talking about is the natural flow of labor to capital that occurs in an efficient market. When there's no work, there's less pressure on immigration. Reagan would no more have planned for a particular number than he would have advocated for a steel quota. Reagan was a capitalist. I know that hurts your head.
    Get your crystal ball and ask Ronnie if he meant 20 to 40 million that never go home. Pretty sure he'd tell you to fuck off.
    Pretty sure you can't be pretty sure of any such thing. Pretty sure that's how you feel and you're projecting your feelings on a dead President.
    Guest workers aren't an invasion. HTH
    Neither is what's going on now. Quit being such a fucking pussy for Christ's sake. Reagan was a capitalist and welcomed people who wanted to come here and work:

    "Through this Golden Door, under the gaze of that Mother of Exiles, has come millions of men and women, who first stepped foot on American soil right there, on Ellis Island, so close to the Statue of Liberty.

    These families came here to work. They came to build. Others came to America in different ways, from other lands, under different, and often harrowing conditions, but this place symbolizes what they all managed to build, no matter where they came from or how they came or how much they suffered.

    They helped to build that magnificent city across the river. They spread across the land building other cities and towns and incredibly productive farms.

    They came to make America work. They didn’t ask what this country could do for them but what they could do to make this, this refuge the greatest home of freedom in history.

    They brought with them courage, ambition and the values of family, neighborhood, work, peace and freedom. We all came from different lands but we shared the same values, the same dream."
    We can't absorb all those coming plus the 20-40 million already here. We need to deport them all and then make decisions on who and what we want. 3rd worlders don't get to make our decisions for us.
    Because you say?

    Please forgive any implied lack of regard to your expertise in such matters, but on what basis do you come to that conclusion? Have you actually looked into it? Or are you parroting gibberish from some tin foil hat website that tends to say what you want to hear?

    Is it the legal paperwork part that troubles you? Or your how you picture these people in your mind? Is the point law and order and following the rules? Sure, that's a value. Or is the point making a better country? Because this country is entirely full of human garbage who by accident of history just happened to be born here. If you had your druthers, would you ship them out with the trash?

    I'm struggling with your value proposition. I could respect an Utopian-angle on this thing ... truly make America great [again?] by drastically limiting the welfare state to those who truly cannot fend for themselves and get the fuck rid of the weight of unproductive stupid people.

    But the guy who comes here and works his ass off to better life for himself and his family? I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about getting rid of him as you seem to be.

    Lay it out there Copper.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
    Just explain where all those jobs and housing are going to come from.
    You have it backwards. The jobs have to exist first.

    If there are no jobs, there will be no need for housing.

    No job, no welfare state, no one wants to come here.
    Simple and easy peasy. Make it a felony offense to employ an illegal with mandatory jail time. It used to be illegal to employ illegals.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
    Just explain where all those jobs and housing are going to come from.
    You have it backwards. The jobs have to exist first.

    If there are no jobs, there will be no need for housing.

    No job, no welfare state, no one wants to come here.
    Simple and easy peasy. Make it a felony offense to employ an illegal with mandatory jail time. It used to be illegal to employ illegals.
    There would be no illegals because the company/person employing them would make sure that have a guest worker permit.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,785 Swaye's Wigwam
    I'm hearing it isn't a crisis now. Looking forward to the foot stomping on this.



    Trump signs humanitarian aid package to bolster migrant care
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,178 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
    Just explain where all those jobs and housing are going to come from.
    You have it backwards. The jobs have to exist first.

    If there are no jobs, there will be no need for housing.

    No job, no welfare state, no one wants to come here.
    Simple and easy peasy. Make it a felony offense to employ an illegal with mandatory jail time. It used to be illegal to employ illegals.
    There would be no illegals because the company/person employing them would make sure that have a guest worker permit.
    This is the kind of intelligent immigration policy we could have but we aren't allowed to have nice things

    Legal immigration for folks that bring something to the table

    Guest worker program for Mike's lawn care and back home you go with cash that Mexico needs

    Fix DACA and the kids who are now as old as I am

    Path for the "good ones" that are here illegally but have done a good job on Mike's lawn

    Kick the bad hombres out


    All for one low cost of a wall. You'll get 81% agreement. The Ann Colulters and Sleds will hate it but that's their right to do so

    I'll give you everything you want if you stop the bullshit we have happening now at the border
    Good line.

    Coulter just wants to Coulter, and I expect that if Trump did exactly as she wished she'd pivot to something else. Without that, she's not relevant. Nobody gets air tim to espouse how much they agree with anybody about anything.

    My go-to line: who could be against legal immigration? Not me.
    That's kind of the whole point.

    LEGAL immigration. Nobody in their right mind is against legal.

    Write it up, spell it out, execute and enforce. Pretty fucking simple.

    Then duke it out on the parking lots of Home Depot, the bodagas and in the classroom to get an edjumacation to move to the next socio-economic level. Just like every migrant class of micks, wops, guineas, chinks, spics and traitorous heretics have done since their respective tired masses entered the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    'MURICA!






  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog seems like he's too retarded to understand what you're saying, Mike.

    Certainly he is struggling.
    Just explain where all those jobs and housing are going to come from.
    You have it backwards. The jobs have to exist first.

    If there are no jobs, there will be no need for housing.

    No job, no welfare state, no one wants to come here.
    Simple and easy peasy. Make it a felony offense to employ an illegal with mandatory jail time. It used to be illegal to employ illegals.
    There would be no illegals because the company/person employing them would make sure that have a guest worker permit.
    This is the kind of intelligent immigration policy we could have but we aren't allowed to have nice things

    Legal immigration for folks that bring something to the table

    Guest worker program for Mike's lawn care and back home you go with cash that Mexico needs

    Fix DACA and the kids who are now as old as I am

    Path for the "good ones" that are here illegally but have done a good job on Mike's lawn

    Kick the bad hombres out


    All for one low cost of a wall. You'll get 81% agreement. The Ann Colulters and Sleds will hate it but that's their right to do so

    I'll give you everything you want if you stop the bullshit we have happening now at the border
    Good line.

    Coulter just wants to Coulter, and I expect that if Trump did exactly as she wished she'd pivot to something else. Without that, she's not relevant. Nobody gets air tim to espouse how much they agree with anybody about anything.

    My go-to line: who could be against legal immigration? Not me.
    That's kind of the whole point.

    LEGAL immigration. Nobody in their right mind is against legal.

    Write it up, spell it out, execute and enforce. Pretty fucking simple.

    Then duke it out on the parking lots of Home Depot, the bodagas and in the classroom to get an edjumacation to move to the next socio-economic level. Just like every migrant class of micks, wops, guineas, chinks, spics and traitorous heretics have done since their respective tired masses entered the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    'MURICA!






    Only in tac town
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter
    You swing those gates open with the left promising free everything to illegals we'll be getting massive numbers from all over the world with no jobs, no housing and we'll be broke in no time.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
    Sledog said:

    You swing those gates open with the left promising free everything to illegals we'll be getting massive numbers from all over the world with no jobs, no housing and we'll be broke in no time.

    Did you not read a fucking thing I said?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    You swing those gates open with the left promising free everything to illegals we'll be getting massive numbers from all over the world with no jobs, no housing and we'll be broke in no time.

    Did you not read a fucking thing I said?
    We don't agree on how it would all go. Simple as that.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    Sledog said:

    You swing those gates open with the left promising free everything to illegals we'll be getting massive numbers from all over the world with no jobs, no housing and we'll be broke in no time.

    Did you not read a fucking thing I said?
    He read it.

    Couldn't understand it.

    There were words and stuff so he got confused.
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