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I see. Thanks.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
Isn't that a bit of a ridiculous request of me? Not everything is reducible to a list or a link. Is there any subtlety in your world? Any judgment? Any inference? Any "dead reckoning" understanding? I had a kid apply to and get in to Oberlin, and another recruited to play soccer there. I'm loosely acquainted with the school. Both kids chose other schools, which are themselves pretty left-leaning LACs in the Northeastern US. I know a lot of people who attended Oberlin and I have their impressions and what I know of them.
Oberlin is a place where I perceive that Kashama Sawant would feel perfectly at home. I can't say that she's representative of 3/4s of the Democratic party.
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All that just to say you couldn't do it. You're the one who objected to my statement about 3/4 s of the Rat party Presidential candidates (you misrepresented what I actually said) being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad.creepycoug said:
I see. Thanks.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
Isn't that a bit of a ridiculous request of me? Not everything is reducible to a list or a link. Is there any subtlety in your world? Any judgment? Any inference? Any "dead reckoning" understanding? I had a kid apply to and get in to Oberlin, and another recruited to play soccer there. I'm loosely acquainted with the school. Both kids chose other schools, which are themselves pretty left-leaning LACs in the Northeastern US. I know a lot of people who attended Oberlin and I have their impressions and what I know of them.
Oberlin is a place where I perceive that Kashama Sawant would feel perfectly at home. I can't say that she's representative of 3/4s of the Democratic party.
You know, you can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true.
If you're going to challenge what I said you'd think you'd be able to provide a little substance in order to back up your challenge. Great, you had a kid apply to Oberlin, so did O'Keefed. Now how does that show their average undergrad is further to the left than say Bernie or Beto?
If you want to just emote have at it, but if you're going to challenge what I say have something stronger than your kid applied to Oberlin. -
You really have a poor understanding of just how big the political spectrum is. It's not surprising though given how militantly far to the right you are. Your depth perception is bound to be a bit fucked up.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me. -
Feeeeeeelings, nothing more than feeeeeeeeeeelings....GreenRiverGatorz said:
You really have a poor understanding of just how big the political spectrum is. It's not surprising though given how militantly far to the right you are. Your depth perception is bound to be a bit fucked up.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
You have anything more to back up your mouth or is that it? How is my understanding of the political spectrum "poor" provide some examples. What makes me "militantly" far right? Again, provide some examples.
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NahSFGbob said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
You really have a poor understanding of just how big the political spectrum is. It's not surprising though given how militantly far to the right you are. Your depth perception is bound to be a bit fucked up.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
Again, provide some examples. -
There's no more interesting reading than watching a Kunt refuse to back up their fucking mouth.GreenRiverGatorz said:
NahSFGbob said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
You really have a poor understanding of just how big the political spectrum is. It's not surprising though given how militantly far to the right you are. Your depth perception is bound to be a bit fucked up.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
Again, provide some examples. -
You are so stuck in this [I challenge you] ---> [you couldn't do it] shit that you can't see when the other person simply isn't interested, as opposed to lying, being a kunt, intentionally misrepresenting, stupid, emoting, etc.SFGbob said:
All that just to say you couldn't do it. You're the one who objected to my statement about 3/4 s of the Rat party Presidential candidates (you misrepresented what I actually said) being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad.creepycoug said:
I see. Thanks.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
Isn't that a bit of a ridiculous request of me? Not everything is reducible to a list or a link. Is there any subtlety in your world? Any judgment? Any inference? Any "dead reckoning" understanding? I had a kid apply to and get in to Oberlin, and another recruited to play soccer there. I'm loosely acquainted with the school. Both kids chose other schools, which are themselves pretty left-leaning LACs in the Northeastern US. I know a lot of people who attended Oberlin and I have their impressions and what I know of them.
Oberlin is a place where I perceive that Kashama Sawant would feel perfectly at home. I can't say that she's representative of 3/4s of the Democratic party.
You know, you can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true.
If you're going to challenge what I said you'd think you'd be able to provide a little substance in order to back up your challenge. Great, you had a kid apply to Oberlin, so did O'Keefed. Now how does that show their average undergrad is further to the left than say Bernie or Beto?
If you want to just emote have at it, but if you're going to challenge what I say have something stronger than your kid applied to Oberlin.
It would appear that I did misread what you wrote. If we're limiting the comparison to the current group of D candidates, sure, of that group, while I'm not going to pretend to be able to triangulate with mathematical precision what each of candidates thinks about everything with the average Oberlin undergrad thoughts on those subjects, I can certainly admit that a good portion would likely have felt comfortable at Oberlin as an undergraduate.
I think this all started when someone was trying to make the point that Oberlin is not a token example of a liberal group of people. "Merely liberal" was the phrase I believe. And that's correct. Oberlin is radically liberal and likely someplace any kind of centrist or moderate would find difficult to tolerate, and I stand by that point.
FWIW, I didn't say that a kid of mine applied to Oberlin and, therefore, it follows that I have completed a political survey and can prove precisely that the average kid there is further left than anybody. I couldn't prove that is true any more readily than you can prove it's not. It's not 'prove' thing. It's a rough estimate generalization. We're not doing math. I said I was acquainted with the school by long-standing reputation and through considerable contact within the last five years.
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@SFGBob: Maybe 3/4ths of the Dem candidates seem like Oberlin material based on their pandering on the campaign trail, but you know better than to take any politician of any party at their word. CC has it right that Oberlin is a Sawant ideology embracing campus but that doesn't mean 3/4ths of the Dems would govern from that same spot on the spectrum. In fact, a brief study of the last 30 years would tell you that most of the voting public in this country is not where Oberlin is, including the Dems you're citing. It's a little early in the race to be making sweeping judgments because at this point the only rule is "say anything to get primary votes." And the primaries draw all the nut jobs out early.
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Oberlin has a decent endowment, but that will hurt them. They'll survive, but that's a bad day at the office for the endowment committee.DJDuck said:But but but we can’t afford it 😢
Oberlin College pleads poverty to jury deciding on punitive damages
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/oberlin_college_pleads_poverty_to_jury_deciding_on_punitive_damages.html
The rub, though, is that Oberlin, like a lot of these wealthy small private colleges, are the main game in town. They generate a lot of economic activity for the places they find themselves in that are otherwise in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere. Although Oberlin is less than an hour outside Cleveland, so it's not as isolated as its peer Kenyon out in Gambier. -
Ok Bob I'll bite. What policy positions of each of those candidates is as liberal as the policy positions for Oberlin.SFGbob said:creepycoug said:
He's actually correct.SFGbob said:
Oberlin is no more liberal than 3/4s of the Rat party Presidential candidates. I love how you try and distance yourself from what you vote for.HHusky said:
Liberal doesn’t begin to describe Oberlin. It is as extreme to the left as you are to the right. But I agree that extremists are stupid.Sledog said:
Oberlin is a bastion of very, very far left liberal thought. That, and their vaunted music conservatory, is what they're known for.
I would say that measuring 3/4s of the Democratic party as being as far left as your typical Oberlin undergrad is probably going a little far.
It's a good school, you have to be smart to get in, but it's way the fuck far left.
You can say whatever you want. Doesn't make it true. Bernie, Beto, Fauxcahontas, Mayor Gay Beto, T-bone, are all just as far to the left as your typical Oberlin undergrad. What positions does your average Oberlin undergrad hold that any of these folks would object to? Name a few for me.
