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Dems meeting tommorow on impeachment. Pelosi to have dinner with Trump in evening

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    I just read the headline. But race tells me that the Russia investigation began because of Hillary and an illegal dossier. And Trump tells me the NY times is failing and fake news.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    2001400ex said:

    I just read the headline. But race tells me that the Russia investigation began because of Hillary and an illegal dossier. And Trump tells me the NY times is failing and fake news.
    Lies lies and lies
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,331
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    2001400ex said:

    I just read the headline. But race tells me that the Russia investigation began because of Hillary and an illegal dossier. And Trump tells me the NY times is failing and fake news.
    I told you there was no FISA warrant without the Russians dossier that Hillary used

    The FBI told you the same thing

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,331
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    That article is discredited but not surprising someone dumb enough to fall for collusion would still fall for it
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    That article is discredited but not surprising someone dumb enough to fall for collusion would still fall for it

    What so alarmed American officials to provoke the F.B.I. to open a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign months before the presidential election?

    It was not, as Mr. Trump and other politicians have alleged, a dossier compiled by a former British spy hired by a rival campaign. Instead, it was firsthand information from one of America’s closest intelligence allies.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    You people either use only some of the facts or just repeat lies and then reach the wrong conclusion.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,331
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    That article is discredited but not surprising someone dumb enough to fall for collusion would still fall for it

    What so alarmed American officials to provoke the F.B.I. to open a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign months before the presidential election?

    It was not, as Mr. Trump and other politicians have alleged, a dossier compiled by a former British spy hired by a rival campaign. Instead, it was firsthand information from one of America’s closest intelligence allies.
    Lie

    Proven lies
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,331
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    You people either use only some of the facts or just repeat lies and then reach the wrong conclusion.

    JFC that's all you're doing here

    Did you miss the big investigation?

    Nada zip zero
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Meanwhile we know for a fact that Hillary paid a British foreign national for "political dirt" on Trump that he obtained from Russians with ties to Putin and Mueller showed no interest in this.

    Mueller found no evidence that Papadopoulos conspired with any Russians for any dirt on Hillary. Also plenty of evidence that the supposed "Russian" that Papadopoulos met with, Mifsud, was a CIA or FBI asset.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    You people either use only some of the facts or just repeat lies and then reach the wrong conclusion.

    JFC that's all you're doing here

    Did you miss the big investigation?

    Nada zip zero
    Ironic.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    Whatever. You guys are symptomatic of the "post truth" which makes it socially acceptable to distort reality for your goals.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    Post-truth politics (also called post-factual politics and post-reality politics) is a political culture in which debate is framed largely by appeals to emotion disconnected from the details of policy, and by the repeated assertion of talking points to which factual rebuttals are ignored. Post-truth differs from traditional contesting and falsifying of facts by relegating facts and expert opinions to be of secondary importance relative to appeal to emotion. While this has been described as a contemporary problem, some observers have described it as a long-standing part of political life that was less notable before the advent of the Internet and related social changes.


    SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACTS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DEBATE
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,331
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    Post-truth politics (also called post-factual politics and post-reality politics) is a political culture in which debate is framed largely by appeals to emotion disconnected from the details of policy, and by the repeated assertion of talking points to which factual rebuttals are ignored. Post-truth differs from traditional contesting and falsifying of facts by relegating facts and expert opinions to be of secondary importance relative to appeal to emotion. While this has been described as a contemporary problem, some observers have described it as a long-standing part of political life that was less notable before the advent of the Internet and related social changes.


    SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACTS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DEBATE

    You don't have any facts. You can't exist outside your CNN bubble
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Post-truth politics (also called post-factual politics and post-reality politics) is a political culture in which debate is framed largely by appeals to emotion disconnected from the details of policy, and by the repeated assertion of talking points to which factual rebuttals are ignored. Post-truth differs from traditional contesting and falsifying of facts by relegating facts and expert opinions to be of secondary importance relative to appeal to emotion. While this has been described as a contemporary problem, some observers have described it as a long-standing part of political life that was less notable before the advent of the Internet and related social changes.


    SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACTS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DEBATE

    I'm more than happy to address your facts. In fact I have addressed your facts. There is no evidence that Papadopoulos conspired with any Russians for any dirt on Hillary. That is a fact that you ignore. There is no evidence that Mifsud is a Russian agent but there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that he is either an FBI or CIA asset.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    I've posted links to articles from bona fide news sources which negate your contentions: 1) that Hillary's dossier started the FBI investigation (NY Times link), 2) that Democrats can see the unredacted report (see Reuters, this is false). Both points #1 and #2 are just false.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,751
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    Sledog said:

    Well?

    It's illegal to release grand jury stuff. Illegal. Look up the definition. They've read the less redacted report. Can't read grand jury Shit. It's illegal. I repeated it several times since your skull is thick.
    Sledog said:

    Well?

    It's illegal to release grand jury stuff. Illegal. Look up the definition. They've read the less redacted report. Can't read grand jury Shit. It's illegal. I repeated it several times since your skull is thick.
    You believe bullshit! The AG often will petition in court to release grand jury stuff. It's done regularly. But again, Barr refused.

    The main problem with you idiotic far right dumbfucks is that you steadfastly resist to get the supporting considerations. You believe lies like "no collusion no obstruction" despite there being both because that's what you want to believe. You are consistently SELECTIVE WITH THE FACTS ... Or just lie!
    The fact is there was no crimes hence no charges. If there were they would have been the result of the fruit of the poison tree and inadmissible in court. It's an investigation started by a political opponent that colluded and paid Russians for false information which was fed to the FBI,CIA etc. by actors within our government in order to derail Trumps election and impeach him if he did win.

    Fuck you commies are some committed lying pieces of shit. Move to Cuba or North Korea will ya?
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Barr offered access to a less-redacted version of the report to just 12 members of Congress — six Democrats and six Republicans. But as of Tuesday afternoon, only Rep. Doug Collins, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, opted to view it. A third, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he planned to review the report later Tuesday.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,331
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    I've posted links to articles from bona fide news sources which negate your contentions: 1) that Hillary's dossier started the FBI investigation (NY Times link), 2) that Democrats can see the unredacted report (see Reuters, this is false). Both points #1 and #2 are just false.

    McCabe said no dossier no warrant

    Inconvenient fact for you right there
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    Sounds like another Infrastructure Week has fallen apart. Sad.
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