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YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,205 Founders Club
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Spare me with your morality. Although @creepycoug would be pleased that they took a TUFF stand and no half measures.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-law-roe-v-wade/index.html


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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    I would definitely boycott Alabama if there was anything to do there.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Spare me with your morality. Although @creepycoug would be pleased that they took a TUFF stand and no half measures.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-law-roe-v-wade/index.html


    It's what should have happened with this issue from the beginning. If California wants to make abortion legal they should have the ability to do so. And if the voters of Alabama want to outlaw abortion they should have ability to do so.

    Georgia wants to prosecute women who return to the state having had an abortion. I don't know what Alabama's bill says.

    What other medical procedures should we criminalize, Alabama? Vasectomies?
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    I would definitely boycott Alabama if there was anything to do there.


    Imagine boycotting a state of something so fucktared.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited May 2019
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Spare me with your morality. Although @creepycoug would be pleased that they took a TUFF stand and no half measures.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-law-roe-v-wade/index.html


    It's what should have happened with this issue from the beginning. If California wants to make abortion legal they should have the ability to do so. And if the voters of Alabama want to outlaw abortion they should have ability to do so.

    Georgia wants to prosecute women who return to the state having had an abortion. I don't know what Alabama's bill says.

    What other medical procedures should we criminalize, Alabama? Vasectomies?
    One of the sure signs you're dealing with a gas bag, is when they lie about easily proven facts.

    No, Georgia’s Heartbeat Bill Won’t Imprison Women Who Have Abortions


    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/georgia-heartbeat-bill-will-not-imprison-women-who-have-abortions/
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
    To bad the won’t be able to kill them before they are born. Too risky to let them live IMO. It’s cheaper to.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    The Alabama Senate passed a bill Tuesday evening to ban nearly all abortions. The state House had already overwhelmingly approved the legislation. It's part of a broader anti-abortion strategy to prompt the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider the right to abortion.

    It would be one of the most restrictive abortion bans in the United States. The bill would make it a crime for doctors to perform abortions at any stage of a pregnancy, unless a woman's life is threatened or in case of a lethal fetal anomaly.

    The vote was 25-6, with one abstention.

    Doctors in the state would face felony jail time up to 99 years if convicted. But a woman would not be held criminally liable for having an abortion.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/05/14/723312937/alabama-lawmakers-passes-abortion-ban


    Gas bags are going to gas bag.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    MikeDamone said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
    To bad the won’t be able to kill them before they are born. Too risky to let them live IMO. It’s cheaper to.
    Besides, you're a big believer in a woman's liberty.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
    O'Keefed comes out today in support abortion as a means to keep crime low, and we all know who gets most of the abortions in this country, and yesterday he came out in opposition to the creation of a Jewish homeland.

    Can you breath with that hood on O'Keefed?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,658 Founders Club
    edited May 2019
    In 18 years when Bama is still kicking our ass in football you'll know why

    @CirrhosisDawg is a big fan of state's rights. Pretty sure he is on board with Alabama

    It would be funny if after 50 years of scare tactics something happened after all

    My advice is for both sides to calm down. Keep it safe and legal in the first trimester. Ease off the after birth abortion agenda.

    Every action has a reaction.

    My early line has the Surpemes upholding Roe thanks to Kavenaugh. Too bad the democrats want to impeach him
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
    O'Keefed comes out today in support abortion as a means to keep crime low, and we all know who gets most of the abortions in this country, and yesterday he came out in opposition to the creation of a Jewish homeland.

    Can you breath with that hood on O'Keefed?
    Why do you hate facts? Every reader of Freakonomics knows there was a measurable drop in crime 18 years after abortion became legal and it occurred earlier in states that legalized abortion earlier.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
    O'Keefed comes out today in support abortion as a means to keep crime low, and we all know who gets most of the abortions in this country, and yesterday he came out in opposition to the creation of a Jewish homeland.

    Can you breath with that hood on O'Keefed?
    Why do you hate facts? Every reader of Freakonomics knows there was a measurable drop in crime 18 years after abortion became legal and it occurred earlier in states that legalized abortion earlier.
    Sure thing Dr. Mengele.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,658 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    I don't know about soar, but a measurable increase in crime? Yes.
    O'Keefed comes out today in support abortion as a means to keep crime low, and we all know who gets most of the abortions in this country, and yesterday he came out in opposition to the creation of a Jewish homeland.

    Can you breath with that hood on O'Keefed?
    Why do you hate facts? Every reader of Freakonomics knows there was a measurable drop in crime 18 years after abortion became legal and it occurred earlier in states that legalized abortion earlier.
    Eugenics could take that much further

    Lets do it. Let's kill black babies like the founder of planned parenthood always wanted

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    RaceBannon said:

    In 18 years when Bama is still kicking our ass in football you'll know why

    @CirrhosisDawg is a big fan of state's rights. Pretty sure he is on board with Alabama

    It would be funny if after 50 years of scare tactics something happened after all

    My advice is for both sides to calm down. Keep it safe and legal in the first trimester. Ease off the after birth abortion agenda.

    Every action has a reaction.

    My early line has the Surpemes upholding Roe thanks to Kavenaugh. Too bad the democrats want to impeach him

    Roe is a terrible opinion. I also think it is probably upheld, but it would probably have been better for the states to discover on their own how stupid it is to make abortion illegal.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,658 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    In 18 years when Bama is still kicking our ass in football you'll know why

    @CirrhosisDawg is a big fan of state's rights. Pretty sure he is on board with Alabama

    It would be funny if after 50 years of scare tactics something happened after all

    My advice is for both sides to calm down. Keep it safe and legal in the first trimester. Ease off the after birth abortion agenda.

    Every action has a reaction.

    My early line has the Surpemes upholding Roe thanks to Kavenaugh. Too bad the democrats want to impeach him

    Roe is a terrible opinion. I also think it is probably upheld, but it would probably have been better for the states to discover on their own how stupid it is to make abortion illegal.
    Seems like Bama is doing that

    Its the one thing that could actually hurt the Trump Train

    GOP types are supposed to promise to get rid of abortion not actually do it

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    In 18 years when Bama is still kicking our ass in football you'll know why

    @CirrhosisDawg is a big fan of state's rights. Pretty sure he is on board with Alabama

    It would be funny if after 50 years of scare tactics something happened after all

    My advice is for both sides to calm down. Keep it safe and legal in the first trimester. Ease off the after birth abortion agenda.

    Every action has a reaction.

    My early line has the Surpemes upholding Roe thanks to Kavenaugh. Too bad the democrats want to impeach him

    Roe is a terrible opinion. I also think it is probably upheld, but it would probably have been better for the states to discover on their own how stupid it is to make abortion illegal.
    You know what, you and I agree on this. Without Roe all of this would have been worked out years ago. There would be some states where abortion was restricted to 1st trimester and then there would be states that you'd support that would allow you to murder the baby as it exits the birth canal but almost all states, with the exception of maybe two or three would allow for legal abortions.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Am I the only one that doesn’t give two shits about abortion?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    PurpleJ said:

    Am I the only one that doesn’t give two shits about abortion?

    Yes
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    It's not a voting issue for me other than the late term infanticide the Rats are now pushing.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    YellowSnow said:

    Spare me with your morality. Although @creepycoug would be pleased that they took a TUFF stand and no half measures.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-law-roe-v-wade/index.html


    I'm nothing if not intellectually pure and innocent. I just like my philosophizers up front and honest. Not like these Christian charlatans who play a duplicitous half-baked game of person-hood.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Spare me with your morality. Although @creepycoug would be pleased that they took a TUFF stand and no half measures.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-law-roe-v-wade/index.html


    It's what should have happened with this issue from the beginning. If California wants to make abortion legal they should have the ability to do so. And if the voters of Alabama want to outlaw abortion they should have ability to do so.

    What if one state, say, wants to make it ok to segregate kids into separate schools based on race. I know it's a cooky theory and would never happen in the US, but what if? Doesn't that seem like the sort of thing about which that the United States of American should be unified? Or are regional differences that important? Just asking the question.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,854
    SFGbob said:

    It's not a voting issue for me other than the late term infanticide the Rats are now pushing.

    'Cuz all the old men imagine that women are making cavalier decisions to off the Gerber baby instead of dealing with a personal tragedy. (What Gosnell was doing is already illegal. If you'd visit him in prison, he could tell you himself.)
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    MikeDamone said:

    Crime rates to soar in 16 years since it’s well known abortion keeps the population down of those groups who proportionately commit more crimes.

    Feels like a Bob strawman ass fucking comment should be coming very soon. I will await with bated breath.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    SFGbob said:

    The Alabama Senate passed a bill Tuesday evening to ban nearly all abortions. The state House had already overwhelmingly approved the legislation. It's part of a broader anti-abortion strategy to prompt the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider the right to abortion.

    It would be one of the most restrictive abortion bans in the United States. The bill would make it a crime for doctors to perform abortions at any stage of a pregnancy, unless a woman's life is threatened or in case of a lethal fetal anomaly.

    The vote was 25-6, with one abstention.

    Doctors in the state would face felony jail time up to 99 years if convicted. But a woman would not be held criminally liable for having an abortion.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/05/14/723312937/alabama-lawmakers-passes-abortion-ban


    Gas bags are going to gas bag.

    I think they call that a difference without a distinction. Or maybe it's the other way around.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Spare me with your morality. Although @creepycoug would be pleased that they took a TUFF stand and no half measures.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-law-roe-v-wade/index.html


    It's what should have happened with this issue from the beginning. If California wants to make abortion legal they should have the ability to do so. And if the voters of Alabama want to outlaw abortion they should have ability to do so.

    What if one state, say, wants to make it ok to segregate kids into separate schools based on race. I know it's a cooky theory and would never happen in the US, but what if? Doesn't that seem like the sort of thing about which that the United States of American should be unified? Or are regional differences that important? Just asking the question.
    No because we don't allow laws to be based upon race unless it's affirmative action and then liberals are cool with it.

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    RaceBannon said:

    In 18 years when Bama is still kicking our ass in football you'll know why

    @CirrhosisDawg is a big fan of state's rights. Pretty sure he is on board with Alabama

    It would be funny if after 50 years of scare tactics something happened after all

    My advice is for both sides to calm down. Keep it safe and legal in the first trimester. Ease off the after birth abortion agenda.

    Every action has a reaction.

    My early line has the Surpemes upholding Roe thanks to Kavenaugh. Too bad the democrats want to impeach him

    that seems to be out the window in Bamers.

    I agree with that approach though, and that prediction.
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