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I miss the Nebraska classy gentlemen’s club

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edited May 2019 in Tug Tavern
Biden harkens back to an era when politics was a gentleman's club for Democrats and Republicans to pal around while having intellectual disagreements on policy. It was easy for Biden to call Vice President Mike Pence "a decent guy," and he often refers to his Republican friends. But people have grown impatient with calls to reach across the aisle simply for the sake of bipartisanship; those who use their power to systematically deny women and minorities their basic rights are not "decent" people. While Biden defaults to assuming decency in politicians like Pence, we need politicians to prove they believe in their constituents' basic humanity.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/05/10/opinions/biden-best-and-worst-of-his-generation-haq/index.html?r=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    What basic rights are being denied to women and minorities?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,793
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    SFGbob said:

    What basic rights are being denied to women and minorities?

    I’m not agreeing with the author. I just liked the quote about the gentlemen’s club.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    SFGbob said:

    What basic rights are being denied to women and minorities?

    I’m not agreeing with the author. I just liked the quote.
    I figured you weren't but it is a question I wish the author would have answered. That's a claim I hear all the time and whenever you ask them to identify what these basic rights are that are being denied you don't get much of an answer.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,793
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    What basic rights are being denied to women and minorities?

    I’m not agreeing with the author. I just liked the quote.
    I figured you weren't but it is a question I wish the author would have answered. That's a claim I hear all the time and whenever you ask them to identify what these basic rights are that are being denied you don't get much of an answer.
    Well I suspect for those on the far left, unless we get to a place of nearly equal outcomes across population groups they will continue to scream discrimination and racism.
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    SFGbob said:

    What basic rights are being denied to women and minorities?

    I’m not agreeing with the author. I just liked the quote about the gentlemen’s club.
    It would make a good name for a HH forum
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,676
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    SFGbob said:

    What basic rights are being denied to women and minorities?

    I’m not agreeing with the author. I just liked the quote about the gentlemen’s club.
    It would make a good name for a HH forum
    How?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,687
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    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    Or that Republicans want to put blacks back in chains.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,676
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    SFGbob said:

    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    Or that Republicans want to put blacks back in chains.
    Republicans got blacks OUT of chains.

    Hope this helps.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    pawz said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    Or that Republicans want to put blacks back in chains.
    Republicans got blacks OUT of chains.

    Hope this helps.
    "Nazis were socialists, it's in their name" POTD
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    BearsWiin said:

    pawz said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    Or that Republicans want to put blacks back in chains.
    Republicans got blacks OUT of chains.

    Hope this helps.
    "Nazis were socialists, it's in their name" POTD
    They certainly weren't capitalists and they weren't conservatives.

    Nazi ideologist Gregor Strasser proclaimed:

    We are socialists. We are enemies, deadly enemies, of today’s capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, its unfair wage system, its immoral way of judging the worth of human beings in terms of their wealth and their money, instead of their responsibility and their performance, and we are determined to destroy this system whatever happens!
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    BearsWiin said:

    Strasser, lol

    Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed the point.


    Was Strasser a Nazi? Yes or no?
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Strasser, lol

    Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed the point.


    Was Strasser a Nazi? Yes or no?
    WAS LINCOLN A REPUBLICAN IRESTMYCASE. Ha owned lib

    Dude do you even history
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Strasser, lol

    Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed the point.


    Was Strasser a Nazi? Yes or no?
    WAS LINCOLN A REPUBLICAN IRESTMYCASE. Ha owned lib

    Dude do you even history
    If you had Lincoln saying that he supported slavery and wanted to expand it the North it would be kind of ridiculous to say the Republicans opposed slavery.

    Yes Strasser was later murdered by the Nazis, just as Trotsky was murdered by Stalin. That didn't mean that Trotsky wasn't a Communist and Strasser's murder doesn't mean he wasn't a Nazi.



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    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    Politics is an unseemly bidness and Dems and Republicans have been talking shit to each other since the 1850s. Even Nebraska classy Poppy Bush had Willie Horton. But I think Donnie has taken the shit talking to an unprecedented level for the modern era. I’m sure many a GOP senator would still have lunch or a cocktail with Creepy Uncle Joe. Doubtful this is the case with Donnie. We still need the Reagan / Tip O’ Neil dynamic to get REAL big deals done. Obama sucked at it. So does Trump this far.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,687
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    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    I'm not sure that Biden claiming the GOP wants to return to Jim Crow is a gentleman thing

    Some could call it divisive

    Just kidding he's a Democrat

    Politics is an unseemly bidness and Dems and Republicans have been talking shit to each other since the 1850s. Even Nebraska classy Poppy Bush had Willie Horton. But I think Donnie has taken the shit talking to an unprecedented level for the modern era. I’m sure many a GOP senator would still have lunch or a cocktail with Creepy Uncle Joe. Doubtful this is the case with Donnie. We still need the Reagan / Tip O’ Neil dynamic to get REAL big deals done. Obama sucked at it. So does Trump this far.
    And so does Biden

    I reject the entire false narrative

    Gore had Willie Horton which kind of proves my point.

    GOP says something its divisive and a threat to the nation

    Democrat says it everyone does it and TRUMP

    Trump doesn't take the bullshit. Nor do I.

    Make stupid accusations you get called on it.

    Pelosi and Schumer suck at working with Trump.

    Takes two. A kindergarten lesson

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    Willie Horton was a convicted murder who was allowed weekend furloughs from the Massachusetts state prison system. On one of these weekend furloughs he raped a woman an stabbed her boyfriend. Dukakis was the Governor of Massachusetts who's primary selling point as a candidate was his self-professed claim of being an uber smart and effective Governor. Letting convicted murders out of prison with weekend passes was a stupid policy. And Dukakis was rightly criticized for it, and Race is right, Gore was the first candidate to do so.


    Just like the left is now trying to do to Trump with "Charlottesville" they tried to do to Bush with Willie Horton. It's another one of those left-wing lies that gets repeated over and over again until we all start to believe the Willie Horton Ad was "racist" and that Palin really did say she could see Alaska from her house. Politics ain't bean bag and there was nothing fucking wrong with that Ad and Dukakis should have been held accountable for that ridiculous furlough program.


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