Seattle's economic policies are creating bigger problems for residents
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On the market: Seattle condo, 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, renovated patio, garage, shit-free sidewalk. 330kgreenblood said:
You have high standards up there. From the looks of it, living large in Seattle, is living in an area with no shit on the sidewalk.Baphomet said:
I didn't say there is no issue, I said there is no shit on my sidewalks, and there isn't shit on the sidewalks in most of Seattle.YellowSnow said:
What magical happyland part of Seattle do you live in fren where you don’t notice the issue?Baphomet said:People in this thread bitching on shit on the sidewalks sound poor. There isn't any shit on the sidewalks in my neighborhood. The shit on the sidewalks is overblown. I walked around parts of DT Seattle for a meeting on Thursday -- didn't see any shit on the sidewalks there either.
To the people that want to try what Bellevue is trying... how about this. We move the King County jail from Seattle to Bellevue, so when all the drug users are released from jail -- they are released onto Bellevue's streets instead of Seattle's.
Oh, and Amazon isn't moving to Bellevue, they are relocating one or two groups there. They are still hiring in Seattle and I bet total headcount in Seattle will be larger than total headcount in Bellevue for the next 4 decades.
The software devs that live on the East Side live there because they aren't as good as the Software devs that live in Seattle.
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Living in Bellevue isn’t Nirvana, it has its own set of problems, but I do appreciate the city government seems to have more common sense (at least for now). It’s my understanding that they leverage the existing system of religious organizations’ outreach programs and support for the homeless. Those programs put a big emphasis on getting people into people into permanent housing.YellowSnow said:
I pay like $7K or $8k a year in property taxes a year in Seattle as a home owner. I’ve got pot holes up the ying yang and bums camping within .25 miles of my home. Bellevue seems like Nirvana in comparison and I’d never thought I’d say that.HHusky said:
I guess I never realized what a nirvana Bellevue is. Why don't people from Bellevue agree?YellowSnow said:
Bellevue doesn’t have shit all over their side walks. Why can’t we try what they’re doing?HHusky said:
Which Seattle politician advocates people shit in the streets? I’m not voting for that.Pitchfork51 said:
....Not shit in the streets?HHusky said:
We’re listening.Pitchfork51 said:when they could easily be better
https://www.bellevuedowntown.com/post/recap-responding-to-homelessness-in-bellevue
Petty crime is also less tolerated (people here are freaked out about their home values going down). -
I haven’t seen any human shit (though a friend of mine who just came back from San Francisco did), but I’ve seen people taking a piss on the sidewalks, used syringes/needles, used condoms, and various items covered in blood.2001400ex said:Who in this thread has actually seen human shit on the street or sidewalks in Seattle?
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I have. As usual, you're wrong again.2001400ex said:Who in this thread has actually seen human shit on the street or sidewalks in Seattle?
I lived in Belltown for 3 years - next to a pea patch. Hi Harv!
One of the worst stories was walking down First, and seeing a homeless guy walking toward me and in mid-stride, unzip and start spraying the sidewalk. Didn't miss a step.
Unlike you who would have accepted the golden shower with glee, I moved far wide-right.
Thankfully, I now call West Bellevue home. -
I was talking about San Francisco since someone mentioned all the super liberal west coast cities are heading down the same path.
Homeless and needles and whatnot falls into the same category. There's no need to get hung up on the shit. -
I don't live in downtown Seattle, but I'm there a couple times a year. While I don't doubt you've seen that. In all my years, I've never seen any of that in Seattle. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I just wonder if stories like this get overblown. Seattle is one of the most successful cities the last few years in terms of growth. Many young families moving into town and neighborhoods being rebuilt that were once ghettos.Doog_de_Jour said:
I haven’t seen any human shit (though a friend of mine who just came back from San Francisco did), but I’ve seen people taking a piss on the sidewalks, used syringes/needles, used condoms, and various items covered in blood.2001400ex said:Who in this thread has actually seen human shit on the street or sidewalks in Seattle?
I guess I'm saying, don't you think this is the "labor participation rate" of the 2010s expansion? -
That’s Big Government for ya. And why the Dems are addicted to it.greenblood said:Seattle is a shit hole. Water is wet. So is Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and the other 90% of the 100k+ populated cities along the west coast.
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Mostly agree, except on the timeline. Seattle’s deadbeat Democrats have ruined the City in less than a decade. Seriously. Nobody from the Neighborhoods go downtown anymore, other than to work.Pitchfork51 said:The worst argument the leftists have is "if it's so bad then why do people want to live there?" when talking about shit like this
1. It's a good location which no amount of political fuckery can change
2. It's been developed over like 200 years and would take another hundred to really fuck up
3. People are annoyed that leftist policies are actively making things worse when they could easily be better -
Billy, Billy, Billy....Stop with the rational thinking. In the mind of your far-Left Seattle Democrat, more drug addicts and homeless means more ammo in the war on Capitalism, which they suck at.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's all solvable and these virtue signaling politicians don't do anything. That's why people get angry.
Stop handing out free shit and needles, or at least do it with a stipulation that you can't commit crime.
Actually enforce laws, or allow cops to. Sorry if you're homeless. I've been pour too at times. It doesn't give anyone a free pass.
The economic stuff is more complicated, but the head tax seems dumb. I don't have a problem with taxing the rich more in general -
Just another example of how the religious left forces their values on the rest of us.PurpleThrobber said:
If you actually watched the KOMO documentary, there was a lengthy segment on the hand cuffs (pun intended) that the Council has put on the SPD in enforcing the laws. The City Council doesn't want enforcement nor does the mayor.HHusky said:
Who should do it? The SPD can barely respond to anything that doesn't involve immediate injury anymore.USMChawk said:
Holding people accountable to existing laws isn’t getting tougher on them, it’s enforcing a standard.HHusky said:
So just get tougher on people. I'm surprised no one thought of that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's all solvable and these virtue signaling politicians don't do anything. That's why people get angry.
Stop handing out free shit and needles, or at least do it with a stipulation that you can't commit crime.
Actually enforce laws, or allow cops to. Sorry if you're homeless. I've been pour too at times. It doesn't give anyone a free pass.
The economic stuff is more complicated, but the head tax seems dumb. I don't have a problem with taxing the rich more in general
It's almost like some of you think more government is the answer, but that can't be true.
