Seattle's economic policies are creating bigger problems for residents
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If you're not going to enforce the laws, you don't need a lot of law enforcement.HHusky said:
Regardless, the force has gotten smaller as a the City has grown. At some point, it doesn't matter what they're allowed to do. There aren't enough of them to do it.PurpleThrobber said:
If you actually watched the KOMO documentary, there was a lengthy segment on the hand cuffs (pun intended) that the Council has put on the SPD in enforcing the laws. The City Council doesn't want enforcement nor does the mayor.HHusky said:
Who should do it? The SPD can barely respond to anything that doesn't involve immediate injury anymore.USMChawk said:
Holding people accountable to existing laws isn’t getting tougher on them, it’s enforcing a standard.HHusky said:
So just get tougher on people. I'm surprised no one thought of that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's all solvable and these virtue signaling politicians don't do anything. That's why people get angry.
Stop handing out free shit and needles, or at least do it with a stipulation that you can't commit crime.
Actually enforce laws, or allow cops to. Sorry if you're homeless. I've been pour too at times. It doesn't give anyone a free pass.
The economic stuff is more complicated, but the head tax seems dumb. I don't have a problem with taxing the rich more in general
It's almost like some of you think more government is the answer, but that can't be true.
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More jails still sounds like more government to me.PurpleThrobber said:
If you're not going to enforce the laws, you don't need a lot of law enforcement.HHusky said:
Regardless, the force has gotten smaller as a the City has grown. At some point, it doesn't matter what they're allowed to do. There aren't enough of them to do it.PurpleThrobber said:
If you actually watched the KOMO documentary, there was a lengthy segment on the hand cuffs (pun intended) that the Council has put on the SPD in enforcing the laws. The City Council doesn't want enforcement nor does the mayor.HHusky said:
Who should do it? The SPD can barely respond to anything that doesn't involve immediate injury anymore.USMChawk said:
Holding people accountable to existing laws isn’t getting tougher on them, it’s enforcing a standard.HHusky said:
So just get tougher on people. I'm surprised no one thought of that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's all solvable and these virtue signaling politicians don't do anything. That's why people get angry.
Stop handing out free shit and needles, or at least do it with a stipulation that you can't commit crime.
Actually enforce laws, or allow cops to. Sorry if you're homeless. I've been pour too at times. It doesn't give anyone a free pass.
The economic stuff is more complicated, but the head tax seems dumb. I don't have a problem with taxing the rich more in general
It's almost like some of you think more government is the answer, but that can't be true. -
You need to have your hearing checked.HHusky said:
More jails still sounds like more government to me.PurpleThrobber said:
If you're not going to enforce the laws, you don't need a lot of law enforcement.HHusky said:
Regardless, the force has gotten smaller as a the City has grown. At some point, it doesn't matter what they're allowed to do. There aren't enough of them to do it.PurpleThrobber said:
If you actually watched the KOMO documentary, there was a lengthy segment on the hand cuffs (pun intended) that the Council has put on the SPD in enforcing the laws. The City Council doesn't want enforcement nor does the mayor.HHusky said:
Who should do it? The SPD can barely respond to anything that doesn't involve immediate injury anymore.USMChawk said:
Holding people accountable to existing laws isn’t getting tougher on them, it’s enforcing a standard.HHusky said:
So just get tougher on people. I'm surprised no one thought of that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's all solvable and these virtue signaling politicians don't do anything. That's why people get angry.
Stop handing out free shit and needles, or at least do it with a stipulation that you can't commit crime.
Actually enforce laws, or allow cops to. Sorry if you're homeless. I've been pour too at times. It doesn't give anyone a free pass.
The economic stuff is more complicated, but the head tax seems dumb. I don't have a problem with taxing the rich more in general
It's almost like some of you think more government is the answer, but that can't be true.
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I can get that response from my wife.PurpleThrobber said:
You need to have your hearing checked.HHusky said:
More jails still sounds like more government to me.PurpleThrobber said:
If you're not going to enforce the laws, you don't need a lot of law enforcement.HHusky said:
Regardless, the force has gotten smaller as a the City has grown. At some point, it doesn't matter what they're allowed to do. There aren't enough of them to do it.PurpleThrobber said:
If you actually watched the KOMO documentary, there was a lengthy segment on the hand cuffs (pun intended) that the Council has put on the SPD in enforcing the laws. The City Council doesn't want enforcement nor does the mayor.HHusky said:
Who should do it? The SPD can barely respond to anything that doesn't involve immediate injury anymore.USMChawk said:
Holding people accountable to existing laws isn’t getting tougher on them, it’s enforcing a standard.HHusky said:
So just get tougher on people. I'm surprised no one thought of that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's all solvable and these virtue signaling politicians don't do anything. That's why people get angry.
Stop handing out free shit and needles, or at least do it with a stipulation that you can't commit crime.
Actually enforce laws, or allow cops to. Sorry if you're homeless. I've been pour too at times. It doesn't give anyone a free pass.
The economic stuff is more complicated, but the head tax seems dumb. I don't have a problem with taxing the rich more in general
It's almost like some of you think more government is the answer, but that can't be true.
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People in this thread bitching on shit on the sidewalks sound poor. There isn't any shit on the sidewalks in my neighborhood. The shit on the sidewalks is overblown. I walked around parts of DT Seattle for a meeting on Thursday -- didn't see any shit on the sidewalks there either.
To the people that want to try what Bellevue is trying... how about this. We move the King County jail from Seattle to Bellevue, so when all the drug users are released from jail -- they are released onto Bellevue's streets instead of Seattle's.
Oh, and Amazon isn't moving to Bellevue, they are relocating one or two groups there. They are still hiring in Seattle and I bet total headcount in Seattle will be larger than total headcount in Bellevue for the next 4 decades.
The software devs that live on the East Side live there because they aren't as good as the Software devs that live in Seattle.
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What magical happyland part of Seattle do you live in fren where you don’t notice the issue?Baphomet said:People in this thread bitching on shit on the sidewalks sound poor. There isn't any shit on the sidewalks in my neighborhood. The shit on the sidewalks is overblown. I walked around parts of DT Seattle for a meeting on Thursday -- didn't see any shit on the sidewalks there either.
To the people that want to try what Bellevue is trying... how about this. We move the King County jail from Seattle to Bellevue, so when all the drug users are released from jail -- they are released onto Bellevue's streets instead of Seattle's.
Oh, and Amazon isn't moving to Bellevue, they are relocating one or two groups there. They are still hiring in Seattle and I bet total headcount in Seattle will be larger than total headcount in Bellevue for the next 4 decades.
The software devs that live on the East Side live there because they aren't as good as the Software devs that live in Seattle. -
I didn't say there is no issue, I said there is no shit on my sidewalks, and there isn't shit on the sidewalks in most of Seattle.YellowSnow said:
What magical happyland part of Seattle do you live in fren where you don’t notice the issue?Baphomet said:People in this thread bitching on shit on the sidewalks sound poor. There isn't any shit on the sidewalks in my neighborhood. The shit on the sidewalks is overblown. I walked around parts of DT Seattle for a meeting on Thursday -- didn't see any shit on the sidewalks there either.
To the people that want to try what Bellevue is trying... how about this. We move the King County jail from Seattle to Bellevue, so when all the drug users are released from jail -- they are released onto Bellevue's streets instead of Seattle's.
Oh, and Amazon isn't moving to Bellevue, they are relocating one or two groups there. They are still hiring in Seattle and I bet total headcount in Seattle will be larger than total headcount in Bellevue for the next 4 decades.
The software devs that live on the East Side live there because they aren't as good as the Software devs that live in Seattle.
And as I wrote, move KC Jail to Bellevue, and they'll have more of the other issues.
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New Seattle slogan?YellowSnow said:
Bellevue doesn’t have shit all over their side walks. Why can’t we try what they’re doing?HHusky said:
Which Seattle politician advocates people shit in the streets? I’m not voting for that.Pitchfork51 said:
....Not shit in the streets?HHusky said:
We’re listening.Pitchfork51 said:when they could easily be better
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Who in this thread has actually seen human shit on the street or sidewalks in Seattle?
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You have high standards up there. From the looks of it, living large in Seattle, is living in an area with no shit on the sidewalk.Baphomet said:
I didn't say there is no issue, I said there is no shit on my sidewalks, and there isn't shit on the sidewalks in most of Seattle.YellowSnow said:
What magical happyland part of Seattle do you live in fren where you don’t notice the issue?Baphomet said:People in this thread bitching on shit on the sidewalks sound poor. There isn't any shit on the sidewalks in my neighborhood. The shit on the sidewalks is overblown. I walked around parts of DT Seattle for a meeting on Thursday -- didn't see any shit on the sidewalks there either.
To the people that want to try what Bellevue is trying... how about this. We move the King County jail from Seattle to Bellevue, so when all the drug users are released from jail -- they are released onto Bellevue's streets instead of Seattle's.
Oh, and Amazon isn't moving to Bellevue, they are relocating one or two groups there. They are still hiring in Seattle and I bet total headcount in Seattle will be larger than total headcount in Bellevue for the next 4 decades.
The software devs that live on the East Side live there because they aren't as good as the Software devs that live in Seattle.
And as I wrote, move KC Jail to Bellevue, and they'll have more of the other issues.
