The left hates debates because current doctrine is a collapsing house of cards
HTH
Yep. When Bernie and AOC are the figure heads of your party you have no shot.
It's okay to say capitalism is better than socialism. It's okay to reward small to medium business size as opposed to penalizing them. It's okay to say while our history is filled with horrid actions but reparations aren't the way to heal those wounds. It's okay to tell people welfare is not a way of life but temporary assistance. It's okay to say border security is a serious issue and needs to be addressed.
Instead, AOC uses hot button issues to rile the base which she condemns Donald of doing to his base. She is no different. She is a total clown.
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Is this a joke?
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end.
I'm not a fan of Current Affairs as a publication, and I recently elsewhere derided an article of theirs written by an unabashed Bernie bro who wanted to do a hit piece on Mayor Pete. But that article pegged Shapiro. If you read it, he doesn't hate him, but he was wondering why so many on the right take him seriously as an intellectual when nothing about him is actually intellectual. He's just an aggressive fast-talking provocateur with good debate skills. There's obviously a market for that in this environment, and it's cool that his followers can listen to his twaddle and buy energy drinks and prepper food all from the same website
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Is this a joke?
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end.
I'm not a fan of Current Affairs as a publication, and I recently elsewhere derided an article of theirs written by an unabashed Bernie bro who wanted to do a hit piece on Mayor Pete. But that article pegged Shapiro. If you read it, he doesn't hate him, but he was wondering why so many on the right take him seriously as an intellectual when nothing about him is actually intellectual. He's just an aggressive fast-talking provocateur with good debate skills. There's obviously a market for that in this environment, and it's cool that his followers can listen to his twaddle and buy energy drinks and prepper food all from the same website
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.
You don’t hate liberals, you hate progressives; it’s the difference between conservatives and alt-right.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.
There's just so much to loathe from the left right now. The SJW / Identity Politics is going to continue to lose them elections.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.
There's just so much to loathe from the left right now. The SJW / Identity Politics is going to continue to lose them elections.
Exactly. There's still a lot of Homophobic people out there who hate people who are different. And hate assholes. And being an asshole is currently in vogue.
The left hates debates because current doctrine is a collapsing house of cards
HTH
Yep. When Bernie and AOC are the figure heads of your party you have no shot.
It's okay to say capitalism is better than socialism. It's okay to reward small to medium business size as opposed to penalizing them. It's okay to say while our history is filled with horrid actions but reparations aren't the way to heal those wounds. It's okay to tell people welfare is not a way of life but temporary assistance. It's okay to say border security is a serious issue and needs to be addressed.
Instead, AOC uses hot button issues to rile the base which she condemns Donald of doing to his base. She is no different. She is a total clown.
“My ideal candidate is someone who tells their voters that the things they want that are popular are actually dumb and unrealistic! I’m the smart politics person and you should listen to me.”
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.
Actually I am
You and @MikeDamone are both welcome in my liberal party.
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It's okay to say capitalism is better than socialism. It's okay to reward small to medium business size as opposed to penalizing them. It's okay to say while our history is filled with horrid actions but reparations aren't the way to heal those wounds. It's okay to tell people welfare is not a way of life but temporary assistance. It's okay to say border security is a serious issue and needs to be addressed.
Instead, AOC uses hot button issues to rile the base which she condemns Donald of doing to his base. She is no different. She is a total clown.