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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club
    The underlying grounds or obstruction was a media report that Trump was "thinking about" firing Mueller

    Gee wonder why that couldn't be proven

    Trump was exonerated. Eat shit

    You got your fucking investigation and it didn't prove shit so take it like a man for once in your lives
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334

    The underlying grounds or obstruction was a media report that Trump was "thinking about" firing Mueller

    Gee wonder why that couldn't be proven

    Trump was exonerated. Eat shit

    You got your fucking investigation and it didn't prove shit so take it like a man for once in your lives

    It was only 4 pages, Race. You couldn't be troubled to read it?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    The underlying grounds or obstruction was a media report that Trump was "thinking about" firing Mueller

    Gee wonder why that couldn't be proven

    Trump was exonerated. Eat shit

    You got your fucking investigation and it didn't prove shit so take it like a man for once in your lives

    It was only 4 pages, Race. You couldn't be troubled to read it?
    Who says I didn't?

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,570 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    So both Mueller and Barr are in on the cover up. Got it.

    According to mueller and Barr, was trump exonerated on obstruction of justice allegations Bob?

    "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."

    Read for comprehension.
    Indeed. The Mueller Report is quoted in Barr's letter. How did you miss that?
    How did you miss there is not and never was a crime. Therefore no criminal investigation or charge exists that can be obstructed. You can't obstruct nothing because nothing should never be investigated.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    So both Mueller and Barr are in on the cover up. Got it.

    According to mueller and Barr, was trump exonerated on obstruction of justice allegations Bob?

    "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."

    Read for comprehension.
    Indeed. The Mueller Report is quoted in Barr's letter. How did you miss that?
    How did you miss there is not and never was a crime. Therefore no criminal investigation or charge exists that can be obstructed. You can't obstruct nothing because nothing should never be investigated.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,570 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    So both Mueller and Barr are in on the cover up. Got it.

    According to mueller and Barr, was trump exonerated on obstruction of justice allegations Bob?

    "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."

    Read for comprehension.
    Indeed. The Mueller Report is quoted in Barr's letter. How did you miss that?
    How did you miss there is not and never was a crime. Therefore no criminal investigation or charge exists that can be obstructed. You can't obstruct nothing because nothing should never be investigated.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
    Prove me wrong.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    So both Mueller and Barr are in on the cover up. Got it.

    According to mueller and Barr, was trump exonerated on obstruction of justice allegations Bob?

    "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."

    Read for comprehension.
    Indeed. The Mueller Report is quoted in Barr's letter. How did you miss that?
    How did you miss there is not and never was a crime. Therefore no criminal investigation or charge exists that can be obstructed. You can't obstruct nothing because nothing should never be investigated.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
    Prove me wrong.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334
    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    He doesn't know what explicitly means. So I'll add that the memo clearly stated they are not exonerating Trump.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club
    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America