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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    I mean as long as we recognize AOC she will be in the spotlight.

    I don’t understand the rights infatuation with AOC. She is a nobody whom the right put in the national spotlight by the right. I imagine it’s because she is a young black woman. If she were a white male or female than she would not be recognized by the right as much.

    She has no clue what she is doing and is a nobody. But honestly I would rather have here is office than another old white male and female who think they know what’s best for people half their age.

    All minorities look alike POTD.
    Great catch.

    I missed it. Cause I fell asleep half way through that poast.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    Show me a communist country that works. I'll wait.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,861
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    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    Show me a communist country that works. I'll wait.
    Inyourfuckingdreamsistan.

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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    True communism will never work because some people (me) are a lot more intelligent than others (you) and I’d never agree to a system where my business and electrician skills are paid the same as your booger-eating skills of sitting at home. Plus, someone is alway going to rule and live better, as has been shown every time Marxism has been the form of government in any society.
    You are, by far, the dumbest poster on this board.

    Irony Meters Everywhere.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    How many 50 gallon barrels of Communist Kool-Aid have you guzzled?

    Yes, I've read slave accounts. Good thing the US fought a civil war to end it, isn't it?

    Yes, I've read Native American accounts. Including the menacing brutality of Comanchees, including murdering and enslaving children of tribes they slaughtered and ran off the plains.

    The New World wasn't one big orgy of peace and love before whitey arrived, chump. Crack a fucking book once in awhile.

    What about Russian Imperialism? French Imperialism? Spanish Imperialism? Japanese Imperialism? British Imperialism? Chinese and Indian Imperialism? Mongolian Imperialism? Turkish Genocide? Russian Communist genocide? Is the point registering yet?

    Capitalism as an economic system is the closest thing to fairness and meritocracy the world has ever seen, despite the ludicrous wealth of people at the top. Communism does the same thing, via party rank of official, family ties, or ties to historical dynasties.

    He who has the gold makes the rules. You may think it sucks and that capitalism is the worst economic system in the world, and maybe it is, except for all the others.
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    This, too, should be on the Finance board, but I'll allow it.

    Here's what I think:

    1. There is an interesting academic discussion to be had about Marxism. A small amount of what you have said would be relevant in that discussion.

    2. The most charitable read of communism is that it's a concept well before its time. That is, there may be a day when technology and human-knowledge is such that we have essentially eradicated scarcity w/o the need for market forces, are able to allocate resources perfectly, again w/o market forces, and basic human culture has evolved to a degree such that some of the basic individual motivators for innovation and value creation are not longer important and thus no longer ... given effect. My read of Marxist theory is more along those lines. If it ever happens, we probably won't really connect it back to Marx and it will be so long from now that it's really just good academic discourse ... exercise for the mind.

    3. This isn't the place to have that kind of discussion.

    4. As a practical matter, it's a waste of time to defend because it has failed so miserably.
    I think this is fair. I actually refer to myself as socialist and not communist because I think it’s so far off and so much will change, no matter what direction we go in, it’s not even worth labeling it.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    Its my money
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,595
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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    People open businesses in places with low taxes dipshit. People don't generally mind paying a bit more if they get something in return but all the higher tax places are turning into shitholes.


    Spoiler
    People don't like paying high prices to live near ghetto poor people, illegals, and homeless.
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    Its my money
    It’s not.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,809
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    This, too, should be on the Finance board, but I'll allow it.

    Here's what I think:

    1. There is an interesting academic discussion to be had about Marxism. A small amount of what you have said would be relevant in that discussion.

    2. The most charitable read of communism is that it's a concept well before its time. That is, there may be a day when technology and human-knowledge is such that we have essentially eradicated scarcity w/o the need for market forces, are able to allocate resources perfectly, again w/o market forces, and basic human culture has evolved to a degree such that some of the basic individual motivators for innovation and value creation are not longer important and thus no longer ... given effect. My read of Marxist theory is more along those lines. If it ever happens, we probably won't really connect it back to Marx and it will be so long from now that it's really just good academic discourse ... exercise for the mind.

    3. This isn't the place to have that kind of discussion.

    4. As a practical matter, it's a waste of time to defend because it has failed so miserably.
    I think this is fair. I actually refer to myself as socialist and not communist because I think it’s so far off and so much will change, no matter what direction we go in, it’s not even worth labeling it.
    No difference dipshit.
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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    Its my money
    It’s not.
    Try to take it
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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    Its my money
    It’s not.
    Try to take it

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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    Its my money
    Race gets it.
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    You’re still stuck in a 1619 project, middle school level world view. Communism is far worse and more terrifying than any system. Hey guess what, in the history of the world there have been shitty things that happened, so that means capitalism is bad and we need to replace it with something worse that has failed everywhere! Deflect all you want, no one enjoys living under the boot of communism.
    Scratch a KobeSlobberer, find a commie fascist. I have no interest in the KobeSlobberer's life, he has a great interest in mine and yours.
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    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    No quarrel. But in the spirit of the honesty you've displayed, can we stop pretending people are just dying to create jobs with their tax cuts?
    People open businesses in places with low taxes dipshit. People don't generally mind paying a bit more if they get something in return but all the higher tax places are turning into shitholes.


    Spoiler
    People don't like paying high prices to live near ghetto poor people, illegals, and homeless.
    You mean LeBron doesn't live in Detroit or Cleveland?
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    You’re still stuck in a 1619 project, middle school level world view. Communism is far worse and more terrifying than any system. Hey guess what, in the history of the world there have been shitty things that happened, so that means capitalism is bad and we need to replace it with something worse that has failed everywhere! Deflect all you want, no one enjoys living under the boot of communism.
    Scratch a KobeSlobberer, find a commie fascist. I have no interest in the KobeSlobberer's life, he has a great interest in mine and yours.
    SJWs love to meddle in their family's and what friends's (what friends they have) lives. They love to project their shortcummings and failures onto others and correct any non p.c. "hate speech" they see.
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    You’re still stuck in a 1619 project, middle school level world view. Communism is far worse and more terrifying than any system. Hey guess what, in the history of the world there have been shitty things that happened, so that means capitalism is bad and we need to replace it with something worse that has failed everywhere! Deflect all you want, no one enjoys living under the boot of communism.
    Scratch a KobeSlobberer, find a commie fascist. I have no interest in the KobeSlobberer's life, he has a great interest in mine and yours.
    SJWs love to meddle in their family's and what friends's (what friends they have) lives. They love to project their shortcummings and failures onto others and correct any non p.c. "hate speech" they see.
    @TheKobeStopper is a declared Socialist, which means he wants, and is entitled to, what you have without having to work just as hard for it. And he'll call that equity, not equality. Equality left the building long ago. And he'll cite some historic grievance of which he had no part of to justify why he should actually get more than you. My money is on race, even though he's likely argued in the past that race is a social construct created by white people to control and exploit others, so it's bad when whites rely on it for anything, but just fine and dandy for anyone of color to use as a club or a swipe card.

    Socialists don't understand that working hard at life is how you get better at it. They'd rather spend all their time trying to coerce the re-engineering of society so it favors them, versus people who actually create, innovate and improve the lives of everyone. If @TheKobeStopper put half the effort into improving his life as he does bitching about it, he'd be amazed how much better off he'd be.

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink.
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    Got to love how slavery according to this dumbass, is something that was a by-product of capitalism.
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    SFGbob said:

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    I don’t think today is the day you want to throw hands with the queen.





    If she dropped that green old deal bullshit she would someday be more than a congressperson from Brooklyn. If she believes it and is willing to die on that hill that's her call. But it is political suicide

    We are seeing today that Cruz / AOC mind meld that could have been a daily event had you not chosen so poorly last November. Nobody knows better how billionaires game the system than an alleged billionaire who gamed the system for 40 years. Your original instinct to go Trump was correct. You got waylaid by the noise just like they wanted you to.

    I don't like Cruz but he is getting himself at the front of the line. Since I am not a teen girl I would vote for him even if he is @creepycoug looking.

    Hell I'd vote for AOC over most of the shit out there now
    Trump had four years and didn’t do shit about billionaires rigging anything. They got those tax cuts though.
    So did the American working class. Record low unemployment in February 2020 and you blame Trump. Keep rooting for the commies.
    Record low unemployment, stock market booming.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

    I am the commies, dumb fuck, and there isn’t a single commie in Washington to root for.
    Why aren't there any commies to vote for? Weird.
    Because the United States government engaged in decades of propaganda against communism. I’d say that’s the single biggest reason. That’s why you see Boomers and Gen Xers just calling random shit they don’t like communism. They were taught communism bad, capitalism good so anything they don’t like is communism and anything they like is capitalism.
    So I guess it’s just a marketing problem? If only people had not bad mouthed communism, it would have worked out.
    I think simplifying propaganda down to “marketing” is really stupid. While there’s obviously a connection, teaching people that something is evil so they don’t sympathize with a country you’re at war with isn’t like selling a bag of Cheetos.
    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    Got to love how slavery according to this dumbass, is something that was a by-product of capitalism.
    @TheKobeStopper just hasn't caught up to the latest and greatest phraseology - Chattel Slavery is all the rage. Because, well, that's what happened in America so it's awful. Mean white people AAARGGH.

    Other than the fact that, like, it's pretty much just an African thing and non-existent in wealthier developed countries like the United States.

    https://borgenproject.org/eight-facts-chattel-slavery/



    The more you know.


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