Coaching doesn't matter if the talent, depth, and/or experience you have at that position sucks. Budda and Sidney got torched as true Freshman. Did Lake not know what he was doing then and yet we still sucked. It's a similar situation at safety right now. I have a strong feeling Gilchrist sucks ass. We are fucked at free safety if it's either Gilchrist or a Freshman starting for us. Obviously Lake fucked up somewhere recruiting that position because we don't have a RS Junior, sure fire, future NFL stud to replace Rapp that nobody is worried about.
Things change all the time. The likelihood of Cam Williams basically coming in and playing like Taylor Rapp did as a true Freshman was extremely low. But that's what he's done so far so we're extremely lucky and dodged a bullet. Good for us. The point stands. We were fucked until we got lucky.
Alright, I'm going to actually defend Ballz on this one.
Process vs. Results
It's shitty process to rely on a Freshman to come in and play like a game changer even if we ended up with good results this time(which is still TBD btw).
We should have at least 2 guys of Cam Williams level talent battling it out for the open starting spot and they both should have already been in the program a year, redshirt or otherwise.
Though I also realize there are some mitigating factors that you can defend the process from but there is a reasonable poont of criticism buried in there.
Except Ballz was complaining about results of a cake halfway through baking.
He had no complaints about the process of making that cake (recruiting of safeties.)
In fact in the Julius Irvin thread he said we were fine and didn't need Irvin because Molden or Kyler could move to safety.
I'm definitely not going to be responsible for all the haught takes he's made about the position and I've definitely been in the "the secondary will be fine" camp but there's a minor point of shall we call it, "room for improvement" with safety depth and I think most of us recognized it even if we didn't go full retard over it.
There was a lot of consternation in recruiting forum during 2017 season and 2018 recruiting period over safety depth after Love went off deep end.
Ballz was hand waving the issue away.
By the time we get to 2019 Spring Camp the "Process" of building depth is over. There is nothing to be done for 2019.
Yet there goes Ballz on Day 1 of Spring Camp complaining about the half-baked result of our initial alignment. As if it wouldn't change as the best players emerged.
Yes, I was not as concerned the recruiting years leading up to now at safety because we recruited a bunch of DB's who played safety in high school and could play safety for us. Then Jimmy Lake decided not to move those certain guys over to safety and kept them at corner. I don't have a fucking crystal ball asshole. I don't know what decisions Jimmy Lake is going to make with his personnel and what positions they're going to play for him.
And yeah I was complaining Day 1 of Spring camp because the "best players" that we needed to emerge would have to be Freshman because we have nobody else. The likelihood of Freshman being able to immediately play at a high level is low. Therefore, my concern at the time was logical. But we got lucky with Cam Williams so that's nice.
Would love to get Irvin but we don't fucking need this kid. We have a shit load of corners that could move to safety to fill out the depth there or get more playing time like Austin Joyner, Elijah Molden, and Kyler Gordon. Jimmy will figure out who best fits where to put the best guys on the field.
OK
And again, the previous post in the Irivn thread was under the assumption at least one of Gordon or Molden were going to be playing safety for UW which is what Jimmy Lake suggested when both were recruited. I took him for his word. Then he didn't follow through so things changed as they often do which changed my perception. Hindsight is 20/20. This isn't a "gotcha" moment for you. Keep wasting your time though.
I’m still so fucking blown away by all you Cam-sucking Doogs that you’ve completely overlooked the best safety on the West Coast two years ago.
Come fall, Julius Irvin will be starting at safety and will assuage Ballzzz concerns and our respective Brandon McKinney-induced PTSD from the Rose Bowl. Irvin will be the next great Husky safety.
I can’t believe any of you would doubt Jimmy’s recruiting or development.
Sure that'd be nice. Nobody ever said that couldn't happen or ignored his talent. But until he gets healthy and does something impressive on the field at safety instead of corner, nobody knows.
Christian Caples Athletic Article just dropped, not gonna copy and paste because I’m on my phone but he did mention Haener could have easily had two more interceptions and Eason only missed one throw in 11 on 11s and there was interference on the play.
Because people are bugging him about his spring INTs?
Trying to be more like browning so the coaches name him starter. Looking for every advantage. Next week they will be reporting Haener showed up to the coaches only meeting.
Eason was otherwise solid, too, completing all nine of his pass attempts during 11-on-11 periods, his lone misfire wiped out by an interference penalty against Hampton on a deep attempt to Spiker.
Eason said he’s trying to “improve on the little things — accuracy, decision-making, all that stuff around being a quarterback. I think I’ve done a better job of learning the playbook (throughout spring) and feeling more comfortable in the playbook and executing on plays, so there’s a lot of things that go into it, and I’ve got a lot of things to improve and a lot of things to get better at.”
Haener did throw three interceptions, two of which came during 7-on-7s within a three-play span. The first was picked by Molden on a throw intended for tight end Otton up the seam, and Bryant snagged the second on a pass that sailed over the head of its intended target.
Practice also ended with an interception, when Kyler dove to haul in a Haener pass that had been deflected. Haener threw it on the run, moving to his left, being chased by Bowman.
- Haener made a couple of nice throws after Eason’s bomb, too, but also threw two other passes during team periods that could have been intercepted.
- One of those came during the Cal game, I mean, practice on a throw over the middle intended for Chico that freshman safety Williams read perfectly but couldn’t quite haul in.
-The other came when Hampton secured perfect position on a deep ball up the right sideline but couldn’t secure it.
- Ngata was back at outside linebacker during team periods, while Ulofoshio was back on the inside. They have been rotating all spring. The play after Williams’ near-interception, Ngata got to Haener for what would have been a sack during a live setting.
- Mele still sidelined by an apparent injury, Roberts was at left tackle and Curne at right guard with the No. 2 line.
- For the first time, McKinney was out at starting Safety. The 1’s were Taylor and Gordon at Corner, Molden at Nickel, and Bryant and Williams at Safety. McKinney and Cook took the safety reps with the 2’s with Gilchrist at nickel and Hampton and Bush at corner.
- Sirmon nearly led a touchdown drive working behind the No. 3 offensive line, but Chico fumbled at the 1 on a completion to the 1-yard line. Sirmon made nice throws to Lowe and Bynum on the series.
- Bryant recorded a “sack” of Yankoff to cap Yankoff’s only 11-on-11 series.
- Haener on Eason: “We’re good buddies. There’s no drama or anything going on. It’s a quarterback competition. It’s football. I work as hard as I can. He works as hard as he can. We’re both trying to draw off one another, so it’s good for us.”
- Haener on his beautiful TD to Weaver last fall: “You try to take it in, but I try not to think about that game. A lot of people probably think about that game as my defining moment, but you’ve got to let that go. People (have) got to make mistakes, and you’ve got to go through it, and you’ve got to understand situations and everything and put it in perspective a little bit. So I definitely learned from it, but I don’t think about it a lot.”
- Eason on his controversial approach to throwing to receivers even though they aren’t wide open that UW fans haven’t seen in 4 years: “There’s aspects of that. Our coaches harp on that all the time — giving our receivers a chance, put the spotlight on them. The more of that we do, the better. Especially in spring ball. You get them more opportunities to go make plays.”
Adams also said he wanted his guys to block better and that has been a focus since he arrived.
"You have to block to play in this system and all of our guys have taken strides in that area," Adams said. "We want them to be junkyard dogs and to battle and compete at every moment. They need to bring that mentality and I think that's something that we've seen since we started practices."
Osborne continues to be a real standout of the group. We mentioned it on Monday, but it's worth mentioning again, the redshirt freshman just continues to get open and make plays. He runs really well and is tough to jam off the line of scrimmage.
Lowe has really appeared to taken a step forward as well and Spiker also flashed a couple of times during the practices we were allowed to watch.
Trey and Watty opened up some big holes today in the run game and walled off pass rushers.
Ngata and Ulofoshio have both continued to look really good and have been getting consistent pressure when outside. Not sure how they’ve looked inside, but it’s been nice to see how much they’ve been getting sacks.
Henry got from 29 and 31. Seems like he won’t attempt anything beyond 35.
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Take your fucking pick:
Yes I did here are the links
Anyone can get a lucky guess
Also Haener deleted his social media. Kewl.
Because people are bugging him about his spring INTs?
Eason was otherwise solid, too, completing all nine of his pass attempts during 11-on-11 periods, his lone misfire wiped out by an interference penalty against Hampton on a deep attempt to Spiker.
Eason said he’s trying to “improve on the little things — accuracy, decision-making, all that stuff around being a quarterback. I think I’ve done a better job of learning the playbook (throughout spring) and feeling more comfortable in the playbook and executing on plays, so there’s a lot of things that go into it, and I’ve got a lot of things to improve and a lot of things to get better at.”
Haener did throw three interceptions, two of which came during 7-on-7s within a three-play span. The first was picked by Molden on a throw intended for tight end Otton up the seam, and Bryant snagged the second on a pass that sailed over the head of its intended target.
Practice also ended with an interception, when Kyler dove to haul in a Haener pass that had been deflected. Haener threw it on the run, moving to his left, being chased by Bowman.
- Haener made a couple of nice throws after Eason’s bomb, too, but also threw two other passes during team periods that could have been intercepted.
- One of those came during the Cal game, I mean, practice on a throw over the middle intended for Chico that freshman safety Williams read perfectly but couldn’t quite haul in.
-The other came when Hampton secured perfect position on a deep ball up the right sideline but couldn’t secure it.
- Ngata was back at outside linebacker during team periods, while Ulofoshio was back on the inside. They have been rotating all spring. The play after Williams’ near-interception, Ngata got to Haener for what would have been a sack during a live setting.
- Mele still sidelined by an apparent injury, Roberts was at left tackle and Curne at right guard with the No. 2 line.
- For the first time, McKinney was out at starting Safety. The 1’s were Taylor and Gordon at Corner, Molden at Nickel, and Bryant and Williams at Safety. McKinney and Cook took the safety reps with the 2’s with Gilchrist at nickel and Hampton and Bush at corner.
- Sirmon nearly led a touchdown drive working behind the No. 3 offensive line, but Chico fumbled at the 1 on a completion to the 1-yard line. Sirmon made nice throws to Lowe and Bynum on the series.
- Bryant recorded a “sack” of Yankoff to cap Yankoff’s only 11-on-11 series.
- Haener on Eason: “We’re good buddies. There’s no drama or anything going on. It’s a quarterback competition. It’s football. I work as hard as I can. He works as hard as he can. We’re both trying to draw off one another, so it’s good for us.”
- Haener on his beautiful TD to Weaver last fall: “You try to take it in, but I try not to think about that game. A lot of people probably think about that game as my defining moment, but you’ve got to let that go. People (have) got to make mistakes, and you’ve got to go through it, and you’ve got to understand situations and everything and put it in perspective a little bit. So I definitely learned from it, but I don’t think about it a lot.”
- Eason on his controversial approach to throwing to receivers even though they aren’t wide open that UW fans haven’t seen in 4 years: “There’s aspects of that. Our coaches harp on that all the time — giving our receivers a chance, put the spotlight on them. The more of that we do, the better. Especially in spring ball. You get them more opportunities to go make plays.”
"You have to block to play in this system and all of our guys have taken strides in that area," Adams said. "We want them to be junkyard dogs and to battle and compete at every moment. They need to bring that mentality and I think that's something that we've seen since we started practices."
Osborne continues to be a real standout of the group. We mentioned it on Monday, but it's worth mentioning again, the redshirt freshman just continues to get open and make plays. He runs really well and is tough to jam off the line of scrimmage.
Lowe has really appeared to taken a step forward as well and Spiker also flashed a couple of times during the practices we were allowed to watch.
Ngata and Ulofoshio have both continued to look really good and have been getting consistent pressure when outside. Not sure how they’ve looked inside, but it’s been nice to see how much they’ve been getting sacks.
Henry got from 29 and 31. Seems like he won’t attempt anything beyond 35.
Defensive backs aside from Taylor at one outside corner. Future pros will be competing for second team snaps.
Defensive line...not worried.
Positions with doubts:
Inside linebacker...thin and unproven/young.
Receiver, but only in the sense that the little white guys are still here to take up snaps.
Running back...just not what I'd call "loaded" and there's no clear cut headliner of the Polk/Sankey/Gaskin variety.