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    Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
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    For as process oriented as Peterlips is, every day a grind, every minute a war to get better and better at the sequential order of every fucking breath, every hour a gift from the allmighty to improve and repeat methods and fine tune details, or whatever his philosophy is...

    Why do his kickers suck so much? Even at Boise they lost him games.

    Angry and questioning over special teams inadequacies PGOS is best PGOS.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    For as process oriented as Peterlips is, every day a grind, every minute a war to get better and better at the sequential order of every fucking breath, every hour a gift from the allmighty to improve and repeat methods and fine tune details, or whatever his philosophy is...

    Why do his kickers suck so much? Even at Boise they lost him games.

    Kickers are a fucking crapshoot. Nobody at the college level has any idea how to rate them or recruit them. You can identity who has a strong leg but nobody has figured out how to identify who can handle the pressure in game situations. You get a kid with a strong leg and hope he has the sack to handle the pressure, and the mental fortitude to push through it when he chinevitably blows a game.

    Pete keeps whiffing. Hopefully Horn can break the streak. He certainly has the leg.

    Based on his high school performance, I'm not optimistic.
    I fondly remember FSU recruiting the #1 kicker in the nation to fix their wide right woes, and him sucking too.

    Also when UW got Randy Jones, the #1 kicker in the nation who kicked a 59 yard FG for Ferris. He also sucked balls.
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    For as process oriented as Peterlips is, every day a grind, every minute a war to get better and better at the sequential order of every fucking breath, every hour a gift from the allmighty to improve and repeat methods and fine tune details, or whatever his philosophy is...

    Why do his kickers suck so much? Even at Boise they lost him games.

    Do you have any evidence that his field goal kicking over his career sucks more than normal? Obviously the Nevada choke and to a lesser extent the TCU game the next year stick out but thats not enough to conclude this is a long-standing pattern.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,566
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    For as process oriented as Peterlips is, every day a grind, every minute a war to get better and better at the sequential order of every fucking breath, every hour a gift from the allmighty to improve and repeat methods and fine tune details, or whatever his philosophy is...

    Why do his kickers suck so much? Even at Boise they lost him games.

    Kickers are a fucking crapshoot. Nobody at the college level has any idea how to rate them or recruit them. You can identity who has a strong leg but nobody has figured out how to identify who can handle the pressure in game situations. You get a kid with a strong leg and hope he has the sack to handle the pressure, and the mental fortitude to push through it when he chinevitably blows a game.

    Pete keeps whiffing. Hopefully Horn can break the streak. He certainly has the leg.

    Based on his high school performance, I'm not optimistic.
    Bring in your top 10 prospects based on film and have them compete for a scholarship over a weekend. Best one gets an offer. How is that for high pressure?
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    For as process oriented as Peterlips is, every day a grind, every minute a war to get better and better at the sequential order of every fucking breath, every hour a gift from the allmighty to improve and repeat methods and fine tune details, or whatever his philosophy is...

    Why do his kickers suck so much? Even at Boise they lost him games.

    Kickers are a fucking crapshoot. Nobody at the college level has any idea how to rate them or recruit them. You can identity who has a strong leg but nobody has figured out how to identify who can handle the pressure in game situations. You get a kid with a strong leg and hope he has the sack to handle the pressure, and the mental fortitude to push through it when he chinevitably blows a game.

    Pete keeps whiffing. Hopefully Horn can break the streak. He certainly has the leg.

    Based on his high school performance, I'm not optimistic.
    Bring in your top 10 prospects based on film and have them compete for a scholarship over a weekend. Best one gets an offer. How is that for high pressure?
    That's only half the battle though. You need to see how they bounce back from a crippling miss. There's no way in that environment for one miss to mean enough to cripple them AND for them to have another big kick afterwards.

    Blair Walsh was a fucking machine early in his NFL career. He misses one big kick and he's toast.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,566
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    For as process oriented as Peterlips is, every day a grind, every minute a war to get better and better at the sequential order of every fucking breath, every hour a gift from the allmighty to improve and repeat methods and fine tune details, or whatever his philosophy is...

    Why do his kickers suck so much? Even at Boise they lost him games.

    Kickers are a fucking crapshoot. Nobody at the college level has any idea how to rate them or recruit them. You can identity who has a strong leg but nobody has figured out how to identify who can handle the pressure in game situations. You get a kid with a strong leg and hope he has the sack to handle the pressure, and the mental fortitude to push through it when he chinevitably blows a game.

    Pete keeps whiffing. Hopefully Horn can break the streak. He certainly has the leg.

    Based on his high school performance, I'm not optimistic.
    Bring in your top 10 prospects based on film and have them compete for a scholarship over a weekend. Best one gets an offer. How is that for high pressure?
    That's only half the battle though. You need to see how they bounce back from a crippling miss. There's no way in that environment for one miss to mean enough to cripple them AND for them to have another big kick afterwards.

    Blair Walsh was a fucking machine early in his NFL career. He misses one big kick and he's toast.
    I get it, kickers are hard to evaluate. Petersens have still sucked more than they should
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,566
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    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?

    Some coaches have more well documented issues with field goal kicking than others. Special teams have fucked up for Petersen far more than you would expect for such a disciplined program.

    HTFH
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?

    Some coaches have more well documented issues with field goal kicking than others. Special teams have fucked up for Petersen far more than you would expect for such a disciplined program.

    HTFH
    Prove it.

    You have to start off by establishing what would be expected. What is the average FG% in NCAA? Broken down by different distances? On game winning kicks?

    You can't just say oh hey, CP lost two games 10 years ago on missed FGs and then one last year ergo, well documented issue.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,566
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    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?

    Some coaches have more well documented issues with field goal kicking than others. Special teams have fucked up for Petersen far more than you would expect for such a disciplined program.

    HTFH
    Prove it.

    You have to start off by establishing what would be expected. What is the average FG% in NCAA? Broken down by different distances? On game winning kicks?

    You can't just say oh hey, CP lost two games 10 years ago on missed FGs and then one last year ergo, well documented issue.

    I'll let you do the analysis on the statistics, Chest. Petersen has had shit special teams for a while, you don't need to do a linear regression on the hypotenusal deviations to recognize it.
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?

    Some coaches have more well documented issues with field goal kicking than others. Special teams have fucked up for Petersen far more than you would expect for such a disciplined program.

    HTFH
    Prove it.

    You have to start off by establishing what would be expected. What is the average FG% in NCAA? Broken down by different distances? On game winning kicks?

    You can't just say oh hey, CP lost two games 10 years ago on missed FGs and then one last year ergo, well documented issue.

    I'll let you do the analysis on the statistics, Chest. Petersen has had shit special teams for a while, you don't need to do a linear regression on the hypotenusal deviations to recognize it.
    No, that isn't how it works.

    You're making the claim- you produce the evidence.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,566
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    edited April 2019

    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?

    Some coaches have more well documented issues with field goal kicking than others. Special teams have fucked up for Petersen far more than you would expect for such a disciplined program.

    HTFH
    Prove it.

    You have to start off by establishing what would be expected. What is the average FG% in NCAA? Broken down by different distances? On game winning kicks?

    You can't just say oh hey, CP lost two games 10 years ago on missed FGs and then one last year ergo, well documented issue.

    I'll let you do the analysis on the statistics, Chest. Petersen has had shit special teams for a while, you don't need to do a linear regression on the hypotenusal deviations to recognize it.
    No, that isn't how it works.

    You're making the claim- you produce the evidence.
    It actually is how it works. The consensus is that special teams is not a strong point for the program. You can tell by watching the fucking games. The lone bright spot was Pettis returning kicks.
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    Gladstone said:

    Pete would’ve had two additional undefeated seasons if not for kicking woes. Certainly his Achilles’ heel. That and his offense lol?

    This is silly. What elite coach or team wouldn't have won more accolades if they made all their field goals?

    Some coaches have more well documented issues with field goal kicking than others. Special teams have fucked up for Petersen far more than you would expect for such a disciplined program.

    HTFH
    Prove it.

    You have to start off by establishing what would be expected. What is the average FG% in NCAA? Broken down by different distances? On game winning kicks?

    You can't just say oh hey, CP lost two games 10 years ago on missed FGs and then one last year ergo, well documented issue.

    I'll let you do the analysis on the statistics, Chest. Petersen has had shit special teams for a while, you don't need to do a linear regression on the hypotenusal deviations to recognize it.
    No, that isn't how it works.

    You're making the claim- you produce the evidence.
    It actually is how it works. The consensus is that special teams is not a strong point for the program. You can tell by watching the fucking games. The lone bright spot was Pettis returning kicks.
    Your original claim was that CP's FG kickers always suck.

    Now you've changed from FG kicking to special teams holistically and from historically to just at UW?
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    The bottom line is Chris Petersen is a fucking pussy. He'd rather put Aaron Fuller back there at punt return who is not a threat to do anything with the ball in his hands simply because he's sure handed and won't muff it. He's a conservative, risk-adverse pussy who plays not to lose and doesn't play the best talent. It's only fitting that all his kickers are pussies too.

    Why wouldn't he just bring in a preferred walk-one kicker in every class and have the kickers compete separate from the rest of the team every day. How hard it is to have a GA set up 10 kicks that each of them has to attempt per practice, rotate through the entire group kicking every attempt, recording each attempt and the result, and then when the season rolls around play the one that was most accurate and give him a scholarship for that upcoming academic year. I'd say all four or five of them competing every day in practice for one scholarship would raise the pressure level of their kicks and simulate game level pressure. But I'm sure Petersen is too much of a pussy to do this. It might be too stressful on his kickers.
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