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  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Domicillo said:

    I decommitted..... I'm all @UWSoftball now.

    Slept at HTs and her older brother's house many nights. Got my truck broken into in front of that same house.

    Still give her brother shit for that. They stole my hacked dealer software laptop. Had BMW/AMG, Porsche and Audi factory software running on it.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Malloe doesn't have a killer instinct?

    Fuck outta here.

    It's not about when you get them it's about who you get.
    He is also responsible for the fact we basically have zero depth on the DL... He was below mediocre as a recruiter every year before this year.

    Next year we have one Jr. in Levi, and basically the rest are going to be freshman.

    Malloe did a great job this year...

    You will excuse me before I crown his ass


    My bad, I didn't realize you didn't follow recruiting last season. I'll remember not to engage you next time.
    Last year he recruited 1 interior DL, immediately after not signing a single interior DL 2017 and only signing one in 2016



    2016: Zero recruits from his region, one positional recruit in Levi
    2017: One recruit from his region (Ty Jones), one positional recruit in Joe Tryon beating out WSU and EWU
    2018 he did better (not that you could do much worse than before)

    3 star Zion - beat Cal and vanderbilt and again under recruited DL with only Tuli and Mosiah

    I don't know WTF you guys are talking about with some revisionist history? This is exactly what @RoadDawg55 and @Dennis_DeYoung were always arguing about, that Malloe was doing a shitty job recruiting but was obvious a good coach because he was still getting results. Was that enough or sustainable? Process or results?

    The idea that Malloe is some great recruiter is literally new, just this recruiting class.
    When everyone says you are a fucking idiot maybe you should question your priors instead of doubling down on stupid.

    I'll give you a hint: Sam Taimani.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited February 2019

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Malloe doesn't have a killer instinct?

    Fuck outta here.

    It's not about when you get them it's about who you get.
    He is also responsible for the fact we basically have zero depth on the DL... He was below mediocre as a recruiter every year before this year.

    Next year we have one Jr. in Levi, and basically the rest are going to be freshman.

    Malloe did a great job this year...

    You will excuse me before I crown his ass


    My bad, I didn't realize you didn't follow recruiting last season. I'll remember not to engage you next time.
    Last year he recruited 1 interior DL, immediately after not signing a single interior DL 2017 and only signing one in 2016



    2016: Zero recruits from his region, one positional recruit in Levi
    2017: One recruit from his region (Ty Jones), one positional recruit in Joe Tryon beating out WSU and EWU
    2018 he did better (not that you could do much worse than before)

    3 star Zion - beat Cal and vanderbilt and again under recruited DL with only Tuli and Mosiah

    I don't know WTF you guys are talking about with some revisionist history? This is exactly what @RoadDawg55 and @Dennis_DeYoung were always arguing about, that Malloe was doing a shitty job recruiting but was obvious a good coach because he was still getting results. Was that enough or sustainable? Process or results?

    The idea that Malloe is some great recruiter is literally new, just this recruiting class.
    He got 2 of the top 3 DL in the West in 2018 and 3 of the top 4 in 2019. He took four DT last year and 4 this year to the point most of ya think four star Draco Bynum is gonna get moved to TE cause there’s no room at DT.

    He’s killed it the last two classes. And he’s contributed significantly to the Poly success at LB as well.

    He’s probably been the best and most valuable recruiter west of Texas the last two classes. Even better than Lake.
    Who? seriously
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited February 2019
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Malloe doesn't have a killer instinct?

    Fuck outta here.

    It's not about when you get them it's about who you get.
    He is also responsible for the fact we basically have zero depth on the DL... He was below mediocre as a recruiter every year before this year.

    Next year we have one Jr. in Levi, and basically the rest are going to be freshman.

    Malloe did a great job this year...

    You will excuse me before I crown his ass


    My bad, I didn't realize you didn't follow recruiting last season. I'll remember not to engage you next time.
    Last year he recruited 1 interior DL, immediately after not signing a single interior DL 2017 and only signing one in 2016



    2016: Zero recruits from his region, one positional recruit in Levi
    2017: One recruit from his region (Ty Jones), one positional recruit in Joe Tryon beating out WSU and EWU
    2018 he did better (not that you could do much worse than before)

    3 star Zion - beat Cal and vanderbilt and again under recruited DL with only Tuli and Mosiah

    I don't know WTF you guys are talking about with some revisionist history? This is exactly what @RoadDawg55 and @Dennis_DeYoung were always arguing about, that Malloe was doing a shitty job recruiting but was obvious a good coach because he was still getting results. Was that enough or sustainable? Process or results?

    The idea that Malloe is some great recruiter is literally new, just this recruiting class.
    He got 2 of the top 3 DL in the West in 2018 and 3 of the top 4 in 2019. He took four DT last year and 4 this year to the point most of ya think four star Draco Bynum is gonna get moved to TE cause there’s no room at DT.

    He’s killed it the last two classes. And he’s contributed significantly to the Poly success at LB as well.

    He’s probably been the best and most valuable recruiter west of Texas the last two classes. Even better than Lake.
    Who? seriously
    Tuli, Taimani, Bynum, Liu

    DDY (and therefore the rest of us) had the class at 5 but it appears Zion is staying at BUCK.
  • longduckdong
    longduckdong Member Posts: 1,056
    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Guessing you have a government job.

  • LaMichael_Corleone
    LaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,288 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    I looked at 24/7 and they will show guys who comitted, decommitted and then signed as both decommitted and sign. Not saying 24/7 is full of geniuses but that's how they do it.
  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    I won't rehash a lot of the topics that have already been discussed about Pete's recruiting process. Losing Toot Toot and likely Puka Shells on signing day fucking sucks. And it's been discussed at length what needs to be done to close better, which was then countered by 14 Four Star players and a great overall class.

    Say what you want about Pete's process and how long it takes to offer guys (I certainly have, which @HillsboroDuck can attest to) or some of the guys he doesn't offer or some of the guys he offers that seems like a waste. Overall, the talent level has gotten better each year which I have also broken down in detail.

    But what I did want to take a second to focus on was a largely glanced over portion of this whole process:



    With Asa reaffirming and signing, there were 0 de-commits this year.

    Fightin Herms - 5
    Zona - 4
    Cal Too High - 4
    Ruffalo Soldier - 10 (They got pilfered by the bigger boys who came calling late)
    ScoDucks - 7 (Those players were backup plans anyway)
    Beavlets - 1 (Gotta have players people want to lose em Babushka)
    Stanford - 0
    UCLA - 2
    USC LOLOLOL - 5
    Utah - 0
    Pirates - 4


    2019 - 0
    2018 - Kaho (Nick Bolton doesn't count)
    2017 - Marlon and Wedington
    2016 - 0
    2015 - 0


    It's a huge fucking disappointment to not beat out Tennessee and Oregon and it needs to be remedied. But it's a huge fucking relief to not have dudes flipping last minute and leaving a huge hole you didn't plan on existing.



    Bump.

    Despite Pete sleepwalking through the season and UW having a shitty year, then bailing out of no where and having to transition to Lake:

    The 2020 class again had 0 decommits. Well, technically Jacobe decommitted, but then he ended up signing with UW anyway.