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Elizabeth Warren proposes 'wealth tax' on Americans with more than $50 million in assets

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    Hondo and HDoog are now on record admitting to tax fraud. Why am I not suprised.

    I have a residence and a business in Montana. How is that tax fraud? Axing for a fren.

    Hondo lying again. Said he had a business in Montana for a year and then transferred it to wa. Now his business in Montana.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo and HDoog are now on record admitting to tax fraud. Why am I not suprised.

    I have a residence and a business in Montana. How is that tax fraud? Axing for a fren.

    Hondo lying again. Said he had a business in Montana for a year and then transferred it to wa. Now his business in Montana.
    I never said I transferred a business to WA. I live in Spokane. Have a job here. Part owner of a business in Montana and have another residence there. Reading hard for you?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
    Well if you think the tax on productivity is stupid and a VAT is the only one that is tolerable..... You tell me what that means.
    You’re the one who was so sure of the policies I want and you even know the consequences of the policies you say I want. Lay them out.

    Is an tax on income a tax on a preson’s productivity? Only a dumbass would think otherwise.
    So you want no income tax and a VAT instead. Welcome to the last page of this thread. And I've outlined the consequences of that twice, to which you disagree.
    So what are the policies I am advocating? What policies do a advocate with consumption tax? You seem to know since you know the consequences. So let everyone know the policies I advocate for. You’ve “outlined” nothing.
    Then stop being a bitch and explain it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
    Well if you think the tax on productivity is stupid and a VAT is the only one that is tolerable..... You tell me what that means.
    You’re the one who was so sure of the policies I want and you even know the consequences of the policies you say I want. Lay them out.

    Is an tax on income a tax on a preson’s productivity? Only a dumbass would think otherwise.
    So you want no income tax and a VAT instead. Welcome to the last page of this thread. And I've outlined the consequences of that twice, to which you disagree.
    Was that where you lied about the amount paid by the rich in income taxes now compared to the 1950s Hondo?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
    Well if you think the tax on productivity is stupid and a VAT is the only one that is tolerable..... You tell me what that means.
    You’re the one who was so sure of the policies I want and you even know the consequences of the policies you say I want. Lay them out.

    Is an tax on income a tax on a preson’s productivity? Only a dumbass would think otherwise.
    So you want no income tax and a VAT instead. Welcome to the last page of this thread. And I've outlined the consequences of that twice, to which you disagree.
    Was that where you lied about the amount paid by the rich in income taxes now compared to the 1950s Hondo?

    STFU Bob. Because you can't comprehend it, doesn't make it a lie.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
    Well if you think the tax on productivity is stupid and a VAT is the only one that is tolerable..... You tell me what that means.
    You’re the one who was so sure of the policies I want and you even know the consequences of the policies you say I want. Lay them out.

    Is an tax on income a tax on a preson’s productivity? Only a dumbass would think otherwise.
    So you want no income tax and a VAT instead. Welcome to the last page of this thread. And I've outlined the consequences of that twice, to which you disagree.
    Was that where you lied about the amount paid by the rich in income taxes now compared to the 1950s Hondo?

    STFU Bob. Because you can't comprehend it, doesn't make it a lie.
    Oh I comprehend just fine Hondo. Your both a liar and moron.


    When I stated accurately the rich today pay a greater percentage of all the income taxes paid. You responded:


    No. They. Don't. And yes I discussed that.... Back Then they paid 42% per your fucking quote. And now they pay 34%.

    Only one tiny problem there dumbfuck. The "quote" I provided didn't say they paid 42% of all income taxes.

    It said:

    How could it be that the tax code of the 1950s had a top marginal tax rate of 91 percent, but resulted in an effective tax rate of only 42 percent on the wealthiest taxpayers? In fact, the situation is even stranger. The 42.0 percent tax rate on the top 1 percent takes into account all taxes levied by federal, state, and local governments, including: income, payroll, corporate, excise, property, and estate taxes.

    So are you a liar or a dumbfuck or both Hondo?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,574 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo and HDoog are now on record admitting to tax fraud. Why am I not suprised.

    I have a residence and a business in Montana. How is that tax fraud? Axing for a fren.

    Hondo lying again. Said he had a business in Montana for a year and then transferred it to wa. Now his business in Montana.
    I never said I transferred a business to WA. I live in Spokane. Have a job here. Part owner of a business in Montana and have another residence there. Reading hard for you?
    Do traveling burger flippers get paid well?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
    Well if you think the tax on productivity is stupid and a VAT is the only one that is tolerable..... You tell me what that means.
    You’re the one who was so sure of the policies I want and you even know the consequences of the policies you say I want. Lay them out.

    Is an tax on income a tax on a preson’s productivity? Only a dumbass would think otherwise.
    So you want no income tax and a VAT instead. Welcome to the last page of this thread. And I've outlined the consequences of that twice, to which you disagree.
    Was that where you lied about the amount paid by the rich in income taxes now compared to the 1950s Hondo?

    STFU Bob. Because you can't comprehend it, doesn't make it a lie.
    Oh I comprehend just fine Hondo. Your both a liar and moron.


    When I stated accurately the rich today pay a greater percentage of all the income taxes paid. You responded:


    No. They. Don't. And yes I discussed that.... Back Then they paid 42% per your fucking quote. And now they pay 34%.

    Only one tiny problem there dumbfuck. The "quote" I provided didn't say they paid 42% of all income taxes.

    It said:

    How could it be that the tax code of the 1950s had a top marginal tax rate of 91 percent, but resulted in an effective tax rate of only 42 percent on the wealthiest taxpayers? In fact, the situation is even stranger. The 42.0 percent tax rate on the top 1 percent takes into account all taxes levied by federal, state, and local governments, including: income, payroll, corporate, excise, property, and estate taxes.

    So are you a liar or a dumbfuck or both Hondo?

    What the fuck do you think this means? From your quote. Which is the same comparable to the 34% paid in 2017. Fuck man, embarrassing.

    The 42.0 percent tax rate on the top 1 percent takes into account all taxes levied by federal, state, and local governments, including: income, payroll, corporate, excise, property, and estate taxes.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited January 2019


    Hondo goes with the gibberish defense.


    The rich pay a greater percentage of all income taxes today then they did back in the 1950s when the top marginal rate was over 70%. The only liar here is you Hondo.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Hondo can't comprehend the difference between an income tax and a overall tax rate.