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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,204
    edited January 2019

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,210
    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

    Yes it's that hard. But I'm not in the business of guessing what a guy who is almost 60 would have done at the beginning of his life based on his family's politics and his educational aspirations.

    I suspect if we were playing this game with someone on the right you'd be flying off with the Kunt logic crap right about now. And save it. I'm not going to Hondo dance with you for three fucking days over what Obama would have done if his aunt had balls. Because IHDGAF.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Golves off???
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Anyone mocking someone for doing everything in their power not to get dragtrcintp vietnam is fucking ass. Bush, Clinton, Trump, whoever. Good on them.

    This

    I turned 18 in 1974 so I was drafted and fought in Nam

    #stolenvalor

    Trust me by 1970 I was sweating it out and thinking of how to get out.

    I voted for Clinton and Trump

    Only regards like Benny think one is different than the other
    Only regards like Race said anything about Clinton.
    Irregardless???
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    salemcoog said:

    Anyone mocking someone for doing everything in their power not to get dragtrcintp vietnam is fucking ass. Bush, Clinton, Trump, whoever. Good on them.

    This

    I turned 18 in 1974 so I was drafted and fought in Nam

    #stolenvalor

    Trust me by 1970 I was sweating it out and thinking of how to get out.

    I voted for Clinton and Trump

    Only regards like Benny think one is different than the other
    Only regards like Race said anything about Clinton.
    Irregardless???
    *Irretardless
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,156 Standard Supporter

    salemcoog said:

    Anyone mocking someone for doing everything in their power not to get dragtrcintp vietnam is fucking ass. Bush, Clinton, Trump, whoever. Good on them.

    This

    I turned 18 in 1974 so I was drafted and fought in Nam

    #stolenvalor

    Trust me by 1970 I was sweating it out and thinking of how to get out.

    I voted for Clinton and Trump

    Only regards like Benny think one is different than the other
    Only regards like Race said anything about Clinton.
    Irregardless???
    *Irretardless
    That said, Jake Browning still sucks.

  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,487 Founders Club
    IDGAF about draft dodgers. I just don't like it when they talk shit on people who did serve.

    I still hate Jane Fonda though. Aid and comfort to the enemy during time of war. Bitch.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2019
    I don’t know what Obama would have done, but my guess is he would have done what I would have done and all smart people did. Use every means possible to not go to Vietnam. Education deferments, family/kids deferments, injuries (real and faked), used any family connections, anything to not go fight a fucked up war that had nothing to do with me.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,842 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2019
    Obama couldn't pass a security clearance background to empty trash at an aerospace company. HTH
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Obama couldn't pass a security clearance background to empty trash at an aerospace company. HTH

    Meds dialed in.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,204

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

    Yes it's that hard. But I'm not in the business of guessing what a guy who is almost 60 would have done at the beginning of his life based on his family's politics and his educational aspirations.

    I suspect if we were playing this game with someone on the right you'd be flying off with the Kunt logic crap right about now. And save it. I'm not going to Hondo dance with you for three fucking days over what Obama would have done if his aunt had balls. Because IHDGAF.
    Dude

    It isn't that hard. Obama and I are pretty much the same generation. The military was a pariah until Gulf War 1. You had to be there. The guys that did serve got shit on. The war effected a generation.

    Reagan had to schedule FCS Grenada to get the fans to start coming back.

    Plenty of people are assigning motives to Trump with no evidence. Whats the difference. Damone is right, most people would have done what it takes to not go

    Its stupid anyway. We don't elect presidents based on service in the military. They are free to tout it when they run and voters are free to ignore it. Its only GOP presidents that get this shit anyway which was the point that dumb Benny keeps missing.

    If we elected based on service Carter and Bush would have got second terms and Reagan and Clinton would never have got elected. And that would have been a shame

    McCain would have beat Obama

    Use your head read for comprehension you don't get it thats not what I said blah blah blah
    Oh it's obvious that Obama would have bucked all of that and found a way to enter the draft. He was such a patriot that even into his 40s he virtue signaled to the his fellow leftist by refusing to wear a flag label pin and to put his hand over his heart during the playing of the national anthem. Obama and I are essentially the same age. I used to be a leftist. I know the hatred that the left had for the military. Obama was steeped in anti-Americanism and opposition to the American military. To claim we have no clue about what Obama might have done if faced with the draft is willful bullshit.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,842 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2019
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Obama couldn't pass a security clearance background to empty trash at an aerospace company. HTH

    Meds dialed in.
    Ask someone who has one. Hanging with Marxists/commies and known terrorists, running for office as a socialist, being mentored by a card carrying commie, having commie mother, Grandparents and a foreign national commie for daddy won't get you far in a background.

    Also couldn't pass a background to be in law enforcement. Associating with felons and drug use......

    It would if you were in charge but we can be thankful for small favors.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,210
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

    Yes it's that hard. But I'm not in the business of guessing what a guy who is almost 60 would have done at the beginning of his life based on his family's politics and his educational aspirations.

    I suspect if we were playing this game with someone on the right you'd be flying off with the Kunt logic crap right about now. And save it. I'm not going to Hondo dance with you for three fucking days over what Obama would have done if his aunt had balls. Because IHDGAF.
    Dude

    It isn't that hard. Obama and I are pretty much the same generation. The military was a pariah until Gulf War 1. You had to be there. The guys that did serve got shit on. The war effected a generation.

    Reagan had to schedule FCS Grenada to get the fans to start coming back.

    Plenty of people are assigning motives to Trump with no evidence. Whats the difference. Damone is right, most people would have done what it takes to not go

    Its stupid anyway. We don't elect presidents based on service in the military. They are free to tout it when they run and voters are free to ignore it. Its only GOP presidents that get this shit anyway which was the point that dumb Benny keeps missing.

    If we elected based on service Carter and Bush would have got second terms and Reagan and Clinton would never have got elected. And that would have been a shame

    McCain would have beat Obama

    Use your head read for comprehension you don't get it thats not what I said blah blah blah
    Oh it's obvious that Obama would have bucked all of that and found a way to enter the draft. He was such a patriot that even into his 40s he virtue signaled to the his fellow leftist by refusing to wear a flag label pin and to put his hand over his heart during the playing of the national anthem. Obama and I are essentially the same age. I used to be a leftist. I know the hatred that the left had for the military. Obama was steeped in anti-Americanism and opposition to the American military. To claim we have no clue about what Obama might have done if faced with the draft is willful bullshit.
    You like to talk about the strawman ass fucking. Seems appropriate here.

    You don't know what he would have done if drafted. Guess all you want. This is, at best, willful speculation. He might have complied and not liked it, he might have run to Canada or he might have balled up and protested it and gone to jail. Or set himself on fire. I understand all I need to about the 1960s and 70s, and I understand why you'd guess his politics would cause him to think a certain way. Was every soldier who served a Patriot who believed in the war? Were there any who thought it was total bullshit and/or weren't big flag waivers but preferred taking their chances rather than go to jail?

    If we were talking about some right wing banana who was what, 6 or 7 years old, when the war started, you'd be shitting a fucking chicken right now and bantering about with your Kunt logic shit. GMAFB.

    At any rate, we were talking about people who actually dodged. What does Obama have to do with it? He hasn't been President for a while now. Does willful speculation about Obama make you feel better about bone spurs?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,210

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

    Yes it's that hard. But I'm not in the business of guessing what a guy who is almost 60 would have done at the beginning of his life based on his family's politics and his educational aspirations.

    I suspect if we were playing this game with someone on the right you'd be flying off with the Kunt logic crap right about now. And save it. I'm not going to Hondo dance with you for three fucking days over what Obama would have done if his aunt had balls. Because IHDGAF.
    Dude

    It isn't that hard. Obama and I are pretty much the same generation. The military was a pariah until Gulf War 1. You had to be there. The guys that did serve got shit on. The war effected a generation.

    Reagan had to schedule FCS Grenada to get the fans to start coming back.

    Plenty of people are assigning motives to Trump with no evidence. Whats the difference. Damone is right, most people would have done what it takes to not go

    Its stupid anyway. We don't elect presidents based on service in the military. They are free to tout it when they run and voters are free to ignore it. Its only GOP presidents that get this shit anyway which was the point that dumb Benny keeps missing.

    If we elected based on service Carter and Bush would have got second terms and Reagan and Clinton would never have got elected. And that would have been a shame

    McCain would have beat Obama

    Use your head read for comprehension you don't get it thats not what I said blah blah blah
    I see what you did there.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Obama couldn't pass a security clearance background to empty trash at an aerospace company. HTH

    Meds dialed in.
    Ask someone who has one. Hanging with Marxists/commies and known terrorists, running for office as a socialist, being mentored by a card carrying commie, having commie mother, Grandparents and a foreign national commie for daddy won't get you far in a background.

    Also couldn't pass a background to be in law enforcement. Associating with felons and drug use......

    It would if you were in charge but we can be thankful for small favors.
    You actually took the time to type that nonsense out?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,204
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Obama couldn't pass a security clearance background to empty trash at an aerospace company. HTH

    Meds dialed in.
    Ask someone who has one. Hanging with Marxists/commies and known terrorists, running for office as a socialist, being mentored by a card carrying commie, having commie mother, Grandparents and a foreign national commie for daddy won't get you far in a background.

    Also couldn't pass a background to be in law enforcement. Associating with felons and drug use......

    It would if you were in charge but we can be thankful for small favors.
    You actually took the time to type that nonsense out?
    You took the time to claim we carried out the Iraq war in the name of the Christian religion Hondo. I don't know about whether Obama would be able to pass a background check but the rest of that "nonsense" is accurate.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

    Yes it's that hard. But I'm not in the business of guessing what a guy who is almost 60 would have done at the beginning of his life based on his family's politics and his educational aspirations.

    I suspect if we were playing this game with someone on the right you'd be flying off with the Kunt logic crap right about now. And save it. I'm not going to Hondo dance with you for three fucking days over what Obama would have done if his aunt had balls. Because IHDGAF.
    Dude

    It isn't that hard. Obama and I are pretty much the same generation. The military was a pariah until Gulf War 1. You had to be there. The guys that did serve got shit on. The war effected a generation.

    Reagan had to schedule FCS Grenada to get the fans to start coming back.

    Plenty of people are assigning motives to Trump with no evidence. Whats the difference. Damone is right, most people would have done what it takes to not go

    Its stupid anyway. We don't elect presidents based on service in the military. They are free to tout it when they run and voters are free to ignore it. Its only GOP presidents that get this shit anyway which was the point that dumb Benny keeps missing.

    If we elected based on service Carter and Bush would have got second terms and Reagan and Clinton would never have got elected. And that would have been a shame

    McCain would have beat Obama

    Use your head read for comprehension you don't get it thats not what I said blah blah blah
    Correct. And the whole “thank you for your service” horsehit that we have today is directly related to, and is an overcompensation for the shitting on of the Vietnam era military members.
    Yup. I served from 1983-2013, and the ‘thank yous’ started after Desert Storm, and it was due to the way they treated the returning Vietnam vets. I don’t judge anyone for evading Vietnam. It was a shitty war, in a shitty place, with a shitty draft, a shitty game plan, the same shitty politicians we have today, and a shitty homecoming. They only thing I’m envious about is the Saigon whorehouses; the Middle East is devoid of such luxuries.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    USMChawk said:

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    Where did General Obama and General Clinton serve?

    Did you vote for both Bushies and McCain?

    That's what I thought

    Tell me Race, did Obama and Clinton shirk their military duties? Is there evidence of this?

    Because there's evidence that CheetoMan and his Great-grandpappy did in fact dodge military duty.

    Is this serious?
    Anyone seriously doubt that if Obama would have been draft eligible in 1968 that he wouldn't have found a way out of going? Obama had no military duties and he ran against a former POW and Military vet and we both know who you voted for.
    Theoretical yellow belly = Actual yellow belly POTW
    Exactly. The fucking blow on not knowing Bubba dodged is fs; but to guess about what Obama might have done and dress it up as effectively factual is also fs. No fucking body knows what he would have done had he grown up in an era where the draft was a thing and was of age and drafted. Lots of people who vote democrat served in Vietnam. Just because he has an IQ doesn't mean he's a coward.

    So after all this, we know that bone spurs and bubba were dodgers. And no matter how much you like Trump, this should not surprise anyone and so in a way it's no big deal. With Clinton it's a bit more scandalous because he built his life on public service. To me, it's more embarrassing for bubba than for bone spurs. Maybe except for Trump's incredibly stupid and ill-advised comment about preferring war heroes who don't get caught. From a guy who wouldn't fight a midget to save his wife's life.

    All this stands in such sharp contrast to the President who just died. A fucking stud who enlisted the very moment he turned at 18 while at fucking Andover. A man who easily could have avoided service with connections and gone to Wall Street to continue his Greenwich lifestyle. But enlisted and flew planes on real missions why still growing hair on his balls. That generation is lost forever.
    Is it really that hard to make an educated prediction on what Obama would have done if he had been older and subject to the draft?

    Marxist father, Commie Mother, Red sympathizing grandfather and grandmother, and a personal mentor who was a Marxist that had been under the observation of the FBI. Couple this with the fact that Obama was headed to college and it's not much of stretch to predict he was never going to get drafted to fight.

    To claim we have no idea what Obama would have done is to ignore everything about his upbringing and influences.

    Yes it's that hard. But I'm not in the business of guessing what a guy who is almost 60 would have done at the beginning of his life based on his family's politics and his educational aspirations.

    I suspect if we were playing this game with someone on the right you'd be flying off with the Kunt logic crap right about now. And save it. I'm not going to Hondo dance with you for three fucking days over what Obama would have done if his aunt had balls. Because IHDGAF.
    Dude

    It isn't that hard. Obama and I are pretty much the same generation. The military was a pariah until Gulf War 1. You had to be there. The guys that did serve got shit on. The war effected a generation.

    Reagan had to schedule FCS Grenada to get the fans to start coming back.

    Plenty of people are assigning motives to Trump with no evidence. Whats the difference. Damone is right, most people would have done what it takes to not go

    Its stupid anyway. We don't elect presidents based on service in the military. They are free to tout it when they run and voters are free to ignore it. Its only GOP presidents that get this shit anyway which was the point that dumb Benny keeps missing.

    If we elected based on service Carter and Bush would have got second terms and Reagan and Clinton would never have got elected. And that would have been a shame

    McCain would have beat Obama

    Use your head read for comprehension you don't get it thats not what I said blah blah blah
    Correct. And the whole “thank you for your service” horsehit that we have today is directly related to, and is an overcompensation for the shitting on of the Vietnam era military members.
    Yup. I served from 1983-2013, and the ‘thank yous’ started after Desert Storm, and it was due to the way they treated the returning Vietnam vets. I don’t judge anyone for evading Vietnam. It was a shitty war, in a shitty place, with a shitty draft, a shitty game plan, the same shitty politicians we have today, and a shitty homecoming. They only thing I’m envious about is the Saigon whorehouses; the Middle East is devoid of such luxuries.
    TYFYS
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