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Marine vet held by ICE for possible deportation is U.S. citizen

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Is there a proposal to replace ICE? I'd hate to think folks just want to eliminate enforcement aka open borders

    Sanctuary cities won't let local law enforcement do the job. Someone has too

    You give a guy a gun and authority and some are going to abuse it. Natural selection made us that way

    Give me an alternative

    We didn’t have open borders before ICE and we won’t have open borders after ICE.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Is there a proposal to replace ICE? I'd hate to think folks just want to eliminate enforcement aka open borders

    Sanctuary cities won't let local law enforcement do the job. Someone has too

    You give a guy a gun and authority and some are going to abuse it. Natural selection made us that way

    Give me an alternative

    We didn’t have open borders before ICE and we won’t have open borders after ICE.
    Get out of here with your logic and reason. Obviously if ICE is abolished, America will become Mexico North.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    Is there a proposal to replace ICE? I'd hate to think folks just want to eliminate enforcement aka open borders

    Sanctuary cities won't let local law enforcement do the job. Someone has too

    You give a guy a gun and authority and some are going to abuse it. Natural selection made us that way

    Give me an alternative

    We didn’t have open borders before ICE and we won’t have open borders after ICE.
    How did those 20 million get here?

    ICE isn't the border patrol. Its law enforcement for the ones here

    They remove the bad seeds

    So the alternative is?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    We have to eliminate it to find out what the alternative is?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    We have to eliminate it to find out what the alternative is?

    True. We’ve got to get it passed so that We can see what’s in it.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    USMChawk said:

    Hmm, a Voter ID card could have prevented this from happening.

    @Crawfish, TRUE??!!?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    We have to eliminate it to find out what the alternative is?

    Case closed
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    If you want to abolish the IRS or Dept of Education you are some sort of dangerous radical kook

    Get rid of border enforcement? Mainstream issue

    Can you explain why your side is so gung ho about the constitution (have to build a wall because constitution, have to have guns because constitution) but you’re now defending an organization that held a US citizen for 3 days without probable cause?
    That's disingenuous

    The IRS wrongfully goes after tax payers. Courts wrongfully convict citizens. The EPA tramples the rights of land owners. The government sucks in general but we got to have one

    Why is ICE different?

    I think you want to abolish them and aren't afraid to say it - apologies if I am wrong

    I'm working on the more timid on your side who post a link and run. I believe our Cortez the Killer wants to abolish it as well along with other democrat politicians. Don't agree but admire the guts to take a stand rather than the usual mealy mouthed gutless approach
    If you want to go after the IRS and EPA be my guest. The difference for me is those two aren’t responsible for hundreds of deaths. They don’t have thousands of sexual assault abuse complaints. They don’t hold war hero’s for 3 days because of the color of their skin. And they don’t separate children from their parents. So you can put lipstick on the old everybody does it argument but everybody doesn’t do that.

    I think we can do better than an agency formed in the dust of 9/11 by the administration that brought us such hits as the Patriot Act, the Iraq War and the Great Recession. But if you don’t think Trump can do better, just say so.
    Your Trump hatred is noted.

    You can stop feigning concern about the rest now.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    If you want to abolish the IRS or Dept of Education you are some sort of dangerous radical kook

    Get rid of border enforcement? Mainstream issue

    Can you explain why your side is so gung ho about the constitution (have to build a wall because constitution, have to have guns because constitution) but you’re now defending an organization that held a US citizen for 3 days without probable cause?
    That's disingenuous

    The IRS wrongfully goes after tax payers. Courts wrongfully convict citizens. The EPA tramples the rights of land owners. The government sucks in general but we got to have one

    Why is ICE different?

    I think you want to abolish them and aren't afraid to say it - apologies if I am wrong

    I'm working on the more timid on your side who post a link and run. I believe our Cortez the Killer wants to abolish it as well along with other democrat politicians. Don't agree but admire the guts to take a stand rather than the usual mealy mouthed gutless approach
    If you want to go after the IRS and EPA be my guest. The difference for me is those two aren’t responsible for hundreds of deaths. They don’t have thousands of sexual assault abuse complaints. They don’t hold war hero’s for 3 days because of the color of their skin. And they don’t separate children from their parents. So you can put lipstick on the old everybody does it argument but everybody doesn’t do that.

    I think we can do better than an agency formed in the dust of 9/11 by the administration that brought us such hits as the Patriot Act, the Iraq War and the Great Recession. But if you don’t think Trump can do better, just say so.
    Your Trump hatred is noted.

    You can stop feigning concern about the rest now.
    Pressing.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited January 2019
    SFGbob said:

    They found out he was a citizen, he was no longer subject to deportation. The system works.

    The Decadent Standard
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    If you want to abolish the IRS or Dept of Education you are some sort of dangerous radical kook

    Get rid of border enforcement? Mainstream issue

    Can you explain why your side is so gung ho about the constitution (have to build a wall because constitution, have to have guns because constitution) but you’re now defending an organization that held a US citizen for 3 days without probable cause?
    That's disingenuous

    The IRS wrongfully goes after tax payers. Courts wrongfully convict citizens. The EPA tramples the rights of land owners. The government sucks in general but we got to have one

    Why is ICE different?

    I think you want to abolish them and aren't afraid to say it - apologies if I am wrong

    I'm working on the more timid on your side who post a link and run. I believe our Cortez the Killer wants to abolish it as well along with other democrat politicians. Don't agree but admire the guts to take a stand rather than the usual mealy mouthed gutless approach
    If you want to go after the IRS and EPA be my guest. The difference for me is those two aren’t responsible for hundreds of deaths. They don’t have thousands of sexual assault abuse complaints. They don’t hold war hero’s for 3 days because of the color of their skin. And they don’t separate children from their parents. So you can put lipstick on the old everybody does it argument but everybody doesn’t do that.

    I think we can do better than an agency formed in the dust of 9/11 by the administration that brought us such hits as the Patriot Act, the Iraq War and the Great Recession. But if you don’t think Trump can do better, just say so.
    Your Trump hatred is noted.

    You can stop feigning concern about the rest now.
    Pressing.
    Dripping.