Logan Loya, 2020 4* WR, Bellflower (St. John Bosco) CA, (Offered 1/16/19)
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Your doogin gave me a hard on.HillsboroDuck said:
Why do you hate Bryant?dirtysouwfdawg said:
Either him or Rome for WR3 this year. Pick wisely...backthepack said:this kid is a fucking JAG
Personally I’m dreaming of a McMillian, Wilson, Rome, Hobert class. Seems unlikely we take that many but that’s dream.
Of course I also want Redman, Adams, Bijan and Ngata and I’m very confident we’re not taking 8 skill guys. Ngata and Bijan aren’t coming here, Sunday is. Can we take those 7?
Gonna be turning away some serious talent this year.
I love Bryant but if we’re looking at McMillan, Wilson, Bryant, & Humphreys (not ruling him out yet due to the triple bro potential); close 50% on those guys and my tier 3 dudes are vying for the 3rd WR spot.
If the football gods smile upon us with Mac and JW, I will drink bleach.
I have limited TBS insight here, more playing the odds at this point.
So yes, based on math I’m bringing value of 1% at this point.
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Rome should be our #3 priority at receiver behind McMillan and Wilson. If those two weren't in the picture I'd be perfectly happy with Odunze as receiver #1.HillsboroDuck said:
Why do you hate Bryant?dirtysouwfdawg said:
Either him or Rome for WR3 this year. Pick wisely...backthepack said:this kid is a fucking JAG
Personally I’m dreaming of a McMillian, Wilson, Rome, Hobert class. Seems unlikely we take that many but that’s dream.
Of course I also want Redman, Adams, Bijan and Ngata and I’m very confident we’re not taking 8 skill guys. Ngata and Bijan aren’t coming here, Sunday is. Can we take those 7?
Gonna be turning away some serious talent this year. -
I didn’t watch the film but based on super accurate and super scientific rankings, that feels like saying Taj would’ve been an acceptable #1.chuck said:
Rome should be our #3 priority at receiver behind McMillan and Wilson. If those two weren't in the picture I'd be perfectly happy with Odunze as receiver #1.HillsboroDuck said:
Why do you hate Bryant?dirtysouwfdawg said:
Either him or Rome for WR3 this year. Pick wisely...backthepack said:this kid is a fucking JAG
Personally I’m dreaming of a McMillian, Wilson, Rome, Hobert class. Seems unlikely we take that many but that’s dream.
Of course I also want Redman, Adams, Bijan and Ngata and I’m very confident we’re not taking 8 skill guys. Ngata and Bijan aren’t coming here, Sunday is. Can we take those 7?
Gonna be turning away some serious talent this year.
Why would you be ok with that? -
I think Odunze has incredible film. He's in another universe compared to Taj. He's very long but still quick as hell and has elite long speed. I think he's more comparable to Nacua but with more reach and more flat out speed. Just my assessment.dirtysouwfdawg said:
I didn’t watch the film but based on super accurate and super scientific rankings, that feels like saying Taj would’ve been an acceptable #1.chuck said:
Rome should be our #3 priority at receiver behind McMillan and Wilson. If those two weren't in the picture I'd be perfectly happy with Odunze as receiver #1.HillsboroDuck said:
Why do you hate Bryant?dirtysouwfdawg said:
Either him or Rome for WR3 this year. Pick wisely...backthepack said:this kid is a fucking JAG
Personally I’m dreaming of a McMillian, Wilson, Rome, Hobert class. Seems unlikely we take that many but that’s dream.
Of course I also want Redman, Adams, Bijan and Ngata and I’m very confident we’re not taking 8 skill guys. Ngata and Bijan aren’t coming here, Sunday is. Can we take those 7?
Gonna be turning away some serious talent this year.
Why would you be ok with that?
Duckincarolina corrected me a few days ago when I said he'd rise in the rankings (which I don't usually see until late in the cycle...I assumed the services had him at 3*. Because that's what his thread title showed) and end up with a fourth star. Apparently he's top 200 and 4* already. -
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Loya said his next visit will likely be to Washington.
“I don’t have anything set up right now but I definitely plan to get to Washington at some point,” Loya said. “Everyone tells me how great it is up there so I know I want to try and check them out. I know they have a great program and a great staff so I’m looking forward to that. I just visited Nebraska for their Spring Game and that was great, I loved it there and had a great time.
“As for official trips, I’m not sure where I’ll visit but I think I’ll most likely wait until the season to take them. I’m still wide open to everyone and don’t have any favorites so I’m not sure where I’ll take my trips. I might just wait until the end of the summer and see where things are at. I could schedule some trips at that time but I’m in no hurry to narrow anything down right now.” -
For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
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This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
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You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
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Especially since when you're 6'5", strong, with great hands and can jump you don't even need to be able to get separation in your routes.LaMichael_Corleone said:
You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
Wilson can though.
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Outside of Fleming, who may be the best HS player I’ve seen on film, these two are the best WRs in the country. There’s a reason Pete fired Lubick early. We don’t get chances like this so we cannot let the standard fall. Johnny Wilson and Jalen McMillan or fucking else. Rome, Gary Bryant, Hobert, Jernigan, Loya can only be discussed AFTER CLOSING those two.HillsboroDuck said:
Especially since when you're 6'5", strong, with great hands and can jump you don't even need to be able to get separation in your routes.LaMichael_Corleone said:
You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
Wilson can though.
I like McMillan better and have said so for months but Wilson's a very close second.
Bush sought out Johnny as an 8th grader against Pete’s wishes for doing so. While we complain about being late on guys, when they strike early it means something. Go back and watch his freshman hudl if you think he’s too stiff, not quick or any of that.
McMillan = Calvin Ridley, Torry Holt, Reuben Randle -
It's not hate. I'm sure Wilson a nice kid and all and he's a great high school player but I think he will suck ass in college. Good jump ball/back shoulder/red zone guy though. But will never be a complete receiver you want on the field most of the game.LaMichael_Corleone said:
You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
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Not even "average" or "ordinary" or "meh"? You really wanna go all the way to "suck ass"? That's ballsy.StrongArmCobra said:
It's not hate. I'm sure Wilson a nice kid and all and he's a great high school player but I think he will suck ass in college. Good jump ball/back shoulder/red zone guy though. But will never be a complete receiver you want on the field most of the game.LaMichael_Corleone said:
You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
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CallMeBigErn said:
Not even "average" or "ordinary" or "meh"? You really wanna go all the way to "suck ass"? That's ballsy.StrongArmCobra said:
It's not hate. I'm sure Wilson a nice kid and all and he's a great high school player but I think he will suck ass in college. Good jump ball/back shoulder/red zone guy though. But will never be a complete receiver you want on the field most of the game.LaMichael_Corleone said:
You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
Again, all threads lead to AIDS. -
I didn't bring it up.CallMeBigErn said:
Not even "average" or "ordinary" or "meh"? You really wanna go all the way to "suck ass"? That's ballsy.StrongArmCobra said:
It's not hate. I'm sure Wilson a nice kid and all and he's a great high school player but I think he will suck ass in college. Good jump ball/back shoulder/red zone guy though. But will never be a complete receiver you want on the field most of the game.LaMichael_Corleone said:
You’ve actually been on a roll lately but man I can’t understand your manufactured hate for Johnny Wilson’s “lack of separation”.StrongArmCobra said:
This is what you want. Guys who get separation and keep the chains moving. 40 times do not always tell the whole story one way or the other. It's about who the fuck can get open and catch the ball. Seems like this kid can do that so I'd be fine if they took him. I'm sick and tired of our receivers being blanketed by our DBs every day in practice. The one who is emerging is not the fastest guy but the one who runs the best routes, Austin Osborne. Of course we want fast guys who run great routes like McMillan but they're rare. You're not gonna get only guys like that. The rest of the guys have to be able to get open by being great route runners and heady technicians.Neighbor2972 said:For us, Loya was the top receiver of the day. The Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco pass catcher drew the most oohs and aahs in the one on one drills for his ability to get separation and create space from a defensive back. He was the most natural pass catcher in the event and showed off his usual wide catch radius making several tough catches throughout the day. He wasn’t happy with his 4.6-40, which is plenty fast enough in our eyes and we have noticed a significant increase in his overall athleticism in the last year. We asked two of the top corner from the event who their toughest cover was and without hesitation, both pointed at Loya.
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“Turning away some serious talent”HillsboroDuck said:
Why do you hate Bryant?dirtysouwfdawg said:
Either him or Rome for WR3 this year. Pick wisely...backthepack said:this kid is a fucking JAG
Personally I’m dreaming of a McMillian, Wilson, Rome, Hobert class. Seems unlikely we take that many but that’s dream.
Of course I also want Redman, Adams, Bijan and Ngata and I’m very confident we’re not taking 8 skill guys. Ngata and Bijan aren’t coming here, Sunday is. Can we take those 7?
Gonna be turning away some serious talent this year.
Possibly your greatest doog moment ever. Crazy how optimism (mine included) fades fast- about a month ago. -
It's still not necessarily untrue at the skill positions.dirtysouwfdawg said:
“Turning away some serious talent”HillsboroDuck said:
Why do you hate Bryant?dirtysouwfdawg said:
Either him or Rome for WR3 this year. Pick wisely...backthepack said:this kid is a fucking JAG
Personally I’m dreaming of a McMillian, Wilson, Rome, Hobert class. Seems unlikely we take that many but that’s dream.
Of course I also want Redman, Adams, Bijan and Ngata and I’m very confident we’re not taking 8 skill guys. Ngata and Bijan aren’t coming here, Sunday is. Can we take those 7?
Gonna be turning away some serious talent this year.
Possibly your greatest doog moment ever. Crazy how optimism (mine included) fades fast- about a month ago.
LIPO
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Loya seems to be coming on strong.
While Wilson was an early ident through the 7vs7 it seems that loya is a real good prospect too -
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Washington- “I have to get up to Washington, I really want to go out and visit. I’ve never been to Washington but everyone I talk with loves it there and talks so highly of the school and how they do things.
“Junior Adams and Will Harris are the coaches talking to me and I’m going to reach out to them and see about going for a visit. I think we had some miscommunication for a little bit there where they might have thought I wasn’t interested in them but I really like them and want to go check them out.” -
Too lateKrunkJuice said:
Washington- “I have to get up to Washington, I really want to go out and visit. I’ve never been to Washington but everyone I talk with loves it there and talks so highly of the school and how they do things.
“Junior Adams and Will Harris are the coaches talking to me and I’m going to reach out to them and see about going for a visit. I think we had some miscommunication for a little bit there where they might have thought I wasn’t interested in them but I really like them and want to go check them out.” -
This is a great sign overall, but there's no chance we take him with the way WR recruiting is going down. Hope he enjoys his visit!KrunkJuice said:
Washington- “I have to get up to Washington, I really want to go out and visit. I’ve never been to Washington but everyone I talk with loves it there and talks so highly of the school and how they do things.
“Junior Adams and Will Harris are the coaches talking to me and I’m going to reach out to them and see about going for a visit. I think we had some miscommunication for a little bit there where they might have thought I wasn’t interested in them but I really like them and want to go check them out.” -
Pretty sure the miscommunication has something to do with the WRs we’re in on that are much, MUCH better than him.
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Someone is having regrets. Hope he enjoys oregon
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Somehow @LaMichael_Corleone was involved in this 'miscommunication'
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Lets not make fun too much. He's a good player and would be a fine addition here. He's just not an elite athlete with deep speed. More of a possession slot guy who's very quick, runs great routes, and gets open consistently. Maybe we'll circle back to him if we miss on Gary Bryant. But right now, Junior Adams has me dreaming of a WR class of McMillian, Odunze, and Bryant. That would be DIFFERENT.
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McMillan, Wilson and Odunze >StrongArmCobra said:Lets not make fun too much. He's a good player and would be a fine addition here. He's just not an elite athlete with deep speed. More of a possession slot guy who's very quick, runs great routes, and gets open consistently. Maybe we'll circle back to him if we miss on Gary Bryant. But right now, Junior Adams has me dreaming of a WR class of McMillian, Odunze, and Bryant. That would be DIFFERENT.
Bryant is like Loya. Good player. Not the caliber of what we can hope for in this class. -
Disagree. Bryant is John Ross-esque. He's elite.dnc said:
McMillan, Wilson and Odunze >StrongArmCobra said:Lets not make fun too much. He's a good player and would be a fine addition here. He's just not an elite athlete with deep speed. More of a possession slot guy who's very quick, runs great routes, and gets open consistently. Maybe we'll circle back to him if we miss on Gary Bryant. But right now, Junior Adams has me dreaming of a WR class of McMillian, Odunze, and Bryant. That would be DIFFERENT.
Bryant is like Loya. Good player. Not the caliber of what we can hope for in this class. -
What the fuck NOOOO!!! Bryant is an elite burner with deep speed and elusiveness!! We want him more than fucking Wilson! He has an OV scheduled with UW for the SC game. Wilson wasn't invited to visit this Spring or Summer and doesn't have an OV scheduled with UW. We're not taking fucking Wilson!!dnc said:
McMillan, Wilson and Odunze >StrongArmCobra said:Lets not make fun too much. He's a good player and would be a fine addition here. He's just not an elite athlete with deep speed. More of a possession slot guy who's very quick, runs great routes, and gets open consistently. Maybe we'll circle back to him if we miss on Gary Bryant. But right now, Junior Adams has me dreaming of a WR class of McMillian, Odunze, and Bryant. That would be DIFFERENT.
Bryant is like Loya. Good player. Not the caliber of what we can hope for in this class. -
Bryant is big time and someone the staff is definitely prioritizingdnc said:
McMillan, Wilson and Odunze >StrongArmCobra said:Lets not make fun too much. He's a good player and would be a fine addition here. He's just not an elite athlete with deep speed. More of a possession slot guy who's very quick, runs great routes, and gets open consistently. Maybe we'll circle back to him if we miss on Gary Bryant. But right now, Junior Adams has me dreaming of a WR class of McMillian, Odunze, and Bryant. That would be DIFFERENT.
Bryant is like Loya. Good player. Not the caliber of what we can hope for in this class.
