How do you explain to people that like to waste money on ineffective walls that the majority of illegal immigrants simply overstayed their visas?
Exactly.. And notice how no one answered my questions? Like what is this money even going to be used for and how will that reduce illegal immigration?
Ask Obama and Bernie when they voted to fund physical boarder security in 2006. They must know how it’s going to be used.
Or just admit this is political theater and whatever trump wants, dems are against. Even if they agree with it. Trump could say he wants to foregive all student loans, have free college, and 100% “free” healthcare and they would be against it.
Whatever happened to DACA. That was a big deal a few months ago. Trump said fine, they get amnesty and give me wall money. The dems said fuck you. You will not get a win even if it means we help everyone we pretend we want to help. The “dreamer” horseshit went away after Trump tied it to wall funding. They want dreamers to be fucked so they can be right.
Sad!
We've been over this. You blame Democrats. But Republicans could have passed the border wall funding but they don't want it either.
That being said, no one still knows what the money will be used for or how it will reduce illegal immigration in a meaningful way. Got it!!!
BTW, Democrats aren't saying they don't want border security. They are saying building a wall won't help. But your response bringing up Obama and Bernie is another perfect simple mind syndrome example. It's almost like a vote for border security is different than a vote for a wall.
My question, you dumb shit, is why did democrats vote for wall money then, but now a “wall won’t help”? I blame democrats? When have I done that? Pay attention you dumb fuck. How many times do I need to tell you I don’t want a wall. My point is for the dems it’s not about a wall and if it will help or not, it’s not about immigration or helping immigrants , or money. It’s about preventing trump from fulfilling a campaign promise. That’s their strategy for winning in 2020.
Also, you don’t understand the nuclear option. At all.
How do you explain to people that like to waste money on ineffective walls that the majority of illegal immigrants simply overstayed their visas?
Exactly.. And notice how no one answered my questions? Like what is this money even going to be used for and how will that reduce illegal immigration?
Ask Obama and Bernie when they voted to fund physical boarder security in 2006. They must know how it’s going to be used.
Or just admit this is political theater and whatever trump wants, dems are against. Even if they agree with it. Trump could say he wants to foregive all student loans, have free college, and 100% “free” healthcare and they would be against it.
Whatever happened to DACA. That was a big deal a few months ago. Trump said fine, they get amnesty and give me wall money. The dems said fuck you. You will not get a win even if it means we help everyone we pretend we want to help. The “dreamer” horseshit went away after Trump tied it to wall funding. They want dreamers to be fucked so they can be right.
Sad!
We've been over this. You blame Democrats. But Republicans could have passed the border wall funding but they don't want it either.
That being said, no one still knows what the money will be used for or how it will reduce illegal immigration in a meaningful way. Got it!!!
BTW, Democrats aren't saying they don't want border security. They are saying building a wall won't help. But your response bringing up Obama and Bernie is another perfect simple mind syndrome example. It's almost like a vote for border security is different than a vote for a wall.
My question, you dumb shit, is why did democrats vote for wall money then, but now a “wall won’t help”? I blame democrats? When have I done that? Pay attention you dumb fuck. How many times do I need to tell you I don’t want a wall. My point is for the dems it’s not about a wall and if it will help or not, it’s not about immigration or helping immigrants , or money. It’s about preventing trump from fulfilling a campaign promise. That’s their strategy for winning in 2020.
Also, you don’t understand the nuclear option. At all.
Educate yourself on the difference between that bill and what Trump wants. It's almost like context is lost on you.
How do you explain to people that like to waste money on ineffective walls that the majority of illegal immigrants simply overstayed their visas?
Exactly.. And notice how no one answered my questions? Like what is this money even going to be used for and how will that reduce illegal immigration?
Ask Obama and Bernie when they voted to fund physical boarder security in 2006. They must know how it’s going to be used.
Or just admit this is political theater and whatever trump wants, dems are against. Even if they agree with it. Trump could say he wants to foregive all student loans, have free college, and 100% “free” healthcare and they would be against it.
Whatever happened to DACA. That was a big deal a few months ago. Trump said fine, they get amnesty and give me wall money. The dems said fuck you. You will not get a win even if it means we help everyone we pretend we want to help. The “dreamer” horseshit went away after Trump tied it to wall funding. They want dreamers to be fucked so they can be right.
Sad!
We've been over this. You blame Democrats. But Republicans could have passed the border wall funding but they don't want it either.
That being said, no one still knows what the money will be used for or how it will reduce illegal immigration in a meaningful way. Got it!!!
BTW, Democrats aren't saying they don't want border security. They are saying building a wall won't help. But your response bringing up Obama and Bernie is another perfect simple mind syndrome example. It's almost like a vote for border security is different than a vote for a wall.
My question, you dumb shit, is why did democrats vote for wall money then, but now a “wall won’t help”? I blame democrats? When have I done that? Pay attention you dumb fuck. How many times do I need to tell you I don’t want a wall. My point is for the dems it’s not about a wall and if it will help or not, it’s not about immigration or helping immigrants , or money. It’s about preventing trump from fulfilling a campaign promise. That’s their strategy for winning in 2020.
Also, you don’t understand the nuclear option. At all.
Educate yourself on the difference between that bill and what Trump wants. It's almost like context is lost on you.
I have but you can't read. The nuclear option is good enough to approve a supreme court justice but not to pass $5 billion in spending?
Harry Reid already used the nuclear option for judicial appointments. The Republicans just returned the favor. The filibuster still exists for legislation.
And I read just fine.
That legislation doesn’t have the 60 votes needed for passage in the Senate, so Trump urged Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to resort to the “nuclear option” and change the rules to pass his pet project with just a simple 51-vote majority.
Now why are you such a dishonest piece of shit Hondo?
I have but you can't read. The nuclear option is good enough to approve a supreme court justice but not to pass $5 billion in spending?
Harry Reid already used the nuclear option for judicial appointments. The Republicans just returned the favor. The filibuster still exists for legislation.
And I read just fine.
That legislation doesn’t have the 60 votes needed for passage in the Senate, so Trump urged Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to resort to the “nuclear option” and change the rules to pass his pet project with just a simple 51-vote majority.
Now why are you such a dishonest piece of shit Hondo?
Dishonest? What in your post shows anything about me being dishonest? Answer the question. Why is the nuclear option good enough for a supreme Court Justice but not Trump's wall? I mean it can be done and if Republicans actually want to do it, why don't they?
I have but you can't read. The nuclear option is good enough to approve a supreme court justice but not to pass $5 billion in spending?
Harry Reid already used the nuclear option for judicial appointments. The Republicans just returned the favor. The filibuster still exists for legislation.
And I read just fine.
That legislation doesn’t have the 60 votes needed for passage in the Senate, so Trump urged Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to resort to the “nuclear option” and change the rules to pass his pet project with just a simple 51-vote majority.
Now why are you such a dishonest piece of shit Hondo?
Dishonest? What in your post shows anything about me being dishonest? Answer the question. Why is the nuclear option good enough for a supreme Court Justice but not Trump's wall? I mean it can be done and if Republicans actually want to do it, why don't they?
A boot right in your lying dishonest Kunt, that's the only response you deserve Hondo. The filibuster for Judicial appointments was destroyed by Harry Reid. Because the GOP understands that blowing up the filibuster for legislation set a very dangerous precedent they aren't willing to be as irresponsible as the Rats. As of right now under the existing rules the GOP still needs 60 votes. You claimed that statement is a lie. As usual, the only liar is you.
I have but you can't read. The nuclear option is good enough to approve a supreme court justice but not to pass $5 billion in spending?
Harry Reid already used the nuclear option for judicial appointments. The Republicans just returned the favor. The filibuster still exists for legislation.
And I read just fine.
That legislation doesn’t have the 60 votes needed for passage in the Senate, so Trump urged Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to resort to the “nuclear option” and change the rules to pass his pet project with just a simple 51-vote majority.
Now why are you such a dishonest piece of shit Hondo?
Dishonest? What in your post shows anything about me being dishonest? Answer the question. Why is the nuclear option good enough for a supreme Court Justice but not Trump's wall? I mean it can be done and if Republicans actually want to do it, why don't they?
A boot right in your lying dishonest Kunt, that's the only response you deserve Hondo. The filibuster for Judicial appointments was destroyed by Harry Reid. Because the GOP understands that blowing up the filibuster for legislation set a very dangerous precedent they aren't willing to be as irresponsible as the Rats. As of right now under the existing rules the GOP still needs 60 votes. You claimed that statement is a lie. As usual, the only liar is you.
Visa overstay seems simple. Deny ID, deny airport/ train station entry, deny employment, deny school for children, deny US PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, deny all social benefits, without current visa. Ramp up funding for Visa processing staff.
Visa overstay seems simple. Deny ID, deny airport/ train station entry, deny employment, deny school for children, deny US PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, deny all social benefits, without current visa. Ramp up funding for Visa processing staff.
There are rules in place for all of that. Tho the Trump admin is not doing a good job enforcing them as there's still 11 million illegals here.
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Also, you don’t understand the nuclear option. At all.
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061026-1.html
Oh yeah.... This is the president of the United States, do you have a better understanding of the nuclear option than our president?
Sarktastic hates the words of his fearless leader.
So therefore stopping the other 50 is pointless.
Jesus fuck.
And I read just fine.
That legislation doesn’t have the 60 votes needed for passage in the Senate, so Trump urged Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to resort to the “nuclear option” and change the rules to pass his pet project with just a simple 51-vote majority.
Now why are you such a dishonest piece of shit Hondo?
No that's not the argument. Explain how this $5 billion will actually have a meaningful effect on the other 50.
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/aug/24/kevin-mccarthy/mostly-true-visa-overstays-account-half-all-people/
I say we go fix this, too. Require ID for everything and boot those folks out who have overstayed their welcome.