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HuskyJW
HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279
edited February 16 in College Football Forum
Gets that coveted honorable mention Pac-12 award. Or is he going to have to come back for his senior year for that?
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  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    Herbert sucks. Was that your point? Because almost everyone here agrees.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    Herbert sucks. Was that your point? Because almost everyone here agrees.

    No he doesn't. Duck fans want to push that narrative so he stays. He'd be an idiot not to declare for the draft. Top 5 money is a no brainer decision. Then again he might be stupid.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    edited November 2018
    whuggy said:

    Herbert sucks. Was that your point? Because almost everyone here agrees.

    No he doesn't. Duck fans want to push that narrative so he stays. He'd be an idiot not to declare for the draft. Top 5 money is a no brainer decision. Then again he might be stupid.
    Gather yourself and try again. It sounds like you don’t even know what your point is.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks. Was that your point? Because almost everyone here agrees.

    My point was asking if Justin Herbert will come back for his senior year to get the coveted honorable mention all Pac-12 award.
    Strong arm level trolling. Well done.

    As you were...
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited November 2018

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    Except Gaskins has been consistently good since day one.

    Herbert is still working on his reads.

    NOGAF about top 5 pick projections.
    I’m not saying Herbert is great. I was replying to @Strongarmcobra’s retarded take the Herbert’s talent is being wasted at Oregon.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited November 2018

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    Except Gaskins has been consistently good since day one.

    Herbert is still working on his reads.

    NOGAF about top 5 pick projections.
    I’m not saying Herbert is great. I was replying to @Strongarmcobra’s retarded take the Herbert’s talent is being wasted at Oregon.
    Herbert's "talent" is being wasted at Oregon.

    With those measurables, he should be lighting up the stat sheet. He doesn't. He's an a'ight Pac-12 QB. Just a'ight.

    He's had shit coaching if he's still waiting to get his reads down the end of year 3.

    Lockner also had great “measurables”.

    Herbert locks on too early where he’s throwing the football.

    Herbert has zero touch on his passes

    Herbert does not make smart decisions, and should have more INT’s than he does now.

    My point being...Gaskins could be great almost anywhere. Also, he can’t win the big games at UW, because he’s surrounded by a noodle arm quarterback, a below average offensive line, and a head coach who lost the edge that originally made him great.

    If you’re saying Herbert’s talent is being wasted at UO, you can make the same argument for Gaskins. Problem being, some of you need to take the purple glasses off and actually realize the harsh reality of the situation.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited November 2018

    Probably should wait to see if Gaskin is a one time or two time league champ before comparing him to a second division qb

    How impressive is that actually? Three loss conference champs!!!...sweet
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,918 Founders Club
    Your point was that comparing Gaskin to Hubert is stupid?
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,918 Founders Club

    Probably should wait to see if Gaskin is a one time or two time league champ before comparing him to a second division qb

    How impressive is that actually? Three loss conference champs!!!...sweet
    Better than second division

    Winners win
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
    Missing my point again...
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279

    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
    Missing my point again...
    No...we're not.

    It's because you don't have one.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited November 2018
    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
    Missing my point again...
    No...we're not.

    It's because you don't have one.
    My point

    Gaskin is great, Herbert isn't.

    @Strongarmcobra claims that Herbert's talent is being wasted at Oregon. My argument is that he doesn't have as much talent as other people claim. While Herbert is tall, athletic, and has a cannon of an arm, so were Jake Lockner and Derek Anderson, and they didn't amount to anything.

    Miles Gaskins is an all-time husky great and will most likely not have a single major bowl win in his career. Which is in large part due to an under performing offensive line, a noodle arm quarterback, and and a head coach who lost his edge. That is wasting talent.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
    Missing my point again...
    No...we're not.

    It's because you don't have one.
    My point

    Gaskin is great, Herbert isn't.

    @Strongarmcobra claims that Herbert's talent is being wasted at Oregon. My argument is that he doesn't have as much talent as other people claim. While Herbert is tall, athletic, and has a cannon of an arm, so were Jake Lockner and Derek Anderson, and they didn't amount to anything.

    Miles Gaskins is an all-time husky great and will most likely not have a single major bowl win in his career. Which is in large part due to an under performing offensive line, a noodle arm quarterback, and and a head coach who lost his edge. That is wasting talent.
    Like I said, Gaskin came out of high school an unheralded 3-star recruit. He has helped take a mediocre 7-6 program and win a conference title, lead UW to their first college football playoff appearance, and win back to back 10 win seasons which hadn't been done at UW in 20 years all while breaking UW rushing records. You're reaching so fucking hard. Gaskin overachieved at UW. There is no other program in the nation he could have had a better career at period. Herbert on the other hand was thrown into the fire as a true Freshman and has had to deal with shit coaching and coaching changes his entire career. He was a broken leg in high school away from getting a UW offer and being a Dawg and he would have been much better off.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,732 Founders Club

    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
    Missing my point again...
    No...we're not.

    It's because you don't have one.
    My point

    Gaskin is great, Herbert isn't.

    @Strongarmcobra claims that Herbert's talent is being wasted at Oregon. My argument is that he doesn't have as much talent as other people claim. While Herbert is tall, athletic, and has a cannon of an arm, so were Jake Lockner and Derek Anderson, and they didn't amount to anything.

    Miles Gaskins is an all-time husky great and will most likely not have a single major bowl win in his career. Which is in large part due to an under performing offensive line, a noodle arm quarterback, and and a head coach who lost his edge. That is wasting talent.
    Awful, awful take.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited November 2018
    haie said:

    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    Minus

    Herbert sucks like Sam Darnold sucked his last season at SC which means he doesn't actually suck. He's still a clear NFL talent but he has regressed and lost confidence because the OC he's working with is shit, the play calls are shit, and he has only one guy to throw to. He'll be a better pro than college player because he'll get better coaching and have better talent to throw to. His talent is wasted at Oregon.

    Just like Gaskin’s talent being wasted at UW?
    WTF how? What other program would he have been better off at? He's UW's all-time career leading rusher. He's a hometown kid who's a 4-year starter for his hometown team. His talent has flourished and has been showcased as much as possible. For a 3-star recruit who doesn't have prototypical NFL size, he has overachieved at UW.
    The similarities are mind boggling.

    Herbert three star recruit
    Herbert home grown kid
    Herbert might be Oregon’s all time leading passer after next year
    Herbert like every other college football player since 2000, has been showcased
    Herbert possible top 5 NFL pick.
    Herbert hasn’t won a major bowl game. Has Gaskins?
    Herbert not heavily recruited

    It's not close at all.

    Gaskin isn't UW's all time leading passer...in fact I don't think has ever thrown a pass.

    He won't be drafted top 5.

    Gaskin is a Pa 12 Champion and won numerous post season honors.
    Missing my point again...
    No...we're not.

    It's because you don't have one.
    My point

    Gaskin is great, Herbert isn't.

    @Strongarmcobra claims that Herbert's talent is being wasted at Oregon. My argument is that he doesn't have as much talent as other people claim. While Herbert is tall, athletic, and has a cannon of an arm, so were Jake Lockner and Derek Anderson, and they didn't amount to anything.

    Miles Gaskins is an all-time husky great and will most likely not have a single major bowl win in his career. Which is in large part due to an under performing offensive line, a noodle arm quarterback, and and a head coach who lost his edge. That is wasting talent.
    Awful, awful take.
    Truth hurts...
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    Probably should wait to see if Gaskin is a one time or two time league champ before comparing him to a second division qb

    LEAGUE CHAMPIANS!!!!

  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    duck fans are proud of finishing near the bottom of this shit league

    Wouldn't want to win it. Happy not to

    go ducks

    I just happy for Gaskin. He’ll be able to roll into some NFL locker room next year popping off about being a 2 time* league champ!!! in college.

    Maybe*
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    duck fans are proud of finishing near the bottom of this shit league

    Wouldn't want to win it. Happy not to

    go ducks

    I just happy for Gaskin. He’ll be able to roll into some NFL locker room next year popping off about being a 2 time* league champ!!! in college.

    Maybe*
    Way more than Herbert will be able say. 4-8, 7-6 and Vegas Bowl appearance, maybe 8-5 and Holiday bowl appearance. What a great career for him at Oregon. No way he could have done better elsewhere.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    duck fans are proud of finishing near the bottom of this shit league

    Wouldn't want to win it. Happy not to

    go ducks

    I just happy for Gaskin. He’ll be able to roll into some NFL locker room next year popping off about being a 2 time* league champ!!! in college.

    Maybe*
    Way more than Herbert will be able say. 4-8, 7-6 and Vegas Bowl appearance, maybe 8-5 and Holiday bowl appearance. What a great career for him at Oregon. No way he could have done better elsewhere.
    When you’re comparing your superstar running backs career to Guy Herbert’s, you’ve already lost.