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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Please, yes, let’s have a shut down. No White House tours or Lincoln memorial tours for 2 weeks. Ouch!

    2001400ex said:

    FRe

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there was a "system" that I could rig, why would I rig it to make poor people poorer? I'd rig it to make poor people richer so that I could get many of their parasitic asses off of the public teat thus saving me big $$$$ in tax dollars.

    “Why do rich people take more money from poor people instead of giving poor people more of their money?”

    A mystery indeed.
    Take? Unless you’re talking about government, no one is taking, except government.

    The rich freely give more than anyone. And what fucking business is it of anyone what a person does with their property?
    I don't know about "freely" but the richest 1% currently pay nearly 40% of all income taxes. If they've "rigged" the system, they sure have done a shitty job at it.
    When I said freely I meant by their own free will. Taxation isn’t giving freely, it’s taking under the threat of violence.
    Under threat of violence? El oh fucking El.
    Refuse to pay taxes and see what happens. Dumb fuck.

    So if a person gets sentenced to prison for not paying taxes, they can just ignore it, or will people who can leaglly have automatic weapons come for them?
    IRS agents don't legally carry fully automatic weapons. HTH
    So refuse to go to prison for tax issues and see if you’re met with violence. Or maybe it’s just a suggestion.

    When did I say “fully” in relation to the IRS? That’s your word. Idiot.

    Also, as usual, you’re an idiot. https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2017/10/20/why-are-federal-bureaucrats-buying-guns-and-ammo-158-million-spent-by-non-military-agencies/#56b93e3a64a1
    Sounds scary. Pussy.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Please, yes, let’s have a shut down. No White House tours or Lincoln memorial tours for 2 weeks. Ouch!

    2001400ex said:

    FRe

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there was a "system" that I could rig, why would I rig it to make poor people poorer? I'd rig it to make poor people richer so that I could get many of their parasitic asses off of the public teat thus saving me big $$$$ in tax dollars.

    “Why do rich people take more money from poor people instead of giving poor people more of their money?”

    A mystery indeed.
    Take? Unless you’re talking about government, no one is taking, except government.

    The rich freely give more than anyone. And what fucking business is it of anyone what a person does with their property?
    I don't know about "freely" but the richest 1% currently pay nearly 40% of all income taxes. If they've "rigged" the system, they sure have done a shitty job at it.
    When I said freely I meant by their own free will. Taxation isn’t giving freely, it’s taking under the threat of violence.
    Under threat of violence? El oh fucking El.
    Refuse to pay taxes and see what happens. Dumb fuck.

    So if a person gets sentenced to prison for not paying taxes, they can just ignore it, or will people who can leaglly have automatic weapons come for them?
    IRS agents don't legally carry fully automatic weapons. HTH



    The bad ass gun-toting accountants are in the FBI.

    I know several FBI agents. They don't carry fully automatic weapons either.
    What does the FBI have to do this this conversation? Also, many FBI agents carry “fully” automatic weapons. The fact you don’t know any is irrelevant.
    Christ, Damone. Unloosen thy sphincter. I do, in fact, know several FBI agents and Secret Service guys.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Please, yes, let’s have a shut down. No White House tours or Lincoln memorial tours for 2 weeks. Ouch!

    2001400ex said:

    FRe

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there was a "system" that I could rig, why would I rig it to make poor people poorer? I'd rig it to make poor people richer so that I could get many of their parasitic asses off of the public teat thus saving me big $$$$ in tax dollars.

    “Why do rich people take more money from poor people instead of giving poor people more of their money?”

    A mystery indeed.
    Take? Unless you’re talking about government, no one is taking, except government.

    The rich freely give more than anyone. And what fucking business is it of anyone what a person does with their property?
    I don't know about "freely" but the richest 1% currently pay nearly 40% of all income taxes. If they've "rigged" the system, they sure have done a shitty job at it.
    When I said freely I meant by their own free will. Taxation isn’t giving freely, it’s taking under the threat of violence.
    Under threat of violence? El oh fucking El.
    Refuse to pay taxes and see what happens. Dumb fuck.

    So if a person gets sentenced to prison for not paying taxes, they can just ignore it, or will people who can leaglly have automatic weapons come for them?
    IRS agents don't legally carry fully automatic weapons. HTH



    The bad ass gun-toting accountants are in the FBI.

    I know several FBI agents. They don't carry fully automatic weapons either.
    What does the FBI have to do this this conversation? Also, many FBI agents carry “fully” automatic weapons. The fact you don’t know any is irrelevant.
    Christ, Damone. Unloosen thy sphincter. I do, in fact, know several FBI agents and Secret Service guys.

    I’m sorry. You appeared to be being a bitch to Hondo. That’s cool. Tighten the sphincter back up.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    We live in a system where dead beats get a refund that is more than what they paid in taxes in a given year.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    So why don't rich people rig the system to make poor people richer Hondo? Try not to hurt yourself dodging the question Kunt.

    It's clear you've never owned a business or been involved in business decisions. But the vast majority of businesses keep wages and benefits down as best they can. Hence why they spend so much money fighting unions. The lower the wages are, the more money the owners can put in their pocket.
    Thank you, Kshama. Your economic ignorance is so helpful at keeping poor people poor. Great job.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2018

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there was a "system" that I could rig, why would I rig it to make poor people poorer? I'd rig it to make poor people richer so that I could get many of their parasitic asses off of the public teat thus saving me big $$$$ in tax dollars.

    “Why do rich people take more money from poor people instead of giving poor people more of their money?”

    A mystery indeed.
    Take? Unless you’re talking about government, no one is taking, except government.

    The rich freely give more than anyone. And what fucking business is it of anyone what a person does with their property?
    The rich have always taken a greater share of the value that their laborers produce. It evened out some following the New Deal but unionbusting and deregulation carried out by Reagan and Clinton gutted the middle class. The financial crisis and tepid recovery under Obama twisted the knife.
    Seems to me that plenty of rich folks created wealth that didn't exist prior to their labor. If your beliefs were accurate why wouldn't we have a 1920s GDP today?

    Who did Bill Gates steal his money from?

    “Why wouldn’t we have a 1920s GDP today?”

    Explain how you think economic growth works? It’s a rhetorical question but still one of the dumbest you’ve ever offered.

    The tens of thousands of employees at Microsoft and Facebook receive in income a fraction of the value they create for people like Gates, Zuckerberg, and the companies’ upper management/shareholders.
    Resident Marxist just revealed himself.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    So why don't rich people rig the system to make poor people richer Hondo? Try not to hurt yourself dodging the question Kunt.

    It's clear you've never owned a business or been involved in business decisions. But the vast majority of businesses keep wages and benefits down as best they can. Hence why they spend so much money fighting unions. The lower the wages are, the more money the owners can put in their pocket.
    Thank you, Kshama. Your economic ignorance is so helpful at keeping poor people poor. Great job.
    Funny how you throw that out but don't actually refute the argument. Great discussion as always!!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited November 2018

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited November 2018

    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

    Throbber you are smarter than that. Read the post.... The example about football refs. It's not rigged against 100% of the people. Just like some wealthy people go bankrupt.

    I do find it odd that the crowd that says we need to end food stamps to get people back to work. Is arguing against the fact the system is rigged to keep poor people poor.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited November 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

    Throbber you are smarter than that. Read the post.... The example about football refs. It's not rigged against 100% of the people. Just like some wealthy people go bankrupt.

    I do find it odd that the crowd that says we need to end food stamps to get people back to work. Is arguing against the fact the system is rigged to keep poor people poor.
    Still didn't answer the question. how did those people listed beat 'the system'? P-Diddy, Daymon John, Richard Parsons?

    did they get the willie wonka magic 'avoid the rigged system' ticket? If they did, that should be advertised so all the po' people at least have some hope beyond food stamps from the man.

    Or maybe they just worked like motherfuckers and took advantage of the opportunities presented to them or created their own? The system is rigged is bullshit. Some people get a head start because of looks or last name or whatever - but there's literally nothing holding anybody back in this country from achieving greatness.

    So, yeah, I am smarter than that.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    FRe

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there was a "system" that I could rig, why would I rig it to make poor people poorer? I'd rig it to make poor people richer so that I could get many of their parasitic asses off of the public teat thus saving me big $$$$ in tax dollars.

    “Why do rich people take more money from poor people instead of giving poor people more of their money?”

    A mystery indeed.
    Take? Unless you’re talking about government, no one is taking, except government.

    The rich freely give more than anyone. And what fucking business is it of anyone what a person does with their property?
    I don't know about "freely" but the richest 1% currently pay nearly 40% of all income taxes. If they've "rigged" the system, they sure have done a shitty job at it.
    When I said freely I meant by their own free will. Taxation isn’t giving freely, it’s taking under the threat of violence.
    Under threat of violence? El oh fucking El.
    What happens to people who don't pay there taxes Hondo?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

    Throbber you are smarter than that. Read the post.... The example about football refs. It's not rigged against 100% of the people. Just like some wealthy people go bankrupt.

    I do find it odd that the crowd that says we need to end food stamps to get people back to work. Is arguing against the fact the system is rigged to keep poor people poor.
    You find it odd that people people are capable of arguing two separate points that have nothing to do with each other? Given your pea sized brain I find that easy to believe.

    Saying the system is rigged to keep poor people poor, which you did, is bullshit. Saying eliminating welfare would push many people back into the work force doesn't have anything to do with your statement.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    So why don't rich people rig the system to make poor people richer Hondo? Try not to hurt yourself dodging the question Kunt.

    It's clear you've never owned a business or been involved in business decisions. But the vast majority of businesses keep wages and benefits down as best they can. Hence why they spend so much money fighting unions. The lower the wages are, the more money the owners can put in their pocket.
    But your claim is that the system is rigged to keep poor people poorer Hondo. These people in your little story appear to have jobs. So the "system" has given them a job.

    Businesses pay the wages and benefits they need to in order to attract the workforce necessary to conduct their business. Plenty of money going into the pockets of Google and Facebook but I wouldn't say that their employees are being made poor.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

    Throbber you are smarter than that. Read the post.... The example about football refs. It's not rigged against 100% of the people. Just like some wealthy people go bankrupt.

    I do find it odd that the crowd that says we need to end food stamps to get people back to work. Is arguing against the fact the system is rigged to keep poor people poor.
    Still didn't answer the question. how did those people listed beat 'the system'? P-Diddy, Daymon John, Richard Parsons?

    did they get the willie wonka magic 'avoid the rigged system' ticket? If they did, that should be advertised so all the po' people at least have some hope beyond food stamps from the man.

    Or maybe they just worked like motherfuckers and took advantage of the opportunities presented to them or created their own? The system is rigged is bullshit. Some people get a head start because of looks or last name or whatever - but there's literally nothing holding anybody back in this country from achieving greatness.

    So, yeah, I am smarter than that.

    I didn't say there was no way out. Literally my next statement is our country probably has the best system to help people get out as well, with Pell Grants and shit.

    BTW. It didn't go unnoticed that you only mentioned wealthy black people.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Hondo thinks because he contradicts himself in his head up the ass claim about the "system" making poor people poorer, that means he never put his head up his ass in the first place.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter
    Of course the rich get richer. Ever heard the term "it takes money to make money"? Evidently some think this is magic fairy dust. They have money and they use it to make more. HTH
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited November 2018
    I'm not arguing that rich people don't get richer, my point of contention is that the "system" makes poor people poorer and that rich people get richer by taking wealth from poor people. That's obviously a position that these petty little Marxists believe but not one that they are able to defend.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

    Throbber you are smarter than that. Read the post.... The example about football refs. It's not rigged against 100% of the people. Just like some wealthy people go bankrupt.

    I do find it odd that the crowd that says we need to end food stamps to get people back to work. Is arguing against the fact the system is rigged to keep poor people poor.
    Still didn't answer the question. how did those people listed beat 'the system'? P-Diddy, Daymon John, Richard Parsons?

    did they get the willie wonka magic 'avoid the rigged system' ticket? If they did, that should be advertised so all the po' people at least have some hope beyond food stamps from the man.

    Or maybe they just worked like motherfuckers and took advantage of the opportunities presented to them or created their own? The system is rigged is bullshit. Some people get a head start because of looks or last name or whatever - but there's literally nothing holding anybody back in this country from achieving greatness.

    So, yeah, I am smarter than that.

    I didn't say there was no way out. Literally my next statement is our country probably has the best system to help people get out as well, with Pell Grants and shit.

    BTW. It didn't go unnoticed that you only mentioned wealthy black people.
    Your google works as good as mine.


  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Seems to be working out for them, doesn't it?


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited November 2018
    So the size of the "pie" in 1962 is the same size it is today?

    The gap in my wealth and Mark Zuckerberg's wealth has exploded in the last 15 years, how has that hurt me? How am I worse off because Zuckerberg has gotten ridiculously wealthy? Who did he steal that money from?
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    SFGbob said:

    So the size of the "pie" in 1962 is the same size it is today?

    Are you kidding?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Are you dodging?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    So why don't rich people rig the system to make poor people richer Hondo? Try not to hurt yourself dodging the question Kunt.

    It's clear you've never owned a business or been involved in business decisions. But the vast majority of businesses keep wages and benefits down as best they can. Hence why they spend so much money fighting unions. The lower the wages are, the more money the owners can put in their pocket.
    Thank you, Kshama. Your economic ignorance is so helpful at keeping poor people poor. Great job.
    Funny how you throw that out but don't actually refute the argument. Great discussion as always!!
    I get it. Guys like you hate Free Speech.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why do they pay most of the income tax? Leftards really don't think things through. Explain the Oregon PERS system to me and how it is rigged for the rich? Explain why leftards are opposed to vouchers that would give poor black kids and their parents a fighting chance?

    Well this is a stupid line to take.

    Let’s say there’s a football game and the referees decide they’re only going to call penalties on the away team. Now, the away team could still win but the home team has been given an unfair advantage. That is what we are describing as rigged. It’s not 100% outcome decided rigged but rigged fits the situation. The reason it’s this way is because we have elections. They avoid big dick swinging fuck you moves, for the most part, and instead take smaller steps hoping you won’t notice (it’s working).

    You may disagree with the way the word is being used but if you can’t figure out what we mean then you’re just being a fucking idiot. It comes across like you reached your conclusion on this before understanding the arguments. So you don’t know how to make arguments for and against it because you don’t understand them. You just know the conclusion.

    As for vouchers, they don’t work bro. Again you made up your mind that they do because it sounds good to you but the evidence isn’t there. Even the positive studies use words like “modest” and “maybe”. I think it was in Louisiana where proponents of the voucher system claimed victory because they performed as well as public schools. If only every black kid had a chance to go to a school as good as a public school.
    How do you explain someone like Oprah Winfrey, Robert Smith or Robert L. Johnson in a rigged system?

    You are seriously asking that after the explanation that was provided? Sometimes you just gotta step away from the keyboard.
    Great strategy - dismiss the question you don't like as 'stupid'.

    If the system is so rigged, how does this happen?

    Throbber you are smarter than that. Read the post.... The example about football refs. It's not rigged against 100% of the people. Just like some wealthy people go bankrupt.

    I do find it odd that the crowd that says we need to end food stamps to get people back to work. Is arguing against the fact the system is rigged to keep poor people poor.
    Still didn't answer the question. how did those people listed beat 'the system'? P-Diddy, Daymon John, Richard Parsons?

    did they get the willie wonka magic 'avoid the rigged system' ticket? If they did, that should be advertised so all the po' people at least have some hope beyond food stamps from the man.

    Or maybe they just worked like motherfuckers and took advantage of the opportunities presented to them or created their own? The system is rigged is bullshit. Some people get a head start because of looks or last name or whatever - but there's literally nothing holding anybody back in this country from achieving greatness.

    So, yeah, I am smarter than that.

    I didn't say there was no way out. Literally my next statement is our country probably has the best system to help people get out as well, with Pell Grants and shit.

    BTW. It didn't go unnoticed that you only mentioned wealthy black people.
    And there it is, folks! The dime store accusation of racism. In fact, Hondo scraped it off the floor of the dime store, because he's that desperate.

    Seems to be working out for them, doesn't it?


    The next congress could easily increase taxes on the richest people in the Country like Clinton did, and get away with it. But this time, leading the charge against those increases would be the lefties at Microsoft, Google and Facebook, instead of the righties at Shell, Chevron and Texaco.

    Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    SFGbob said:

    Are you dodging?

    You really want me to answer whether the total wealth in the US is the same today as it is in 1962? No, Bob, it is not the same.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Then why would you post a graph with the heading: Ultra-wealthy take more of the pie that makes no mention that the size of the pie is much greater today than it was in 1962?

    How am I harmed by Zuckerberg's wealth? If the top 1% are taking a large share of the "pie" but the pie is far larger how am I hurt by that? Also, how much of the income taxes are paid by this 1%?

    Rich people aren't getting richer by stealing money from poor people.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    SFGbob said:

    Then why would you post a graph with the heading: Ultra-wealthy take more of the pie that makes no mention that the size of the pie is much greater today than it was in 1962?

    How am I harmed by Zuckerberg's wealth? If the top 1% are taking a large share of the "pie" but the pie is far larger how am I hurt by that? Also, how much of the income taxes are paid by this 1%?

    Rich people aren't getting richer by stealing money from poor people.

    Your lack of understanding of the effects of economic inequality isn't my problem. There are countless papers published on the subject, feel free to educate yourself.