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Myles Gaskin is covering up Petersen’s warts as a coach

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  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Shoulder still hurt, too.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    With him healthy I think we have one loss right now.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,501

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Passion said:

    With him healthy I think we have one loss right now.

    I agree with this. And no losses with Gaskin and a better than average starting QB.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    Unless Pete learned from his browning mistake it is only subtraction.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Cant wait to see him go for 200 against the kewgs.
  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511

    Best player on the team ... by far.

    You? Will miss him. Ahmed is not Gaskin. At. All.

    Starting to wonder if Ahmed is a bit of a pussy. Doesn't seem to like the contact.

    Gaskin is the shit. Balls of steel that little fucker.

    I think they are just different kinds of runners.

    To me it seems as if Ahmed is being coached to be more like Gaskin, patient and letting the blocks play out before deciding on the lane, and he isn't as good at that part so it makes him look tentative.

    I suspect Ahmed is just more of a one cut back, like Colman was.

    They should just give him more plays that take advantage of his speed, not on his ability to let blocks play out before deciding on the lane.



  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    Baphomet said:

    Best player on the team ... by far.

    You? Will miss him. Ahmed is not Gaskin. At. All.

    Starting to wonder if Ahmed is a bit of a pussy. Doesn't seem to like the contact.

    Gaskin is the shit. Balls of steel that little fucker.

    I think they are just different kinds of runners.

    To me it seems as if Ahmed is being coached to be more like Gaskin, patient and letting the blocks play out before deciding on the lane, and he isn't as good at that part so it makes him look tentative.

    I suspect Ahmed is just more of a one cut back, like Colman was.

    They should just give him more plays that take advantage of his speed, not on his ability to let blocks play out before deciding on the lane.



    Either way, it'll be chintresting.

    Holding constant for style, because many work, Gaskin has a knack for getting shit done when it matters, he is incredibly durable given how hard he's ridden and how small he is, and he's a home-threat. Ahmed seems to have only one of those qualities.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Baphomet said:

    Best player on the team ... by far.

    You? Will miss him. Ahmed is not Gaskin. At. All.

    Starting to wonder if Ahmed is a bit of a pussy. Doesn't seem to like the contact.

    Gaskin is the shit. Balls of steel that little fucker.

    I think they are just different kinds of runners.

    To me it seems as if Ahmed is being coached to be more like Gaskin, patient and letting the blocks play out before deciding on the lane, and he isn't as good at that part so it makes him look tentative.

    I suspect Ahmed is just more of a one cut back, like Colman was.

    They should just give him more plays that take advantage of his speed, not on his ability to let blocks play out before deciding on the lane.



    Either way, it'll be chintresting.

    Holding constant for style, because many work, Gaskin has a knack for getting shit done when it matters, he is incredibly durable given how hard he's ridden and how small he is, and he's a home-threat. Ahmed seems to have only one of those qualities.
    Agree with all except the home-run threat. It's pretty rare that Gaskin breaks a long one. He's good at everything else though.

    Still sadly underused in the passing game.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
    You mean like the total whiff’s on Dillard, Watson and Abraham?

    Agree it was stupid to let local talent like that slip right thru your own back yard.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
    You mean like the total whiff’s on Dillard, Watson and Abraham?

    Agree it was stupid to let local talent like that slip right thru your own back yard.
    Who?

    Your scheme is very good at covering up offensive line deficiencies.

    Where is consensus All-American Cody the Continent playing this year?
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
    You mean like the total whiff’s on Dillard, Watson and Abraham?

    Agree it was stupid to let local talent like that slip right thru your own back yard.
    Who?

    Your scheme is very good at covering up offensive line deficiencies.

    Where is consensus All-American Cody the Continent playing this year?
    Wait, @sarktastic is a cuog?
  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511

    Baphomet said:

    Best player on the team ... by far.

    You? Will miss him. Ahmed is not Gaskin. At. All.

    Starting to wonder if Ahmed is a bit of a pussy. Doesn't seem to like the contact.

    Gaskin is the shit. Balls of steel that little fucker.

    I think they are just different kinds of runners.

    To me it seems as if Ahmed is being coached to be more like Gaskin, patient and letting the blocks play out before deciding on the lane, and he isn't as good at that part so it makes him look tentative.

    I suspect Ahmed is just more of a one cut back, like Colman was.

    They should just give him more plays that take advantage of his speed, not on his ability to let blocks play out before deciding on the lane.



    Either way, it'll be chintresting.

    Holding constant for style, because many work, Gaskin has a knack for getting shit done when it matters, he is incredibly durable given how hard he's ridden and how small he is, and he's a home-threat. Ahmed seems to have only one of those qualities.
    Gaskin has been the 4 year starter, so he gets more chances to get shit done when it matters.

    I think Ahmed will get it done when he is the starter. Not saying he will be as good as Gaskin, but if our QB is better (high chance), and our play calling is better (can it be worse?), it shouldn't matter as much.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661
    Peterman has one wart as a coach and that's controlling the O

    He's like Graham (on O not D) except not totally horrible.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited November 2018

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
    You mean like the total whiff’s on Dillard, Watson and Abraham?

    Agree it was stupid to let local talent like that slip right thru your own back yard.
    Who?

    Your scheme is very good at covering up offensive line deficiencies.

    Where is consensus All-American Cody the Continent playing this year?
    All 3 local kids, all 3 all P-12 conference, all 3 nfl talent according to scouts.

    Don’t be a jack Ass Tommy. These are exceptionally good athletes. Better athletes AND linemen then we have starting at UW right now. Talent evaluation and Coaching matter. So, Yes. I hope Petersen begins taking a drastically different approach to Oline recruiting and gets things figured out by 2020.


    edit to add: in 21 pass attempts our O line surrendered 4 Sacks to Cal. In 51 pass attempts, Minshew was sacked once.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    Minshew is covering up Leach's warts as a coach.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    haie said:

    Minshew is covering up Leach's warts as a coach.

    Meh.

    Leach rinses and repeats better than anyone at QB.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club

    I got flagged before but I’ll say it again: Ahmed is a doog legend. Lots to prove

    If you can't turn that speed and agility into a star your offense is dreck beyond repair.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
    You mean like the total whiff’s on Dillard, Watson and Abraham?

    Agree it was stupid to let local talent like that slip right thru your own back yard.
    Who?

    Your scheme is very good at covering up offensive line deficiencies.

    Where is consensus All-American Cody the Continent playing this year?
    Wait, @sarktastic is a cuog?
    Oh I guess not, he is just cougin.

  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Probably true.

    OTOH Browning is magnifying them.

    Will be really chinteresting to see which departure has the bigger impact.

    This. Gaskin has absolutely carried this team and has probably been worth at least 2 wins. Additionally, we definitely beat Cal if he plays.

    On the other side of the coin, Browning's absolute ineptness at times (bad reads, missed passes, not seeing receivers) has made it so Gaskin has had to carry the team.

    I worry next year that we may have a massive upgrade in qb but a massive downgrade at RB and end up with the same result. Instead of stacking the box and daring UW to throw it, they will stack the backfield an dare UW to run it.
    QB is generally far more important so I’m cautiously optimistic.
    2019 who knows but I feel like the improvement in O-line recruiting will start to pay off by 2020 and skill positions will have more opportunities running and throwing.
    You mean like the total whiff’s on Dillard, Watson and Abraham?

    Agree it was stupid to let local talent like that slip right thru your own back yard.
    Who?

    Your scheme is very good at covering up offensive line deficiencies.

    Where is consensus All-American Cody the Continent playing this year?
    All 3 local kids, all 3 all P-12 conference, all 3 nfl talent according to scouts.

    Don’t be a jack Ass Tommy. These are exceptionally good athletes. Better athletes AND linemen then we have starting at UW right now. Talent evaluation and Coaching matter. So, Yes. I hope Petersen begins taking a drastically different approach to Oline recruiting and gets things figured out by 2020.


    edit to add: in 21 pass attempts our O line surrendered 4 Sacks to Cal. In 51 pass attempts, Minshew was sacked once.
    Which scouts are those? Which year did they make all conference?

    How many seconds on average for Minshew to get rid of the ball? Browning? How many snaps did they each have against nickel compared to 7 or 8 man fronts?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    Houhusky said:

    haie said:

    I got flagged before but I’ll say it again: Ahmed is a doog legend. Lots to prove

    If you can't turn that speed and agility into a star your offense is dreck beyond repair.
    That’s retarded, there are always going to be guys like lupus rankin or dewayne Washington that look fucking phenomenal in the underwear olympics but don’t have the other things that make them into an actually good RB let alone football players.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if ahmed is more of a rotational RB and slot/gadget Chico player next year rather than bellcow RB1 for the team.

    Chris Polk was a giant pussy too before he got injured and became a badass so don’t twist, it’s not impossible to get better. EWIWBI.
    Comparing Rankin to Ahmed. El oh el
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    Deserves own poast: Ahmed is a fucking star you faggots. You don't have to be an every down back to be a fucking shredder.