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Any of you libs care to take a stab at tell us why Trump's Ad is racist?

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
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If you listen to CNN or MSNBC you'd think that Trump had just re-made Birth of a Nation. Passion came here yesterday and claimed the Ad was racist but then ran away when asked to explain why.


Liberals believe that if they just use their magic words the immediately "win" the argument. Neo-Con, Koch brothers, Haliburton, homophobe and racist.

So tell us, why is this Ad racist?

https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/31/trump_web_ad_targets_criminal_illegal_immigrants_who_else_would_democrats_let_in.html
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    Takes a hell of lot of inferences to come to those conclusions. I think what those people have in common is that they want to come here illegally if necessary and yes some of those illegals, that the Rats support, do awful things when they get here. If we keep illegals out of the country we won't have crimes like this committed by illegals.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    We just witnessed this very same scenario a few months ago. While some did apply for asylum at an official port of entry many entered the country illegally. They intentionally brought kids with them, many times not even their own kids because they knew if they were picked up for entering the country illegally they could only be detained for a few weeks because of the kids.

    Many of these people if denied asylum will not just turn around and go home, they will enter the country illegally.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
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  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233
    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Jesus.

    Fucking Hondo #2

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  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Sfgboobbstrawmanassfuckinginthisthread
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited November 2018
    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Given the context of this administration and Trump' proven willingness to fan racial tensions and prey on white fears of browns and blacks, not really.

    I don't think Trump's a racist so much as a pragmatist. I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Jesus.

    Fucking Hondo #2

    Jesus, another Kunt response where this jackass doesn't lay a glove on anything I said.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    HillsboroDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Given the context of this administration and Trump' proven willingness to fan racial tensions and prey on white fears of browns and blacks, not really.

    I don't think Trump's a racist so much as a pragmatist. I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.
    You think people who oppose illegal immigration are racists? There's a lot of supposition in your claim but you have a right to that opinion but if you watch CNN or MSNBC they aren't reporting on this as if the Ad is racist in their opinion, they are stating flat-out that it's a racist Ad. The Ad never mentions race.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    HillsboroDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Given the context of this administration and Trump' proven willingness to fan racial tensions and prey on white fears of browns and blacks, not really.

    I don't think Trump's a racist so much as a pragmatist. I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.
    I'd be shocked if he was the ad before it ran or had any input.
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Given the context of this administration and Trump' proven willingness to fan racial tensions and prey on white fears of browns and blacks, not really.

    I don't think Trump's a racist so much as a pragmatist. I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.
    You think people who oppose illegal immigration are racists? There's a lot of supposition in your claim but you have a right to that opinion but if you watch CNN or MSNBC they aren't reporting on this as if the Ad is racist in their opinion, they are stating flat-out that it's a racist Ad. The Ad never mentions race.
    I didn't say that.

    This is roughly how I see it, with apologies to @TheChart and @Dardanus.



    The overlapped section is the most passionate, vocal and easily manipulated. Trump knows when appealing to them they'll do what needs to be done to fire up the non racist portion of the diagram.

    Trump might be dumb but he ain't stupid.
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    Ummmm, because it uses footage of an illegal immigrant from Mexico who committed atrocities to suggest that those who are trying to come here from Honduras are coming here to do the same thing, when the main thing they have in common is the color of their skin? He's not Honduran, he didn't come in a Caravan, but his actions predict theirs because skin color.

    It's the clear implication of the ad.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph but that doesn't mean they are never right in their claims. They're right about this one, it's pretty obvious.

    The migrant caravan is a huge boon for the GOP heading into the election and Trump is smart to take advantage of that. It could have been done a lot more subtly though.

    Is there any possibility that your interpretation of the Ad is wrong and therefore possibly not racist?
    Given the context of this administration and Trump' proven willingness to fan racial tensions and prey on white fears of browns and blacks, not really.

    I don't think Trump's a racist so much as a pragmatist. I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.
    I'd be shocked if he was the ad before it ran or had any input.
    No input probably but I bet he BRB, YO'd to it at least once before he poasted it.

    Trump strikes me as a micromanager. I don't think he's giving his team a ton of carte blanche.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.

    Why wouldn't just simply opposing illegal immigration appeal to these racists? Why would you need a "racist" Ad?
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    SFGbob said:

    I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.

    Why wouldn't just simply opposing illegal immigration appeal to these racists? Why would you need a "racist" Ad?

    "Trump knows when appealing to them they'll do what needs to be done to fire up the non racist portion of the diagram."

    He put the video out for the racists to share with their anti illegal immigration, non/less racist frens.

    There's definitely a brilliance to Trump.
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited November 2018
    Trump isn't trying to win anybody's votes here, he's just trying to ensure the votes that are already in his corner show up at the poles. It's motivation, not debate.

    This is why I said the caravan is a huge boon for the GOP. The timing is perfect. I seriously "lol" at all the idiots on my feed who think Soros is financing this thing. It's way more beneficial timing for the right than the left.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    HillsboroDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.

    Why wouldn't just simply opposing illegal immigration appeal to these racists? Why would you need a "racist" Ad?

    "Trump knows when appealing to them they'll do what needs to be done to fire up the non racist portion of the diagram."

    He put the video out for the racists to share with their anti illegal immigration, non/less racist frens.

    There's definitely a brilliance to Trump.
    But the Ad is getting massive play on CNN, are they racists?
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Trump isn't trying to win anybody's votes here, he's just trying to ensure the votes that are already in his corner show up at the poles. It's motivation, not debate.

    This is why I said the caravan is a huge boon for the GOP. The timing is perfect. I seriously "lol" at all the idiots on my feed who think Soros is financing this thing. It's way more beneficial timing for the right than the left.

    But why would he need that Ad? Wouldn't opposing illegal immigration be enough of a motivation for these "racists?" Any idea what percentage of the people who oppose illegal immigration are racists?

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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    SFGbob said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    I do think he knows he's appealing to racists and does it chintentionally.

    Why wouldn't just simply opposing illegal immigration appeal to these racists? Why would you need a "racist" Ad?

    "Trump knows when appealing to them they'll do what needs to be done to fire up the non racist portion of the diagram."

    He put the video out for the racists to share with their anti illegal immigration, non/less racist frens.

    There's definitely a brilliance to Trump.
    But the Ad is getting massive play on CNN, are they racists?
    CNN's trying to use it to fire up their base as well.

    Also clicks.

    hth
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