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NY Times - anti-Semitism in NY doesn't "conform to and easy narrative."

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
edited November 2018 in Tug Tavern
And by "easy narrative" they mean most of the anti-Semitism is being carried out by people on their team.

https://nytimes.com/2018/10/31/nyregion/jewish-bias-safety-nyc.html

The dirty little secret is that most acts of anti-Semitism in this country aren't carried out by right-wingers.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,717 Founders Club
    There are 600,000 Jewish voters in Florida, a reliable dem constituency until they ran an anti Semite.

    Despite the accusations of anti-Semitism, Gillum has ignored the growing calls to disavow the group even as the largest Jewish weekly publication in the country, the Jewish Press, urged Florida’s Jewish residents to vote for DeSantis, potentially swaying the election to the Republican.

    Seems like an easy narrative to me
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    And by "easy narrative" they mean most of the anti-Semitism is being carried out by people on their team.

    https://nytimes.com/2018/10/31/nyregion/jewish-bias-safety-nyc.html

    The dirty little secret is that most acts of anti-Semitism in this country aren't carried out by right-wingers.

    Link?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    To many Jews in this country have adopted the religion of liberalism and discarded Judaism.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Liberalism is now a religion.

    Ok!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Liberalism is now a religion.

    Ok!

    That's news to you?
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    To many Jews in this country have adopted the religion of liberalism and discarded Judaism.

    This is a virulently anti-semitic post but you probably don’t realize it
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Criticizing Zionism, especially the current far right-wing zionists running Israel, is not anti-semitism
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    To many Jews in this country have adopted the religion of liberalism and discarded Judaism.

    This is a virulently anti-semitic post but you probably don’t realize it
    It's actual not but you're not very bright. If I said many American Catholics have abandoned Catholicism and adopted liberalism as their new religion would I be anti-Catholic or anti-Christian?

    https://nationalreview.com/2010/03/leftism-religion-dennis-prager/
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Criticizing Zionism, especially the current far right-wing zionists running Israel, is not anti-semitism

    And that's not what NYC is tallying when they are counting hate crimes committed against Jews. But there are plenty of anti-Semites who hide behind the claim that they are just being critical of Zionism.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    To many Jews in this country have adopted the religion of liberalism and discarded Judaism.

    This is a virulently anti-semitic post but you probably don’t realize it
    It's actual not but you're not very bright. If I said many American Catholics have abandoned Catholicism and adopted liberalism as their new religion would I be anti-Catholic or anti-Christian?

    https://nationalreview.com/2010/03/leftism-religion-dennis-prager/
    You said that diaspora Jews that are politically liberal, which is the vast majority in this country, are not fully jewish. Pure anti-semitic bile.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited November 2018
    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    You can be "fully Jewish" and not be religious at all. You don't stop being Jewish just because you're an atheist.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?

    What else is anyone supposed to read from “Jews have adopted liberalism and discared Judaism”. Who are you to define authentic Judaism?

    Everyone who trumpets that Soros is a puppetmaster of the global left intent on destroying the nation-state is an anti-semite Prager and Shapiro included.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,717 Founders Club
    Pretty sure supporting the group that wants to run the Jews into the sea is not pro Jewish

    You know who else talked about Zionists?

    Godwin
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?

    What else is anyone supposed to read from “Jews have adopted liberalism and discared Judaism”. Who are you to define authentic Judaism?

    Everyone who trumpets that Soros is a puppetmaster of the global left intent on destroying the nation-state is an anti-semite Prager and Shapiro included.
    Does "Secular Jew" conform better to your standards?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Judaism is the religion you can be a Jew and not practice Judaism. Have Prager and Shapiro said that? I'm the same person who claims that Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durbin aren't real Catholics. Now does that make me a anti-Catholic?
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    SFGbob said:

    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?

    What else is anyone supposed to read from “Jews have adopted liberalism and discared Judaism”. Who are you to define authentic Judaism?

    Everyone who trumpets that Soros is a puppetmaster of the global left intent on destroying the nation-state is an anti-semite Prager and Shapiro included.
    Does "Secular Jew" conform better to your standards?
    I don’t set standards for being appropriately jewish unlike others in this thread
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    Judaism is the religion you can be a Jew and not practice Judaism. Have Prager and Shapiro said that? I'm the same person who claims that Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durbin aren't real Catholics. Now does that make me a anti-Catholic?

    Buddy, you don’t get to decide who is and isn’t a “real” catholic.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    SFGbob said:

    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?

    What else is anyone supposed to read from “Jews have adopted liberalism and discared Judaism”. Who are you to define authentic Judaism?

    Everyone who trumpets that Soros is a puppetmaster of the global left intent on destroying the nation-state is an anti-semite Prager and Shapiro included.
    Does "Secular Jew" conform better to your standards?
    I don’t set standards for being appropriately jewish unlike others in this thread

    Criticizing Zionism, especially the current far right-wing zionists running Israel, is not anti-semitism

    Those two posts aren’t in conflict with each other, hth
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Judaism is the religion you can be a Jew and not practice Judaism. Have Prager and Shapiro said that? I'm the same person who claims that Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durbin aren't real Catholics. Now does that make me a anti-Catholic?

    Buddy, you don’t get to decide who is and isn’t a “real” catholic.
    But I guess you do get to decide who is and who isn't really Jewish. If Prager and Shapiro are anti-Semites as you claim then either they aren't really Jewish or they are self-hating Jews. And yes, if you reject most of teaching of the Catholic church, you're not really Catholic.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Judaism is the religion you can be a Jew and not practice Judaism. Have Prager and Shapiro said that? I'm the same person who claims that Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durbin aren't real Catholics. Now does that make me a anti-Catholic?

    Buddy, you don’t get to decide who is and isn’t a “real” catholic.
    But I guess you do get to decide who is and who isn't really Jewish. If Prager and Shapiro are anti-Semites as you claim then either they aren't really Jewish or they are self-hating Jews. And yes, if you reject most of teaching of the Catholic church, you're not really Catholic.
    I know it’s hard for you to wrap your pea-brain around it but jews can be anti-semitic. I’m not the one making judgements on who is and isn’t jewish. That’s for the anti-semites like you.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Judaism is the religion you can be a Jew and not practice Judaism. Have Prager and Shapiro said that? I'm the same person who claims that Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durbin aren't real Catholics. Now does that make me a anti-Catholic?

    Buddy, you don’t get to decide who is and isn’t a “real” catholic.
    But I guess you do get to decide who is and who isn't really Jewish. If Prager and Shapiro are anti-Semites as you claim then either they aren't really Jewish or they are self-hating Jews. And yes, if you reject most of teaching of the Catholic church, you're not really Catholic.
    I know it’s hard for you to wrap your pea-brain around it but jews can be anti-semitic. I’m not the one making judgements on who is and isn’t jewish. That’s for the anti-semites like you.
    Hey dumbfuck, I just acknowledge that someone can be a self-hating Jew and thus an anti-Semite. Try reading dipshit.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    SFGbob said:

    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?

    What else is anyone supposed to read from “Jews have adopted liberalism and discared Judaism”. Who are you to define authentic Judaism?

    Everyone who trumpets that Soros is a puppetmaster of the global left intent on destroying the nation-state is an anti-semite Prager and Shapiro included.
    Does "Secular Jew" conform better to your standards?
    I don’t set standards for being appropriately jewish unlike others in this thread

    SFGbob said:

    Hey dude, unlike you there is no dick in my mouth. What I said is perfectly clear. I didn't say anything about anyone not being "fully Jewish." Are Orthodox Jews like Prager Ben Shapiro who make the exact same statement I made anti-Semites?

    What else is anyone supposed to read from “Jews have adopted liberalism and discared Judaism”. Who are you to define authentic Judaism?

    Everyone who trumpets that Soros is a puppetmaster of the global left intent on destroying the nation-state is an anti-semite Prager and Shapiro included.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Just when I think the Tug right has completely fried it's last brain cell @HardlyClothed throws on his cape and reminds me the right doesn't have a monopoly on stupid.

    TYFYS

    What are you trying to point out in those posts you quoted?

    There is no set standard for being authentically jewish in this country as much as Bob would like to tell you there is. But there are toxic strains of anti-semitism on the right which are most apparent in their Soros/globalism/migrant invaders conspiracies.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Just when I think the Tug right has completely fried it's last brain cell @HardlyClothed throws on his cape and reminds me the right doesn't have a monopoly on stupid.

    TYFYS

    What are you trying to point out in those posts you quoted?

    There is no set standard for being authentically jewish in this country as much as Bob would like to tell you there is. But there are toxic strains of anti-semitism on the right which are most apparent in their Soros/globalism/migrant invaders conspiracies.
    Claiming a Jew can't believe another Jew is being used by the global left without being anti-semitic is FS. It's just as dumb as the idiots who claim Soros is a Nazi because he cooperated with some SS while his nation was occupied by the Swastikas.

    Just because many people who say such things about Soros are doing so because of Anti Semite tendencies doesn't mean everyone is.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Just when I think the Tug right has completely fried it's last brain cell @HardlyClothed throws on his cape and reminds me the right doesn't have a monopoly on stupid.

    TYFYS

    What are you trying to point out in those posts you quoted?

    There is no set standard for being authentically jewish in this country as much as Bob would like to tell you there is. But there are toxic strains of anti-semitism on the right which are most apparent in their Soros/globalism/migrant invaders conspiracies.
    Claiming a Jew can't believe another Jew is being used by the global left without being anti-semitic is FS. It's just as dumb as the idiots who claim Soros is a Nazi because he cooperated with some SS while his nation was occupied by the Swastikas.

    Just because many people who say such things about Soros are doing so because of Anti Semite tendencies doesn't mean everyone is.
    Almost all of the attacks leveled against Soros are rooted in classic anti-semitic conspiracy. That he’s part of a shadowy global cabal of wealthy inviduals that are the secret puppetmasters driving the destruction of the national identity. If you engage in that line of the attack then you are promoting outright anti-semitism.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Most college campuses in the US are virulently anti-Semitic due to their populist support for the underdog Palestinian people against the "Zionists" in Israel.

    The main message: Palestine Good. Israel Bad. And the Holocaust? That's old.