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Tl;dr: correlation does not equal causationdnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way. -
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
I stand with the @dnc (huh?). Growing up, I've seen men sometimes gently remind kids to take off their hats or stand during National Anthem. I've seen hats popped off heads too. Every kid was white. Can't say for certain every adult was though. I knew one Hispanic family in particular who took that shit very seriously.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way. -
I've said it before but I think only Colin Kaepernick is douchey enough to turn this into a thing.
If pretty much anyone else did it I dont think anyone would care. Theres just something about him though.
Then there's also the fact that it's a bullshit insincere attempt to stay relevant so the media doesnt forget about him.
IF you want to kneel down go ahead. Regardless, you're a fag Colin. -
He was pretty clearly a shit QB after the league caught up to him after his first year, and his career as a starting QB was destined to be over anyway. But the protest ensured he was unsignable and turned him into a martyr where not people make these ridiculous arguments for what a good QB he is.Pitchfork51 said:I've said it before but I think only Colin Kaepernick is douchey enough to turn this into a thing.
If pretty much anyone else did it I dont think anyone would care. Theres just something about him though.
He's good enough to be a backup QB in this league, but nobody wants a backup QB that's a distraction, just axe Tim Tebow.
He signed his own retirement papers but people want to make him into sort of victim.
If I thought he actually meant to sacrifice his career for the cause I'd feel differently but I don't think he had any clue what a big deal this would become. -
“His bosses dime” cracked me up. Oh those poor billionaire NFL owners and their precious time being inconvenienced by a handful of kneeling players.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
HardlyClothed said:
“His bosses dime” cracked me up. Oh those poor billionaire NFL owners and their precious time being inconvenienced by a handful of kneeling players.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so.
Oh look noted Race baiting Commie weighs in.
