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It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag. -
Oh look. Shitliverdawg is another libtard that can’t respond to the correct poaster. Bravo.CirrhosisDawg said: -
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
I shared my concern to flea about your instability and incoherence. We notice and we CARE.salemcoog said:
Oh look. Shitliverdawg is another libtard that can’t respond to the correct poaster. Bravo.CirrhosisDawg said:
Time to:
Step back from the keyboard?
Take a walk along the willamette river?
Heck, curse out a Mexican (Job stealer!!11) if it makes you feel better.
Ts&Ps cuog. -
Nobody likes you.CirrhosisDawg said:
I shared my concern to flea about your instability and incoherence. We notice and we CARE.salemcoog said:
Oh look. Shitliverdawg is another libtard that can’t respond to the correct poaster. Bravo.CirrhosisDawg said:
Time to:
Step back from the keyboard?
Take a walk along the willamette river?
Heck, curse out a Mexican (Job stealer!!11) if it makes you feel better.
Ts&Ps cuog. -
Salem Coog is shredding a lot of cuckflakes in this thread. Grabbing the popcorn.
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How did you get I hate America from that post?salemcoog said:
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
My dad is highly educated on the history of the country. It's a very biased right-wing John Birch Society version of history though. Considering he's in his 70's I think it's unlikely he's going to move off of what he already believes has happened.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
There's definitely thought put into his stance but I agree there's more emotion than thought. -
Yeah no clue on thatallpurpleallgold said:
How did you get I hate America from that post?salemcoog said:
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
Well, then that makes 19% of vets and me that think you should shut your fucking mouth.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so.
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My brother did infantry in the Marines, spent 7 months in Afghanistan in not much more than a small tent. He has told me multiple times he supports the protests. He also didn't join the military to protect a piece of cloth or the sanctity of a song, so go figure.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
Deep personal convictions tend to be emotional.dnc said:
My dad is highly educated on the history of the country. It's a very biased right-wing John Birch Society version of history though. Considering he's in his 70's I think it's unlikely he's going to move off of what he already believes has happened.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
There's definitely thought put into his stance but I agree there's more emotion than thought.
ATBS, the sturm und drang around this is way too much. This is not the hill for anyone to die on. -
Invading Iraq based on lies and causing hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths and then torturing the prisoners we took was honorable and humane. Spread that liberty!salemcoog said:
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
Because criticizing America means you hate itallpurpleallgold said:
How did you get I hate America from that post?salemcoog said:
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
What did He join for? And why can’t any libtard reply to a correct poast?UWhuskytskeet said:
My brother did infantry in the Marines, spent 7 months in Afghanistan in not much more than a small tent. He has told me multiple times he supports the protests. He also didn't join the military to protect a piece of cloth or the sanctity of a song, so go figure.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
UWhuskytskeet said:
My brother did infantry in the Marines, spent 7 months in Afghanistan in not much more than a small tent. He has told me multiple times he supports the protests. He also didn't join the military to protect a piece of cloth or the sanctity of a song, so go figure.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so.
Noted BBC craver trys to talk tuff. Pretty common for frustrated dudes who have yet to come out of the closet. I’ve known a couple. One was to the point of suicide but then He was brave enough to follow through and lives a happy life.dflea said:
If you need someone to talk to about this, DM me and I can hook you up with him. Or don’t and run your drift boat into the boulder again and pretend it was an accident. -
TYDFHSdnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
Does the flag represent freedom or blind patriotism? -
Or?BennyBeaver said:
TYDFHSdnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
Does the flag represent freedom or blind patriotism? -
I don't know exactly why he joined. Intelligent guy but shitty student so he didn't have plans for school straight out of high school. He was never overly patriotic before or after his service though.salemcoog said:
What did He join for? And why can’t any libtard reply to a correct poast?UWhuskytskeet said:
My brother did infantry in the Marines, spent 7 months in Afghanistan in not much more than a small tent. He has told me multiple times he supports the protests. He also didn't join the military to protect a piece of cloth or the sanctity of a song, so go figure.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
TYBFHSUWhuskytskeet said:
My brother did infantry in the Marines, spent 7 months in Afghanistan in not much more than a small tent. He has told me multiple times he supports the protests. He also didn't join the military to protect a piece of cloth or the sanctity of a song, so go figure.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
He doesn't like the glory so I'll take it instead. You are welcome.BennyBeaver said:
TYBFHSUWhuskytskeet said:
My brother did infantry in the Marines, spent 7 months in Afghanistan in not much more than a small tent. He has told me multiple times he supports the protests. He also didn't join the military to protect a piece of cloth or the sanctity of a song, so go figure.salemcoog said:
Fuck you are a dense fucking guppy. Ask around to those that have served, what they think of the Sunday kneelers. You’ll find about 81% of them don’t stand with the kneelers. I didn’t serve, never claimed to have. But of those that I know that did or are currently serving, have no patience for those that disrespect the flag and the song.dflea said:
Thanks for speaking for all that served even though you didn't.salemcoog said:
I’ll take things spoiled wanna be anarchists who have thoroughly disappointed their parents say for $400 Alex.UWhuskytskeet said:
It's a fucking song you pussy.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
You sound tuff skeets. No not really. No one has ever made that false distinction.
The “song” is a salute to those that are serving our country currently and for those that served. But more for those that paid the ultimate price for their country.
But liberal POS, like say... You, side with the lazy person using his bosses dime in order to stand for,uh.... something I guess.
The reality is that if these guys truly cared about the cause that they protest for. They would have already been known for it in their community. As they would be using their fame to publically meet with Community leaders to raise awareness for their cause and work together to find solutions to their problem.
But why do that when you just do nothing and shit on the folks that gave them the Freedom to do so. -
But how is it connected to Lisa Barsoomian?DuckHHunterisafag said:
Watched the whole thing. He's a RAT, he's lying. Collin Takeacrap didn't start this bullshit to accomplish any of the goals this lying POS rambled on about.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
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People fought and died for the right to protest at NFL games. The next question is whether you are gaining anything by doing so.
When is the last time even ESPN addressed police violence against minorities instead of the scorecard on "anthem protests" and Trump?
Lebron seems to do a good job off the court putting his money and his name on causes. When he was told to shut up and dribble he only became more powerful
Protesting for the sake of protesting is a very white thing that I did myself. Protesting to get an actual result is a Black thing that has been accomplished before. Learn from it -
So your homo buddy was on the verge of suicide until you sucked his cock, and then he lived a happy life?salemcoog said:
Noted BBC craver trys to talk tuff. Pretty common for frustrated dudes who have yet to come out of the closet. I’ve known a couple. One was to the point of suicide but then He was brave enough to follow through and lives a happy life.
If you need someone to talk to about this, DM me and I can hook you up with him. Or don’t and run your drift boat into the boulder again and pretend it was an accident.
Cool story, bro.
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Your life is happy? Doesn't seem that way...dflea said:
So your homo buddy was on the verge of suicide until you sucked his cock, and then he lived a happy life?salemcoog said:
Noted BBC craver trys to talk tuff. Pretty common for frustrated dudes who have yet to come out of the closet. I’ve known a couple. One was to the point of suicide but then He was brave enough to follow through and lives a happy life.
If you need someone to talk to about this, DM me and I can hook you up with him. Or don’t and run your drift boat into the boulder again and pretend it was an accident.
Cool story, bro. -
Ironicoregonblitzkrieg said:
Your life is happy? Doesn't seem that way...dflea said:
So your homo buddy was on the verge of suicide until you sucked his cock, and then he lived a happy life?salemcoog said:
Noted BBC craver trys to talk tuff. Pretty common for frustrated dudes who have yet to come out of the closet. I’ve known a couple. One was to the point of suicide but then He was brave enough to follow through and lives a happy life.
If you need someone to talk to about this, DM me and I can hook you up with him. Or don’t and run your drift boat into the boulder again and pretend it was an accident.
Cool story, bro. -
Word.ThomasFremont said:
Ironicoregonblitzkrieg said:
Your life is happy? Doesn't seem that way...dflea said:
So your homo buddy was on the verge of suicide until you sucked his cock, and then he lived a happy life?salemcoog said:
Noted BBC craver trys to talk tuff. Pretty common for frustrated dudes who have yet to come out of the closet. I’ve known a couple. One was to the point of suicide but then He was brave enough to follow through and lives a happy life.
If you need someone to talk to about this, DM me and I can hook you up with him. Or don’t and run your drift boat into the boulder again and pretend it was an accident.
Cool story, bro.
What a fucking donkey obk is. -
In @dflea's defense, Fishsticks with some cocktail sauce are goddamned delicious.salemcoog said:
Oh look at Fishstick weighing in with his usual Nothinburger.dflea said:
Go ahead. Stay the ignant cunt you are. Nobody expected anything more from your worthless ass anyway.salemcoog said:
Sounds scary. But no thanks. If He was worth a shit, the liberal media would have sucked him dry by now.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
