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the odds of Nebraska and Eric Crouch beating Miami were slightly worse than Oregon doing it, since Oregon at least had the threat of the forward pass.dnc said:
YRYK, I read it wrong.AZDuck said:
I think his hypo was that NU somehow beats the Fighting Butch Davises and Oregon beats CU as happened. Then the pundits would have split the title for that year most likelydnc said:
Miami would have run Oregon off the field.MikeSeaver said:
Mike was a Miami loss to Nebraska away from winning a national title in a golf cart and new letterman’s jacket.dnc said:
Bellotti was a GREAT coach. Axe Mosster.MikeSeaver said:
Loses all his bowl games, not any impressive OOC wins and loses to ASU every year, most would say unexpectedly.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Already quoted me as saying Petermen is "Good to great". DNC gave plenty of reasons for at the very least "good". He hasn't earned "great" at UW yet. All indications are that he's on track to do so though.MikeSeaver said:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. Seems to be difficult to get around here bar a few of you. I do appreciate the self deprecating “insert year will be special.” That does seem to be the underling thought from most of you even if you don’t come right out and say it.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Edit: Meant to quote Mike and fucked it up, not going to bother to fix it.ntxduck said:MikeSeaver said:
On the contrary, I’m well versed in HCH think.LoneStarDawg said:If we lay a turd and then run the table Paul Finebaum will be spewing SEC ejaculate on every sound bite he can infect.
That’s likely worse case scenario, I’d honestly rather have another 2017 than 12-1 and miss the playoffs because the pac-12 is so weak.
So TSIO if we start 0-1, are you knew hear?
That’s the whole point of the thread. When will you be championship ready? If not now when? How long will you let this go on?
Are you WASHINGTON or Okalahoma State?
I’m more of a Pete fan than 99% of huskies. That being said, they’ll never be championship ready until he gets his head bashed in by Bama/uga/Clemson a couple more times and realizes he needs to change his recruiting strategy.
Okgs are good enough to win the pac (because the conference sucks). They’re not good enough to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the country.
I have no doubt that this boared will be full of hot takes if Petermen goes another season with 10 wins that ends on a flat note. The reality though is that the rest of the fanbase and uppercampus won't get rid of him unless the wheels really come off. So what are you really asking? What HH's collective expectations are or should be? What our? responses to different scenarios should be? Gnashing of teeth, excuse making, calling for heads, etc.? There are plenty of threds where it's been discussed. The general consensus seems to be at the very least winning a NY6 bowel to pacify real questions about the programs direction.
The general consensus is also that we are a tier 2 program that can challenge for a NT given a good to great coach and a good to great QB. We currently lack the latter and barring some extremely lucky breaks won't be getting that done this year. Looking at QB depth though 2019 and beyond could be special. We did however luck into a coach that is good to great that considers UW his final destination job which can happen given our advantages and quite honestly, the lowered scrutiny & demand from uppercampus and the local media so long as the program is "clean" and "doing it right".
All that said, fuck off and drink bleach.
Lots of “in the future” comments or “some day we will get there”
One note I’ll take exception to is the idea that Pederson is a great coach. Do great coaches lose their bowl games every year? Lose to ASU, every year?
Sounds like Mike Bellotti, a little bit. Ha ha.
That was once in 15 years. I’m told that’s good enough to coach WASHINGTON.
STOp.
So in fifteen years as HC Bellotti was once a Nebraska not getting slaughtered by Miami away from a possible half natty that OBK wouldn't recognize.
Sounds like a hell of a coach.
I've said it for years: best thing that could have happened to Oregon was NOT being in that Rose Bowl. Belotti knew it too. His smirk notwithstanding, there was nothing to lose with playing the "hold me back" card at the Rose Bowel, because it wasn't like it was going to change anything. That way, Oregon had a nice Fiesta Bowel win and could play the "woulda coulda shoulda" card and avoid having to actually face one of the most deep, talented, balanced and weakness-free cfb teams of the modern era. -
The 2001 Huskies were still a very competitive program coming off a Rose Bowl win. Rick had a couple of stinkers like UCLA who always beats us and Oregon State which poured dirt on his grave. Note that we? beat ASU and USC that year. Should have beat Texas. There is one outlier on the schedule and that was the Canes. They didn't want to punish Nebraska so they took the second half off. The Huskies found out what it was like to see them mad.creepycoug said:
the odds of Nebraska and Eric Crouch beating Miami were slightly worse than Oregon doing it, since Oregon at least had the threat of the forward pass.dnc said:
YRYK, I read it wrong.AZDuck said:
I think his hypo was that NU somehow beats the Fighting Butch Davises and Oregon beats CU as happened. Then the pundits would have split the title for that year most likelydnc said:
Miami would have run Oregon off the field.MikeSeaver said:
Mike was a Miami loss to Nebraska away from winning a national title in a golf cart and new letterman’s jacket.dnc said:
Bellotti was a GREAT coach. Axe Mosster.MikeSeaver said:
Loses all his bowl games, not any impressive OOC wins and loses to ASU every year, most would say unexpectedly.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Already quoted me as saying Petermen is "Good to great". DNC gave plenty of reasons for at the very least "good". He hasn't earned "great" at UW yet. All indications are that he's on track to do so though.MikeSeaver said:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. Seems to be difficult to get around here bar a few of you. I do appreciate the self deprecating “insert year will be special.” That does seem to be the underling thought from most of you even if you don’t come right out and say it.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Edit: Meant to quote Mike and fucked it up, not going to bother to fix it.ntxduck said:MikeSeaver said:
On the contrary, I’m well versed in HCH think.LoneStarDawg said:If we lay a turd and then run the table Paul Finebaum will be spewing SEC ejaculate on every sound bite he can infect.
That’s likely worse case scenario, I’d honestly rather have another 2017 than 12-1 and miss the playoffs because the pac-12 is so weak.
So TSIO if we start 0-1, are you knew hear?
That’s the whole point of the thread. When will you be championship ready? If not now when? How long will you let this go on?
Are you WASHINGTON or Okalahoma State?
I’m more of a Pete fan than 99% of huskies. That being said, they’ll never be championship ready until he gets his head bashed in by Bama/uga/Clemson a couple more times and realizes he needs to change his recruiting strategy.
Okgs are good enough to win the pac (because the conference sucks). They’re not good enough to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the country.
I have no doubt that this boared will be full of hot takes if Petermen goes another season with 10 wins that ends on a flat note. The reality though is that the rest of the fanbase and uppercampus won't get rid of him unless the wheels really come off. So what are you really asking? What HH's collective expectations are or should be? What our? responses to different scenarios should be? Gnashing of teeth, excuse making, calling for heads, etc.? There are plenty of threds where it's been discussed. The general consensus seems to be at the very least winning a NY6 bowel to pacify real questions about the programs direction.
The general consensus is also that we are a tier 2 program that can challenge for a NT given a good to great coach and a good to great QB. We currently lack the latter and barring some extremely lucky breaks won't be getting that done this year. Looking at QB depth though 2019 and beyond could be special. We did however luck into a coach that is good to great that considers UW his final destination job which can happen given our advantages and quite honestly, the lowered scrutiny & demand from uppercampus and the local media so long as the program is "clean" and "doing it right".
All that said, fuck off and drink bleach.
Lots of “in the future” comments or “some day we will get there”
One note I’ll take exception to is the idea that Pederson is a great coach. Do great coaches lose their bowl games every year? Lose to ASU, every year?
Sounds like Mike Bellotti, a little bit. Ha ha.
That was once in 15 years. I’m told that’s good enough to coach WASHINGTON.
STOp.
So in fifteen years as HC Bellotti was once a Nebraska not getting slaughtered by Miami away from a possible half natty that OBK wouldn't recognize.
Sounds like a hell of a coach.
I've said it for years: best thing that could have happened to Oregon was NOT being in that Rose Bowl. Belotti knew it too. His smirk notwithstanding, there was nothing to lose with playing the "hold me back" card at the Rose Bowel, because it wasn't like it was going to change anything. That way, Oregon had a nice Fiesta Bowel win and could play the "woulda coulda shoulda" card and avoid having to actually face one of the most deep, talented, balanced and weakness-free cfb teams of the modern era.
They wouldn't have cared enough to hang 65 on Oregon but it wouldn't have been close either.
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You are right. That Miami game has tended to suggest that Washington sucked that year. While they weren't quite as tuff on D as the 2000 crew, it was still a very solid and capable team. That Holiday Bowl as I recall was one of the best bowels of the season. Very entertaining game and demonstrates the value of having a QB with the "it" factor. Applewhite was never going to see the inside of an NFL locker room, but as a college QB the kid had brass ones and a knack for the big play. Guysm like Tui, Steve Walsh, Smif, Detmer, et. al ... those kinds of players who don't have NFL bodies but who get it done in college like cool cucumbers. I'll take those guysm at that position any day over the physical specimens, who more often than not are not great college QBs.
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Oregon fans would give their left nuts to have Petersen as Ducks coach. And so would the women.
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Disagree. ASU was your worst loss.RaceBannon said:
He's going into his 5th year. No, winning the north isn't enough. And the whole down Oregon thing is meaningless.MikeSeaver said:
This is the Ducks FANS forum. Why would I go to any of he other ones? It’s exactly why I asked why we had this new forum as it’s so narrow in scope. Again I trust the moderators have a plan so I’m fine with that. For now. Personal opinion I like one big forum with all topics. Who wants to go clicking around looking for the perfect sub forum to post their thoughts?RaceBannon said:
And I was about to give a serious answer but then this........MikeSeaver said:As suspected.
Very predictable and the main reason I don’t post here very much.
If you lurked around a bit you'd know there have been hundreds of posts on the failures against Bama and PSU and concern about recruiting being good enough to win those games going forward. Would we care if it happens again? Hell yes
Should he be fired? Let's not be stupid here
Back to the topic, seems like you wouldn’t want him around just winning Northern titles. Wouldn’t have been good enough for the Washington I grew up watching.
It may be now, though. Certainly seems like it. Luckily it coincided with the worst Oregon teams in almost a generation. Because otherwise I think you’d be singing a different tune.
He is what his record is. Losing to Stanford last year was his worse loss. The UW I grew up watching didn't win every game or win the league every year. Go through the shit pile of coaches that we have and we'll appreciate Pete until we don't
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Still would have won the north
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This is correct. Same way UW won theirs.AZDuck said:
I think his hypo was that NU somehow beats the Fighting Butch Davises and Oregon beats CU as happened. Then the pundits would have split the title for that year most likelydnc said:
Miami would have run Oregon off the field.MikeSeaver said:
Mike was a Miami loss to Nebraska away from winning a national title in a golf cart and new letterman’s jacket.dnc said:
Bellotti was a GREAT coach. Axe Mosster.MikeSeaver said:
Loses all his bowl games, not any impressive OOC wins and loses to ASU every year, most would say unexpectedly.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Already quoted me as saying Petermen is "Good to great". DNC gave plenty of reasons for at the very least "good". He hasn't earned "great" at UW yet. All indications are that he's on track to do so though.MikeSeaver said:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. Seems to be difficult to get around here bar a few of you. I do appreciate the self deprecating “insert year will be special.” That does seem to be the underling thought from most of you even if you don’t come right out and say it.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Edit: Meant to quote Mike and fucked it up, not going to bother to fix it.ntxduck said:MikeSeaver said:
On the contrary, I’m well versed in HCH think.LoneStarDawg said:If we lay a turd and then run the table Paul Finebaum will be spewing SEC ejaculate on every sound bite he can infect.
That’s likely worse case scenario, I’d honestly rather have another 2017 than 12-1 and miss the playoffs because the pac-12 is so weak.
So TSIO if we start 0-1, are you knew hear?
That’s the whole point of the thread. When will you be championship ready? If not now when? How long will you let this go on?
Are you WASHINGTON or Okalahoma State?
I’m more of a Pete fan than 99% of huskies. That being said, they’ll never be championship ready until he gets his head bashed in by Bama/uga/Clemson a couple more times and realizes he needs to change his recruiting strategy.
Okgs are good enough to win the pac (because the conference sucks). They’re not good enough to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the country.
I have no doubt that this boared will be full of hot takes if Petermen goes another season with 10 wins that ends on a flat note. The reality though is that the rest of the fanbase and uppercampus won't get rid of him unless the wheels really come off. So what are you really asking? What HH's collective expectations are or should be? What our? responses to different scenarios should be? Gnashing of teeth, excuse making, calling for heads, etc.? There are plenty of threds where it's been discussed. The general consensus seems to be at the very least winning a NY6 bowel to pacify real questions about the programs direction.
The general consensus is also that we are a tier 2 program that can challenge for a NT given a good to great coach and a good to great QB. We currently lack the latter and barring some extremely lucky breaks won't be getting that done this year. Looking at QB depth though 2019 and beyond could be special. We did however luck into a coach that is good to great that considers UW his final destination job which can happen given our advantages and quite honestly, the lowered scrutiny & demand from uppercampus and the local media so long as the program is "clean" and "doing it right".
All that said, fuck off and drink bleach.
Lots of “in the future” comments or “some day we will get there”
One note I’ll take exception to is the idea that Pederson is a great coach. Do great coaches lose their bowl games every year? Lose to ASU, every year?
Sounds like Mike Bellotti, a little bit. Ha ha.
That was once in 15 years. I’m told that’s good enough to coach WASHINGTON.
STOp.
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Um, no. We already had our White Bellotti.TheHB said:Oregon fans would give their left nuts to have Petersen as Ducks coach. And so would the women.
Can’t speak for the women though as that would be sexist. But I’d certainly tell them how stupid and wrong they are. -
UW didn't need some other team to lose so we could backdoor into our natty.MikeSeaver said:
This is correct. Same way UW won theirs.AZDuck said:
I think his hypo was that NU somehow beats the Fighting Butch Davises and Oregon beats CU as happened. Then the pundits would have split the title for that year most likelydnc said:
Miami would have run Oregon off the field.MikeSeaver said:
Mike was a Miami loss to Nebraska away from winning a national title in a golf cart and new letterman’s jacket.dnc said:
Bellotti was a GREAT coach. Axe Mosster.MikeSeaver said:
Loses all his bowl games, not any impressive OOC wins and loses to ASU every year, most would say unexpectedly.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Already quoted me as saying Petermen is "Good to great". DNC gave plenty of reasons for at the very least "good". He hasn't earned "great" at UW yet. All indications are that he's on track to do so though.MikeSeaver said:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. Seems to be difficult to get around here bar a few of you. I do appreciate the self deprecating “insert year will be special.” That does seem to be the underling thought from most of you even if you don’t come right out and say it.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Edit: Meant to quote Mike and fucked it up, not going to bother to fix it.ntxduck said:MikeSeaver said:
On the contrary, I’m well versed in HCH think.LoneStarDawg said:If we lay a turd and then run the table Paul Finebaum will be spewing SEC ejaculate on every sound bite he can infect.
That’s likely worse case scenario, I’d honestly rather have another 2017 than 12-1 and miss the playoffs because the pac-12 is so weak.
So TSIO if we start 0-1, are you knew hear?
That’s the whole point of the thread. When will you be championship ready? If not now when? How long will you let this go on?
Are you WASHINGTON or Okalahoma State?
I’m more of a Pete fan than 99% of huskies. That being said, they’ll never be championship ready until he gets his head bashed in by Bama/uga/Clemson a couple more times and realizes he needs to change his recruiting strategy.
Okgs are good enough to win the pac (because the conference sucks). They’re not good enough to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the country.
I have no doubt that this boared will be full of hot takes if Petermen goes another season with 10 wins that ends on a flat note. The reality though is that the rest of the fanbase and uppercampus won't get rid of him unless the wheels really come off. So what are you really asking? What HH's collective expectations are or should be? What our? responses to different scenarios should be? Gnashing of teeth, excuse making, calling for heads, etc.? There are plenty of threds where it's been discussed. The general consensus seems to be at the very least winning a NY6 bowel to pacify real questions about the programs direction.
The general consensus is also that we are a tier 2 program that can challenge for a NT given a good to great coach and a good to great QB. We currently lack the latter and barring some extremely lucky breaks won't be getting that done this year. Looking at QB depth though 2019 and beyond could be special. We did however luck into a coach that is good to great that considers UW his final destination job which can happen given our advantages and quite honestly, the lowered scrutiny & demand from uppercampus and the local media so long as the program is "clean" and "doing it right".
All that said, fuck off and drink bleach.
Lots of “in the future” comments or “some day we will get there”
One note I’ll take exception to is the idea that Pederson is a great coach. Do great coaches lose their bowl games every year? Lose to ASU, every year?
Sounds like Mike Bellotti, a little bit. Ha ha.
That was once in 15 years. I’m told that’s good enough to coach WASHINGTON.
STOp.
Not the same.
This is like UW needing BYU to looser in 1984, other than the fact Michigan was actually competitive in that one unlike Nebraska. -
What natty?dnc said:
UW didn't need some other team to lose so we could backdoor into our natty.MikeSeaver said:
This is correct. Same way UW won theirs.AZDuck said:
I think his hypo was that NU somehow beats the Fighting Butch Davises and Oregon beats CU as happened. Then the pundits would have split the title for that year most likelydnc said:
Miami would have run Oregon off the field.MikeSeaver said:
Mike was a Miami loss to Nebraska away from winning a national title in a golf cart and new letterman’s jacket.dnc said:
Bellotti was a GREAT coach. Axe Mosster.MikeSeaver said:
Loses all his bowl games, not any impressive OOC wins and loses to ASU every year, most would say unexpectedly.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Already quoted me as saying Petermen is "Good to great". DNC gave plenty of reasons for at the very least "good". He hasn't earned "great" at UW yet. All indications are that he's on track to do so though.MikeSeaver said:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. Seems to be difficult to get around here bar a few of you. I do appreciate the self deprecating “insert year will be special.” That does seem to be the underling thought from most of you even if you don’t come right out and say it.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Edit: Meant to quote Mike and fucked it up, not going to bother to fix it.ntxduck said:MikeSeaver said:
On the contrary, I’m well versed in HCH think.LoneStarDawg said:If we lay a turd and then run the table Paul Finebaum will be spewing SEC ejaculate on every sound bite he can infect.
That’s likely worse case scenario, I’d honestly rather have another 2017 than 12-1 and miss the playoffs because the pac-12 is so weak.
So TSIO if we start 0-1, are you knew hear?
That’s the whole point of the thread. When will you be championship ready? If not now when? How long will you let this go on?
Are you WASHINGTON or Okalahoma State?
I’m more of a Pete fan than 99% of huskies. That being said, they’ll never be championship ready until he gets his head bashed in by Bama/uga/Clemson a couple more times and realizes he needs to change his recruiting strategy.
Okgs are good enough to win the pac (because the conference sucks). They’re not good enough to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the country.
I have no doubt that this boared will be full of hot takes if Petermen goes another season with 10 wins that ends on a flat note. The reality though is that the rest of the fanbase and uppercampus won't get rid of him unless the wheels really come off. So what are you really asking? What HH's collective expectations are or should be? What our? responses to different scenarios should be? Gnashing of teeth, excuse making, calling for heads, etc.? There are plenty of threds where it's been discussed. The general consensus seems to be at the very least winning a NY6 bowel to pacify real questions about the programs direction.
The general consensus is also that we are a tier 2 program that can challenge for a NT given a good to great coach and a good to great QB. We currently lack the latter and barring some extremely lucky breaks won't be getting that done this year. Looking at QB depth though 2019 and beyond could be special. We did however luck into a coach that is good to great that considers UW his final destination job which can happen given our advantages and quite honestly, the lowered scrutiny & demand from uppercampus and the local media so long as the program is "clean" and "doing it right".
All that said, fuck off and drink bleach.
Lots of “in the future” comments or “some day we will get there”
One note I’ll take exception to is the idea that Pederson is a great coach. Do great coaches lose their bowl games every year? Lose to ASU, every year?
Sounds like Mike Bellotti, a little bit. Ha ha.
That was once in 15 years. I’m told that’s good enough to coach WASHINGTON.
STOp.
Not the same.
This is like UW needing BYU to looser in 1984, other than the fact Michigan was actually competitive in that one unlike Nebraska.
