Mightier military vis-a-vis the contemporary competition: Imperial Germany or Nazi Germany?
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Mightier military vis-a-vis the contemporary competition: Imperial Germany or Nazi Germany? 15 votes
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WW1 Imperial GermanyCarlin lays out a very compelling argument in favor of WW1 Germany...
1- Imperial Germany had 40 + years to prepare where as Nazi's only had 6 years.
2- The Generals ran the show for WWI Germany - i.e., no mad man at the helm, and they didn't make stupid decisions based on ideology. Think how much man power and resources were wasted on the Final Solution.
3- Imperial Germany actually had a navy that was worth a shit, although they didn't use it much.
4- Imperial Germany actually knocked out Russia, while fighting France and Britain at the same time and remember that France and Britain in WWI were willing to lose and entire generation of their youth to "win" in places like Verdun and the Somme. This, of course, was not the case in WWI were those two powers basically rolled over and died.
5- WWI was very much in doubt until late in the 4th Quarter and the Germans had a realistic chance to win. Nazi Germany on the other hand had lost the war by half time (i.e., late 1942 - early 1943) and that was before America was really heavy into the fight. -
WW2 Nazi GermanyThe Blitz or 46 defense that Hitler came up with changed modern warfare
WW1 was a brutal slog with modern killing weapons and Civil War era strategy -
WW1 Imperial Germany
Nazi Germany is Oregon- i.e., revolutionary Offense - but they got worn down and lost in the second half badly. WWI Germany was built for 4 quarters of football.RaceBannon said:The Blitz or 46 defense that Hitler came up with changed modern warfare
WW1 was a brutal slog with modern killing weapons and Civil War era strategy -
Conversely, that was a shit tier WWI Russia with a fucking pansy ass czar at the helm (thanks @Rasputin!) rather than a military mind. Also a Russia that was *this* close to Implosion.gif.YellowSnow said:Carlin lays out a very compelling argument in favor of WW1 Germany...
1- Imperial Germany had 40 + years to prepare where as Nazi's only had 6 years.
2- The Generals ran the show for WWI Germany - i.e., no mad man at the helm, and they didn't make stupid decisions based on ideology. Think how much man power and resources were wasted on the Final Solution.
3- Imperial Germany actually had a navy that was worth a shit, although they didn't use it much.
4- Imperial Germany actually knocked out Russia, while fighting France and Britain at the same time and remember that France and Britain in WWI were willing to lose and entire generation of their youth to "win" in places like Verdun and the Somme. This, of course, was not the case in WWI were those two powers basically rolled over and died.
5- WWI was very much in doubt until late in the 4th Quarter and the Germans had a realistic chance to win. Nazi Germany on the other hand had lost the war by half time (i.e., late 1942 - early 1943) and that was before America was really heavy into the fight.
Hitler's eastern front SOS was much higher.
Still a chinteresting debate. -
WW2 Nazi Germany
They still quit and sold out their country!YellowSnow said:
Nazi Germany is Oregon- i.e., revolutionary Offense - but they got worn down and lost in the second half badly. WWI Germany was built for 4 quarters of football.RaceBannon said:The Blitz or 46 defense that Hitler came up with changed modern warfare
WW1 was a brutal slog with modern killing weapons and Civil War era strategy -
WW2 Nazi GermanyHitler had to build his army while under crippling NCAA sanctions. Wasn't even supposed to have an army
As Pumpy and Lambo can tell you, sanctions can kill a program for years -
WW2 Nazi Germany
You mean the Nazi's had to play a RANKED Russia?dnc said:
Conversely, that was a shit tier WWI Russia with a fucking pansy ass czar at the helm (thanks @Rasputin!) rather than a military mind. Also a Russia that was *this* close to Implosion.gif.YellowSnow said:Carlin lays out a very compelling argument in favor of WW1 Germany...
1- Imperial Germany had 40 + years to prepare where as Nazi's only had 6 years.
2- The Generals ran the show for WWI Germany - i.e., no mad man at the helm, and they didn't make stupid decisions based on ideology. Think how much man power and resources were wasted on the Final Solution.
3- Imperial Germany actually had a navy that was worth a shit, although they didn't use it much.
4- Imperial Germany actually knocked out Russia, while fighting France and Britain at the same time and remember that France and Britain in WWI were willing to lose and entire generation of their youth to "win" in places like Verdun and the Somme. This, of course, was not the case in WWI were those two powers basically rolled over and died.
5- WWI was very much in doubt until late in the 4th Quarter and the Germans had a realistic chance to win. Nazi Germany on the other hand had lost the war by half time (i.e., late 1942 - early 1943) and that was before America was really heavy into the fight.
Hitler's eastern front SOS was much higher.
Still a chinteresting debate. -
WW1 Imperial Germany
Spikes on helmets. WW1 Krauts win rather easily.
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WW1 Imperial Germany
Fake news by right wing nut jobs. They were whipped and saved their country from further pain and suffering by throwing in the towel.RaceBannon said:
They still quit and sold out their country!YellowSnow said:
Nazi Germany is Oregon- i.e., revolutionary Offense - but they got worn down and lost in the second half badly. WWI Germany was built for 4 quarters of football.RaceBannon said:The Blitz or 46 defense that Hitler came up with changed modern warfare
WW1 was a brutal slog with modern killing weapons and Civil War era strategy -
WW2 Germany and it's not close.
Who cares if the generals had more say in WW1? Say in what, sending thousands to run to their deaths against trench fortified machine guns?
Nazi German overextended by a fucking lot. They couldnt be satisfied with annexing France and Poland, they just had to spread themselves too thin and attack Russia. If they had fortified, given themselves time to get their new recruits up to speed, and not helped a fucking stupid Italy blunder along in Greece, America would have had a real problem and might not have been able to beat them.
It was probably a matter of time before Russia attacked the eastern flank, but a Russian offensive would have been a joke. Wasting away half of your troops in an offensive in Russia, during the winter, was an all-time dumb fuckup.
Same shit happened to Napolean. Power hungry despots, for some reason, arent happy with conquering the nice parts of Europe. They are compelled to invade Russia for god knows why, lose a shitload of experienced troops, and allow the English to get their shit together.
