Why is the American & International left in bed with Islam?
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Islam itself is the issue. Islam itself is extremist.2001400ex said:
It's the insinuation that the Muslim religion is the issue. It's extremists that's the issue. Just like extreme Christians that want to take down Muslims are an issue.YellowSnow said:
Who here other than perhaps OBK has proposed prohibiting the free exercise of Islam in the US? How does offering criticisms of contemporary Islamic civilization infringe upon anyone's 1st amendment rights?2001400ex said:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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Geert Wilders is your source???
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You sir. Are fucking ignorant.oregonblitzkrieg said:Islam is NOT a religion. I know it sounds crazy, and I know I don’t get a lot of support for that idea, but I strongly believe that Islam might be dressed up as a religion: it has a holy book, it has a temple, it looks like a religion, but it’s more an ideology and a totalitarian ideology than a religion. You cannot compare it with Christianity and Judaism, and you should compare it with other totalitarian ideologies like communism or fascism. I always use one example to prove it — there are many more that — like in communism or fascism, the penalty is death if you want to leave it. I mean, you cannot leave Islam: if you are an apostate, if you are a renegade, the penalty is death, and even today in our societies, let alone in the Islamic societies, it is enacted upon, you know people ARE killed for that reason, and you can leave Christianity, you can leave Judaism.
And the other point is that Islam wants to rule the world — as you know Islam means to subjugate, wants to rule and dominate and subjugate, not only the person’s life but also a whole society. The rule of God, the rule of allah, the rule of the Quran and the Hadith is the rule of the society. I’m not talking about all Muslims, I’m talking about the ideology, and the idea of ideology cannot integrate and assimilate in a society, it wants to dominate it and it wants to subjugate with violence.
The Quran is full of more violence and anti-semitism than Mein Kampf, for instance. People and academics have proved that, so our biggest mistake is, once again, the false equality that we say that Islam is a religion, so they have the freedom of religion. And I believe it’s not religion; it should not be treated as a religion, and the constitutional freedoms of religion do not apply to an ideology. We would not allow in Holland Nazi schools for instance — it’s another totalitarian ideology. Why do we have Islamic schools? Where young children at five, six, seven, eight years old that we want to integrate, get a job, get Dutch friends, participate fully and equally in the Dutch society are being caught up with the Quran and ideology of hate and thought . . .
Geert Wilders, Dutch Politician
limitstogrowth.org/articles/2017/03/05/geert-wilders-recommends-islam-be-recategorized-as-political-not-religious/ -
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Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
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Cool. Are we still drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global religion based on their extremist wing?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
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Ask Iraq how the Christians treated them.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
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Nah, just drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global 'religion' based on the evidence. The 'religion' itself is extreme and all encompassing. The Koran is the basically the constitution of Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. They follow the same creed as ISIS. They are run by Islamic fascists who dig shit like honor killings when a girl gets raped, marrying underage girls, cutting off the hands of the thief, executions for apostasy. Time to wake up and start taking these faggots at their word when they say they represent Islam, because they do. You would know that if you ever read their 'holy' book.ThomasFremont said:
Cool. Are we still drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global religion based on their extremist wing?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
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You're always complaining about how Race brings up Hillary and Obama whenever Trump is criticized (he doesn't, but anyway). So why don't you try defending Islam and explain why the left is so cozy with an ideology that is not at compatible with Western freedoms and values, without bring up Christianity. Jackass.2001400ex said:
Ask Iraq how the Christians treated them.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
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You sound scaredoregonblitzkrieg said:
Nah, just drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global 'religion' based on the evidence. The 'religion' itself is extreme and all encompassing. The Koran is the basically the constitution of Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. They follow the same creed as ISIS. They are run by Islamic fascists who dig shit like honor killings when a girl gets raped, marrying underage girls, cutting off the hands of the thief, executions for apostasy. Time to wake up and start taking these faggots at their word when they say they represent Islam, because they do. You would know that if you ever read their 'holy' book.ThomasFremont said:
Cool. Are we still drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global religion based on their extremist wing?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
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What dictators like the House of Saud or the mullahs of Iran use to hold onto power/control their people is not the same as how most regular ass people live. I’m no defender of terrorists like you try to claim, but if you think every Muslim is a terrorist, I really just can’t help you. Is every white person a terrorist based on the actions of the KKK or neo-Nazis? Because that’s how absurd your logic is.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Nah, just drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global 'religion' based on the evidence. The 'religion' itself is extreme and all encompassing. The Koran is the basically the constitution of Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. They follow the same creed as ISIS. They are run by Islamic fascists who dig shit like honor killings when a girl gets raped, marrying underage girls, cutting off the hands of the thief, executions for apostasy. Time to wake up and start taking these faggots at their word when they say they represent Islam, because they do. You would know that if you ever read their 'holy' book.ThomasFremont said:
Cool. Are we still drawing sweeping conclusions about a multi national multi cultural global religion based on their extremist wing?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure. He talks the talk but he also walked the walked and lived the reality. Dude hasn't been able to leave his house without armed guards now for a decade or more due to threats on his life from the followers of Islam. I don't see Christians, Jews or Buddhists issuing fatwas against opposition figures. Or killing people for drawing cartoons of Jesus or Buddah.ThomasFremont said:Geert Wilders is your source???
