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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,442 Founders Club

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    Challenge, however, in a circumstance like this with Urbs is he has a bit of past.
  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,005 Founders Club

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    You know, except for when it's explicitly in your contract.

  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited August 2018
    Sources said:

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    You know, except for when it's explicitly in your contract.

    If the Bucks do can him, they’ll be subject to suit. @creepycoug, what think you? That the clause would hold up in court??!
  • SyphilisButterSyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    more than just the title ix stuff and other contract red tape you have the #metoo movement sweeping through college campuses like yersinia pestis. there will be tons of political pressure to set an example and shitcan him
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    You know, except for when it's explicitly in your contract.

    If the Bucks do can him, they’ll be subject to suit. @creepycoug, what think you? That the clause would hold up in court??!
    It's all kind of irrelevant if he's a mandated reporter as a state employee. As a mandated reporter it's pretty black and white if they can show you have any knowledge whatsoever and that ship already sailed.

    Don't know Ohio and their specific laws but in Ca he'd already pretty much be fucked.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,597 Founders Club
    Urbz is backtracking by sayying he failed to recall the allegations and wasn't prepared to discuss publicly sensitive content.

    I think it's a smart move, he's not doubling down on the lie because he and his wife will get roasted and he will for sure get fired.

    Now he has like an 81% chance to remain.
  • SyphilisButterSyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    Doogles said:

    Urbz is backtracking by sayying he failed to recall the allegations and wasn't prepared to discuss publicly sensitive content.

    I think it's a smart move, he's not doubling down on the lie because he and his wife will get roasted and he will for sure get fired.

    Now he has like an 81% chance to remain.

    How is this in any way a positive?

    First he lies and says he knew nothing about the 2015 abuse and then when there is proof- he claims he has always followed reporting procedures- he has proved himself a liar- why should we believe him? Where is the report he made in 2015?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
  • SyphilisButterSyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    No. The one question he had to be most ready for (he fired the coach THE PREVIOUS DAY) caught him off guard? No one with a shred of intelligence is buying that. Nor does kicking the blame up the chain absolve him. On the contrary he'll be twice dishonored. A liar and a fool.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Urbz is backtracking by sayying he failed to recall the allegations and wasn't prepared to discuss publicly sensitive content.

    I think it's a smart move, he's not doubling down on the lie because he and his wife will get roasted and he will for sure get fired.

    Now he has like an 81% chance to remain.

    How is this in any way a positive?

    First he lies and says he knew nothing about the 2015 abuse and then when there is proof- he claims he has always followed reporting procedures- he has proved himself a liar- why should we believe him? Where is the report he made in 2015?
    He clearly lied to the media and got caught, but he covered his tracks by saying he was caught off guard and he actually took all the correct actions his contract required him too.

    It moves the blame up the chain, he's only guilty of saying fuck off to the media.

    People plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit under pressure all the time. It's a viable excuse for him to say he panicked and wasn't prepared.

    It's all bullshit, but he found his loophole in the court of law.</blockquot

    People forget that Urbs didn’t commit any crimes, so it’s going to boil down whether the addendum in his contract holds up in a court of law when he sues for wrongful firing, should it happen.

    #coffeewalkbitches
  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    salemcoog said:

    This shit won’t hold up in court when Urb sues the tOSU for 20 Mill or whatever amount was left on his contract. Just because a clause is in a contract, doesn’t mean it’s enforceable in a court of law.

    Jesus.
  • SyphilisButterSyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    So a week ago he was willing to lie and attempt to discredit another man. But this time he is totally being truthful and we should believe him.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,030 Founders Club
    Sounds like you care
  • SyphilisButterSyphilisButter Member Posts: 221

    Sounds like you care

    never met any buckeye fans, i suppose? i want them to suffer greatly.
  • HorrifyinglyAlluringHorrifyinglyAlluring Member Posts: 102
    this is nothing to shit he looked the other way on while @ florida

    hernandez, chris "ill kill you bitch" rainey etc etc etc etc

    hes rick pitino of football, but he's no better than brian kelly

    brian kelly's 2012 wins vacated for academic scandal, a kid died at practice on kelly's watch, he's assaulted assistants on the sidelines of games and rumored to be heavy handed privately.

    if/when urban gets fired notre dame should bring him in as a program analyst or some ridiculous position under the radar. let him groom ND's next 2nd tier coach. when rebuilding a program, there probably isn't a better coach in the country. it seemed like at utah and florida, he stops giving a shit about sustaining his process, unlike saban.

    its rumored that gene smith has dirt on urban and tOSU, and has threatened the program entirely saying if he was fired, "he will bring the whole program down"

    either way, he's a winner and i'm pretty sure osu is going to do everything in their power to "railroad" someone else so he can remain.
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