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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726
    dnc said:

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
    Stop living in the past!














    Quite honestly though, this is what the left fails understand. When you live your life by the outrage of the day, last month's outrage never has time to get addressed.
    I guess what I'm saying is the left needs to learn to FOCUS, dammit!
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,412

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    In urban areas...but not in rural areas. The electoral college was created so a few high population states didn't dictate politics over the entire country. It's funny how now after over 100 years, the rules need to be changed.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter

    I actually support one of her ideas:

    Universal Jobs Guarantee: We already fork over billions of dollars every year for welfare benefits. Why can't the government open up beach cleanup, forest cleanup, and trail maintenance teams. You do away with welfare outside of SSI recipients who physically or mentally can't work. We already pay these people, so why not make them work for it. At least the government gets something for the money they pay out.

    Democrats won't allow it as then they can't purchase those same votes with our tax money.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,784 Founders Club

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    Ok but Obama got elected twice and Hillary ran in 2008 against Gay Marriage. Not sure that indicates broad support. Most people just roll their eyes.

    The GOP may throw the Dems a lifeline by shit talking abortion in regards to the Supremes. Abortion of some sort does have broad support

    People want someone else to pay more taxes and have free trips to the doctor for a runny nose? They don't vote that way though. Or else Hilary would be president

    I've challenged the democrats to run this fall on raising taxes. People know it isn't the rich that get soaked
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oppress

    To crush or burden by abuse of power or authority.

    99% of the country is being oppressed.
    100% of all mankind is oppressed one way or another. It's to what degree of oppression that makes the difference. 99% of American's aren't being oppressed of food, shelter, voting rights, etc. like many other countries. I respect your point of view, but blanket stating that everybody outside of the top 1% of income earners are oppressed sounds pretty entitled, considering most of the 99% live very comfortable lives.
    America. The only place a poor person checks their food stamp balance on an $800.00 smart phone!
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.



    Not to mention when trump busts out the legalizing weed ahead of the election hell win in a landslide.

    I got problems man.
    Is a bitch one of them?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
    I must have. Because I don't remember it at all. Every day there's some new huge thing that's going to shake the foundations of our civilization!

    When the fuck did people start listening to teenagers?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,152 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
    Stop living in the past!














    Quite honestly though, this is what the left fails understand. When you live your life by the outrage of the day, last month's outrage never has time to get addressed.
    I guess what I'm saying is the left needs to learn to FOCUS, dammit!


    Troof. The Outrage De Jour approach is like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher.

    MeToo, Black Lives Matter, income inequality, save the whales, universal health care, gun control, dreamers, carbon footprint, transgender.....

    Just pick one for a year or so, get something done and STFU about the rest.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,207

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.



    Not to mention when trump busts out the legalizing weed ahead of the election hell win in a landslide.

    I got problems man.
    Is a bitch one of them?
    Always.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited June 2018

    salemcoog said:

    It should be. All those things poll really well. Corporate democrats are fighting it though because they’d rather lose than represent the voters.

    Or.... Maybe some of them have at least a slice of integrity and won’t run on Faery tails.

    Either way, lack of abundance.
    And this is why we can’t be friends. What is this nonsense? You’re talking about Obama and Hillary, you fucking idiot. Yes, nothing screams integrity like elected politicians making every deccision based on who donated how much to them.

    If you look at that list of platforms and hate it, that’s fine. But you want to pretend it shows a lack of integrity, if you want to play victim like @Southerndawg , then we can never be on the same team. Millennials and Gen Z are coming and everything on that platform is going to happen whether you like it or not. And when really big shit comes up, things like freedom of speech, people like me aren’t going to fight them. Because I’d rather let them fuck up the constitution then ever be on the same side as someone like you.
    You should be ashamed to be alive and should kill yourself immediately for saying something so stupid. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I knew you had no respect for free speech or the constitution, this confirms it. The pendulum swings both ways you fucking robot. If everything comes to pass as you say, you won't have any rights either. If you have no use for democracy, maybe you should self deport.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,207

    salemcoog said:

    It should be. All those things poll really well. Corporate democrats are fighting it though because they’d rather lose than represent the voters.

    Or.... Maybe some of them have at least a slice of integrity and won’t run on Faery tails.

    Either way, lack of abundance.
    And this is why we can’t be friends. What is this nonsense? You’re talking about Obama and Hillary, you fucking idiot. Yes, nothing screams integrity like elected politicians making every deccision based on who donated how much to them.

    If you look at that list of platforms and hate it, that’s fine. But you want to pretend it shows a lack of integrity, if you want to play victim like @Southerndawg , then we can never be on the same team. Millennials and Gen Z are coming and everything on that platform is going to happen whether you like it or not. And when really big shit comes up, things like freedom of speech, people like me aren’t going to fight them. Because I’d rather let them fuck up the constitution then ever be on the same side as someone like you.
    You should be ashamed to be alive and should kill yourself immediately for saying something so stupid. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I knew you had no respect for free speech or the constitution, this confirms it. The pendulum swings both ways you fucking robot. If everything comes to pass as you say, you won't have any rights either. If you have no use for democracy, maybe you should self deport.
    you mean:


    LEAVE!!!!!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited June 2018
    It's becoming clear the intolerant left has become so unhinged and radical they will need to be dealt with one way or another. They are fascists of another stripe, and the American people have been too patient with their temper tantrums and too lax in guarding their freedoms from these lunatics who want open borders, restricted speech, increased taxation and confiscation of guns, among other, radical policies. It's also clear that the leaders in the democrat party not only don't have the will to resist this movement, they stoke the flames for political gain. These fascists should be clear about the nature of the American people. We? value our freedom and will OBLITERATE any political movement threatening that freedom, whether abroad or at home. They'll need to pry it from our cold, dead fingers, but they won't ever get that far. Because

    We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.


    The message is simple. And it's for the radicals on both sides.

    FUCK YOU.

    We destroyed Nazi Germany.
    We collapsed the USSR.
    We went batshit crazy on Kamikaze Japan.

    You want to try us?
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,801
    Being lectured about

    It's becoming clear the intolerant left has become so unhinged and radical they will need to be dealt with one way or another. They are fascists of another stripe, and the American people have been too patient with their temper tantrums and too lax in guarding their freedoms from these lunatics who want open borders, restricted speech, increased taxation and confiscation of guns, among other, radical policies. It's also clear that the leaders in the democrat party not only don't have the will to resist this movement, they stoke the flames for political gain. These fascists should be clear about the nature of the American people. We? value our freedom and will OBLITERATE any political movement threatening that freedom, whether abroad or at home. They'll need to pry it from our cold, dead fingers, but they won't ever get that far. Because

    We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.


    The message is simple.

    FUCK YOU.

    This is a great message board poast
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,924 Founders Club



    HEBAR


    Thread. Important .gifs. Belongs.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
    Stop living in the past!














    Quite honestly though, this is what the left fails understand. When you live your life by the outrage of the day, last month's outrage never has time to get addressed.
    I guess what I'm saying is the left needs to learn to FOCUS, dammit!


    Troof. The Outrage De Jour approach is like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher.

    MeToo, Black Lives Matter, income inequality, save the whales, universal health care, gun control, dreamers, carbon footprint, transgender.....

    Just pick one for a year or so, get something done and STFU about the rest.

    It's almost like people have different causes.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    It's becoming clear the intolerant left has become so unhinged and radical they will need to be dealt with one way or another. They are fascists of another stripe, and the American people have been too patient with their temper tantrums and too lax in guarding their freedoms from these lunatics who want open borders, restricted speech, increased taxation and confiscation of guns, among other, radical policies. It's also clear that the leaders in the democrat party not only don't have the will to resist this movement, they stoke the flames for political gain. These fascists should be clear about the nature of the American people. We? value our freedom and will OBLITERATE any political movement threatening that freedom, whether abroad or at home. They'll need to pry it from our cold, dead fingers, but they won't ever get that far. Because

    We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.


    The message is simple. And it's for the radicals on both sides.

    FUCK YOU.

    We destroyed Nazi Germany.
    We collapsed the USSR.
    We went batshit crazy on Kamikaze Japan.

    You want to try us?

    We?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,152 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
    Stop living in the past!














    Quite honestly though, this is what the left fails understand. When you live your life by the outrage of the day, last month's outrage never has time to get addressed.
    I guess what I'm saying is the left needs to learn to FOCUS, dammit!


    Troof. The Outrage De Jour approach is like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher.

    MeToo, Black Lives Matter, income inequality, save the whales, universal health care, gun control, dreamers, carbon footprint, transgender.....

    Just pick one for a year or so, get something done and STFU about the rest.

    It's almost like people have different causes.
    Not according to my friends’ Facebook posts.

    *all three of them.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    salemcoog said:

    It should be. All those things poll really well. Corporate democrats are fighting it though because they’d rather lose than represent the voters.

    Or.... Maybe some of them have at least a slice of integrity and won’t run on Faery tails.

    Either way, lack of abundance.
    And this is why we can’t be friends. What is this nonsense? You’re talking about Obama and Hillary, you fucking idiot. Yes, nothing screams integrity like elected politicians making every deccision based on who donated how much to them.

    If you look at that list of platforms and hate it, that’s fine. But you want to pretend it shows a lack of integrity, if you want to play victim like @Southerndawg , then we can never be on the same team. Millennials and Gen Z are coming and everything on that platform is going to happen whether you like it or not. And when really big shit comes up, things like freedom of speech, people like me aren’t going to fight them. Because I’d rather let them fuck up the constitution then ever be on the same side as someone like you.
    You should be ashamed to be alive and should kill yourself immediately for saying something so stupid. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I knew you had no respect for free speech or the constitution, this confirms it. The pendulum swings both ways you fucking robot. If everything comes to pass as you say, you won't have any rights either. If you have no use for democracy, maybe you should self deport.
    Triggered?
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    It's becoming clear the intolerant left has become so unhinged and radical they will need to be dealt with one way or another. They are fascists of another stripe, and the American people have been too patient with their temper tantrums and too lax in guarding their freedoms from these lunatics who want open borders, restricted speech, increased taxation and confiscation of guns, among other, radical policies. It's also clear that the leaders in the democrat party not only don't have the will to resist this movement, they stoke the flames for political gain. These fascists should be clear about the nature of the American people. We? value our freedom and will OBLITERATE any political movement threatening that freedom, whether abroad or at home. They'll need to pry it from our cold, dead fingers, but they won't ever get that far. Because

    We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.


    The message is simple. And it's for the radicals on both sides.

    FUCK YOU.

    We destroyed Nazi Germany.
    We collapsed the USSR.
    We went batshit crazy on Kamikaze Japan.

    You want to try us?

    Definitely triggered.
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