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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    This country is built on systematic racism and as demographics continue to shift those communities will be ready to tear it down regardless of who was actually affected. Oppression is a strong word, but that doesn't mean it can't be achieved by subtle means.
    The communities tore it down in the 60's and LA again in the 90's and we had sporadic riots this decade

    Yeah but the job still hasnt been done.
    As someone who watched America burn in the 60's from the couch, I can tell you it had a major impact on moving things forward. I understand the need not to declare victory but those who don't see the huge change in this country over the last 60 years are just looking for votes

    We've come a long way baby

    Its still the economy. Not sure why the dems don't copy what wins for them. Even Obama won on the economy because it was nice enough to crash for him

    Unite and conquer.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,836
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    This country is built on systematic racism and as demographics continue to shift those communities will be ready to tear it down regardless of who was actually affected. Oppression is a strong word, but that doesn't mean it can't be achieved by subtle means.
    The communities tore it down in the 60's and LA again in the 90's and we had sporadic riots this decade

    Yeah but the job still hasnt been done.
    You want the job done, you need Mexicans getting busy, not the blacks.

    Everybody knows that.
    This entire message board is naive and borderline racist. You have people starting threads after we offered a kid with “(dark skinned)” in parenthesis. It’s embarrassing. It’s almost like the majority of posters have never left Seattle/Western Washington which isn’t exactly the cradle of diversity.
    Everybody knows that, too.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    This country is built on systematic racism and as demographics continue to shift those communities will be ready to tear it down regardless of who was actually affected. Oppression is a strong word, but that doesn't mean it can't be achieved by subtle means.
    It’s cute when the little Dwags are molded by rap lyrics and today’s bullshit media. Anyone that wants to work and get better can do so In todays America. Those that would rather have it given to them via some sort of contrived revolution or reparation spend their time hooking guilty whites. And those guilty whites hook other guilty whites. It spreads like a fucking virus.
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oppress

    To crush or burden by abuse of power or authority.

    99% of the country is being oppressed.
    100% of all mankind is oppressed one way or another. It's to what degree of oppression that makes the difference. 99% of American's aren't being oppressed of food, shelter, voting rights, etc. like many other countries. I respect your point of view, but blanket stating that everybody outside of the top 1% of income earners are oppressed sounds pretty entitled, considering most of the 99% live very comfortable lives.
    Sure. And if you wait for things like food, shelter and voting rights to go it’ll already be to late.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,278
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oppress

    To crush or burden by abuse of power or authority.

    99% of the country is being oppressed.
    100% of all mankind is oppressed one way or another. It's to what degree of oppression that makes the difference. 99% of American's aren't being oppressed of food, shelter, voting rights, etc. like many other countries. I respect your point of view, but blanket stating that everybody outside of the top 1% of income earners are oppressed sounds pretty entitled, considering most of the 99% live very comfortable lives.
    Sure. And if you wait for things like food, shelter and voting rights to go it’ll already be to late.
    If you pass stupid shit like universal healthcare, price controls on real estate, free universities, which will raise taxes to levels that will make the wealthy leave, then sure it might become a reality.

    You can't socialize a free market system. It doesn't work. The socialist dreams in the Nordic region of the world, started out socialists. Totally different animal, and they have pitfalls too.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,741
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    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    This country is built on systematic racism and as demographics continue to shift those communities will be ready to tear it down regardless of who was actually affected. Oppression is a strong word, but that doesn't mean it can't be achieved by subtle means.
    It’s cute when the little Dwags are molded by rap lyrics and today’s bullshit media. Anyone that wants to work and get better can do so In todays America. Those that would rather have it given to them via some sort of contrived revolution or reparation spend their time hooking guilty whites. And those guilty whites hook other guilty whites. It spreads like a fucking virus.
    lmao
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    In my lifetime, or lets the later couple of centuries, the violence was more on the right and more dangerous since they were able to act out on racist violence for a long time in this country.

    Do I care what Maxine Waters says or if some gal got asked to leave a diner? No, not with kids in cages on the border

    Most Americans are soft, fat and lazy and talk is all you will get

    This is what I was going to poast. I swear!

    Our? standard of living in the US is too high. Yes, even pour, dumb, stinky, greasy, in-bred southern raysists can order Dominos and watch cable. We? aren't nearly close enough to the edge where there will be a critical mass of people rising up to take arms, and whomever controls the military will squash whatever does happen in five seconds. We? just aren't tuff enuff for full fledged anarchy and home-turf war.

    If we were in Port-au-Prince, different story. Much less to lose.
    I'm not saying it will be all out physical war, but it won't be civil.
    It's not civil now bubba.

    In my lifetime, or lets the later couple of centuries, the violence was more on the right and more dangerous since they were able to act out on racist violence for a long time in this country.

    Do I care what Maxine Waters says or if some gal got asked to leave a diner? No, not with kids in cages on the border

    Most Americans are soft, fat and lazy and talk is all you will get

    This is what I was going to poast. I swear!

    Our? standard of living in the US is too high. Yes, even pour, dumb, stinky, greasy, in-bred southern raysists can order Dominos and watch cable. We? aren't nearly close enough to the edge where there will be a critical mass of people rising up to take arms, and whomever controls the military will squash whatever does happen in five seconds. We? just aren't tuff enuff for full fledged anarchy and home-turf war.

    If we were in Port-au-Prince, different story. Much less to lose.
    So true. The fact that millennials complain about oppression, when they have high speed unfiltered internet, gaming devices, pizza delivery, and smart phones, is humorous on many levels.
    To be clear, I'm talking about EVERYBODY, both sides of the divide. There are a lot of tuff-talking hombres out there, but when it comes to game time, Americans across the board have it too good to try and burn it down ... or more to the point, to risk their biscuits fighting a bunch of other Americans that they don't have to fight.

    We're too fucking soft.

    The retired pharmacist (or whatever) in Greece who LIT HIMSELF ON FUCKING FIRE to protest the government's austerity program? He wasn't soft. Us? Over politics and policy? NFW.
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oppress

    To crush or burden by abuse of power or authority.

    99% of the country is being oppressed.
    100% of all mankind is oppressed one way or another. It's to what degree of oppression that makes the difference. 99% of American's aren't being oppressed of food, shelter, voting rights, etc. like many other countries. I respect your point of view, but blanket stating that everybody outside of the top 1% of income earners are oppressed sounds pretty entitled, considering most of the 99% live very comfortable lives.
    Sure. And if you wait for things like food, shelter and voting rights to go it’ll already be to late.
    If you pass stupid shit like universal healthcare, price controls on real estate, free universities, which will raise taxes to levels that will make the wealthy leave, then sure it might become a reality.

    You can't socialize a free market system. It doesn't work. The socialist dreams in the Nordic region of the world, started out socialists. Totally different animal.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oppress

    To crush or burden by abuse of power or authority.

    99% of the country is being oppressed.
    100% of all mankind is oppressed one way or another. It's to what degree of oppression that makes the difference. 99% of American's aren't being oppressed of food, shelter, voting rights, etc. like many other countries. I respect your point of view, but blanket stating that everybody outside of the top 1% of income earners are oppressed sounds pretty entitled, considering most of the 99% live very comfortable lives.
    Sure. And if you wait for things like food, shelter and voting rights to go it’ll already be to late.
    If you pass stupid shit like universal healthcare, price controls on real estate, free universities, which will raise taxes to levels that will make the wealthy leave, then sure it might become a reality.

    You can't socialize a free market system. It doesn't work. The socialist dreams in the Nordic region of the world, started out socialists. Totally different animal.

    Uncle Phil?

    Not sure what you call the house greens
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    HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,584
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    Frankly the only political thing I really care all that much about is our shitty food that's lead to the obesity epidemic.
    Being fat probably causes more problems with health Care and people dying than everything else combined by a wide margin.

    Plus it lessens the amount of doable chicks.

    Unless you are a chubby chaser like obk





    I do get a kick out of the Democrats incompetence though. But it's not like I relate to the freaking religious right.
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    Frankly the only political thing I really care all that much about is our shitty food that's lead to the obesity epidemic.
    Being fat probably causes more problems with health Care and people dying than everything else combined by a wide margin.

    Plus it lessens the amount of doable chicks.

    Unless you are a chubby chaser like obk

    God bless you. Never Change.
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    HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,584
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    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.



    Not to mention when trump busts out the legalizing weed ahead of the election hell win in a landslide.

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    HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.



    Not to mention when trump busts out the legalizing weed ahead of the election hell win in a landslide.

    I got problems man.
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