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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,776 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
  • BaphometBaphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    Short term, sure. Long term, this will drive up interest rates (because it will increase federal borrowing), which will hurt home buyers, and home sellers hoping to retire on the sale of their homes in the next few years as prices decline.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
    While Obama was shitty on the deficit. The deficit basically went down every year of his presidency.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
    While Obama was shitty on the deficit. The deficit basically went down every year of his presidency.
    Again, if Obama couldn't, no one can. Well, of course Hillary or Warren, but this country is far too sexist to elect them, despite all the good those women would do for the deficit.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,412
    edited June 2018
    Baphomet said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    Short term, sure. Long term, this will drive up interest rates (because it will increase federal borrowing), which will hurt home buyers, and home sellers hoping to retire on the sale of their homes in the next few years as prices decline.
    You realize interest rates are still extremely low historically?

    However, rising interests rates do suck because it drives more Californian’s up here. Get off my state!!!
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
    While Obama was shitty on the deficit. The deficit basically went down every year of his presidency.
    Yeah it went down so much the deficit only doubled under his leadership. Spent more than all previous presidents combined. Math much?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
    While Obama was shitty on the deficit. The deficit basically went down every year of his presidency.
    Yeah it went down so much the deficit only doubled under his leadership. Spent more than all previous presidents combined. Math much?
    The deficit did not double. You'd think after years here you'd realize the difference between deficit and debt.

    Dumbfuck.

    And yes math is lost on you. Spent more than all previous Presidents combined. Da fuq.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
    While Obama was shitty on the deficit. The deficit basically went down every year of his presidency.
    Again, if Obama couldn't, no one can. Well, of course Hillary or Warren, but this country is far too sexist to elect them, despite all the good those women would do for the deficit.
    Wwoooooossshhhhh
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,400 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Please to be providing us? with an example of tax cuts in the past 50 years that achieved enuff growth to shrink national debt as a percentage of GDP.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    Fuck taxes. Cut spending

    It's my money not the government's
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Fuck taxes. Cut spending

    It's my money not the government's

    Yes politicians on both sides of the aisle have been proactive at cutting spending.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    That's not the point dick brain
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    That's not the point dick brain

    What's the point then shit breath? Do you want to vote in politicians who will cut spending? Good luck with that.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Here's doogbot in this thread:

    Polls on the economy matter, not polls on the tax bill. Because the 2 are related.

    Then he responds that there are too many factors to point solely at tax cuts and correlation to growth.

    Then he doubles down and says that tax cuts create enough growth to reduce debt as a percent of GDP.

    Nice work!!!
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,400 Founders Club

    Fuck taxes. Cut spending

    It's my money not the government's

    Fuck yeah, now we're talking. Let's get in the bath tub and drown those mother fuckers.


  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    I don't know a single person who doesn't like the tax cuts. Poor people. Wealthy people. Black people. White devils. Every single person I have ever spoken with about them likes them. Where are all these people who hate their own money?

    I think they are overrated, but then again I tend to be BRB, JO about the prospect of a balanced budget (never will happen but I can still fantasize). Tax cuts = Fast Strategy. Fiscal sanity = Slow Strategy.
    Tax cuts(within reason and ceteris paribus) = growth

    Growth = debt as a smaller portion of revenue/GDP

    Also, when the world stops letting the US service their debt at negative interest rates THEN we should balance the budget. Who would turn down a loan at a -1.5% rate...
    Not when the deficit is much larger than the growth rate. As it is right now.
    If Obama couldn't get it fixed, no one can
    How is Trump doing on the deficit? I'm not sure that's an argument you want to make.
    If future Rushmore chinductee Obama only made the deficit worse, despite his best heroic, learned and professorial efforts, how can we expect the biggest buffoon ever in the office to do any better? Game over man. #WeAreASubSaharanCountry
    While Obama was shitty on the deficit. The deficit basically went down every year of his presidency.
    Yeah it went down so much the deficit only doubled under his leadership. Spent more than all previous presidents combined. Math much?
    The deficit did not double. You'd think after years here you'd realize the difference between deficit and debt.

    Dumbfuck.

    And yes math is lost on you. Spent more than all previous Presidents combined. Da fuq.
    Suck it

    Debt Added Since Obama Took Office
    The largest number comes from calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, when he left, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president.
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