Sam "Boston Lager" Adams, 4* 2020 RB, Bellevue (Eastside Catholic), WA (COMMITTED)
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TBSers love the thrill of the chase. They can spin it any way they want, but that’s the truth.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
TBS retards have a hard time accepting Boner and Pao coach good to great playersRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t, but it doesn’t matter once they get to college. It doesn’t matter how hey get there, just get good players. Our RB’s are good and we are adding two more good ones this year.FirePete said:
Chris brown fucking ate us the fuck apart in cal game. Guess what? he was higher on our board that dick was in that year. Do not confuse how good the player is vs how hard he was to recruit.RoadDawg55 said:
Newton is a beast, Ahmed is better. Sunday is going to be just like Newton and Adams is highly touted. Not sure about Cam Davis, but a lot of you guys really like him. The Boner hate can die now.NorwegianHusky said:
For what? KB finally hitting a lay-up? Sam Adams is to the RB position what Hunger Bryant is to TE. KB and Paopao still suck.PurpleJ said:@NorwegianHusky owes me an apology IMo
Paopao should have recruited another TE or two. We are thin there right now. The ones we have are good tho.
Boner’s churning out good RB’s. I don’t really care who they missed out on before Newton. I don’t care that ahmed was a lay up. Newton was offered early and is good. The ones after Newton will be good. -
so it is retarded that we want the coaches to be good recruiters and good coaches right? they do not need to be mutually exclusive.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
TBS retards have a hard time accepting Boner and Pao coach good to great playersRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t, but it doesn’t matter once they get to college. It doesn’t matter how hey get there, just get good players. Our RB’s are good and we are adding two more good ones this year.FirePete said:
Chris brown fucking ate us the fuck apart in cal game. Guess what? he was higher on our board that dick was in that year. Do not confuse how good the player is vs how hard he was to recruit.RoadDawg55 said:
Newton is a beast, Ahmed is better. Sunday is going to be just like Newton and Adams is highly touted. Not sure about Cam Davis, but a lot of you guys really like him. The Boner hate can die now.NorwegianHusky said:
For what? KB finally hitting a lay-up? Sam Adams is to the RB position what Hunger Bryant is to TE. KB and Paopao still suck.PurpleJ said:@NorwegianHusky owes me an apology IMo
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Recruits don’t often come to a school for a position coach. It’s part of it and being a good salesman does help.
The need to care so much about position coaches is baffling. It’s mostly made up bullshit. -
Sure, position coaches don't matter, this is why Petermen and Kawasaki made a huge deal and accommodation to retain Jimmy Lake.RoadDawg55 said:Recruits don’t often come to a school for a position coach. It’s part of it and being a good salesman does help.
The need to care so much about position coaches is baffling. It’s mostly made up bullshit.
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There's no difference between Lubick and Jr. Adams either. Totally made up bullshit.RoadDawg55 said:Recruits don’t often come to a school for a position coach. It’s part of it and being a good salesman does help.
The need to care so much about position coaches is baffling. It’s mostly made up bullshit. -
This is too far the other way. Position coaches absolutely matter.RoadDawg55 said:Recruits don’t often come to a school for a position coach. It’s part of it and being a good salesman does help.
The need to care so much about position coaches is baffling. It’s mostly made up bullshit.
Pease and Lubick have absolutely hurt our team with their inability to recruit. Adams and the program itself saved our ass to an extent by geting Puka. The recruiting at that position has been so bad that we are unbalanced on the roster with as many scholarships we have used to try to make up for how bad the talent has been there.
Strausser seemed to be a great coach but worthless as a recruiter and was canned for it.
Lake has been an excellent coach and pretty good recruiter, but early entries and two injuries at safety (Irvin and Joyner) have us vunerable there. If we had Pola Mao that year we missed him our secondary would look a lot different.
Gregory is a great coach but can't relate to players/recruit very well from what it seems. The fact that we had to take so many linebackers last year because of the gap in years at that position is another problem. Kaho was a weird situation, but EIfler leaving is a big deal right now that they couldn't get him ready to play.
Tight End is great right now, if Bryant or Otton get hurt this year not so much because we like to use two or three at a time and Pete is obviously pissed about it. We may be limited in the packages we can run.
I agree the TBS'ers overstate certain things sometimes but right now our Linebacker, Safety and WR issues are pretty embarrassing for a program that has spent the past 3 years in the top 15 in the country with USC and UCLA simultaneously trying to run their programs into the ground.
Safety i understand to an extent with the early entries and timely injuries, but you are not going to win a conference title with the glaring roster holes we have right now and it year 6 with Pete. This is due roster mismanagement. If we weren't blowing so many Schollies on WR's to make up for the incompetence of Pease and Lubick maybe we hit on another safety recruit one of those years or we hit on a linebacker (probably not with Gregory running point) but it is important.
As a 37 year old i forgot how important it was because we sucked for so long, then you play Bama, Penn State, and Ohio State and just see how those programs reload. We will probably never recruit like bama or ohio state consistently, but we should be able to match penn state, michigan and similar teams in that next tier. I would never expect a program like that to be starting Cam Williams as a true freshman and Myles Bryant out of position as safeties int he same secondary. Kyler Manu as a linebacker or 3 situational WR's at best as your starting trio. This has more to do with the assistant coaches and their recruiting. It is not the only thing that matters (See Mora's staff at UCLA), but it is really important. -
KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
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Nobody is acting like we are RBU. It’s just not a problematic position. If Bama or Saquan Barkley is the standard, then we suck at almost every position. Gaskin was a favorite but he’s behind those guys too.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
I simply think Newton is going to be very good. Ahmed has played well the last two games too. Sunday will be a monster too. You guys are too stuck on ratings. Good players are good players and we have them at RB. -
Good rb get positive yards. I know ground breaking takeRoadDawg55 said:
Nobody is acting like we are RBU. It’s just not a problematic position. If Bama or Saquan Barkley is the standard, then we suck at almost every position. Gaskin was a favorite but he’s behind those guys too.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
I simply think Newton is going to be very good. Ahmed has played well the last two games too. Sunday will be a monster too. You guys are too stuck on ratings. Good players are good players and we have them at RB. -
I'd take those Bama backs in a heartbeat at UW.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
Its amazing how few have made a big impact in the NFL
Running backs in general are less important but still -
I know you're being sarkastic, but those running backs don't have any college eligibility left.RaceBannon said:
I'd take those Bama backs in a heartbeat at UW.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
Its amazing how few have made a big impact in the NFL
Running backs in general are less important but still -
If I recall the TBSer standard for how good a coach is at recruiting is how well they get their top targets, not how well they coach up the guys they do get. Don't think this thread needs any more aids on that topic.
I'm happy to get Sam Adams.
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It’s not a problematic position because there are a million guys that can do fine on a good team with good blocking. Great, we have a couple of them. Maybe. We certainly don’t have a stable.RoadDawg55 said:
Nobody is acting like we are RBU. It’s just not a problematic position. If Bama or Saquan Barkley is the standard, then we suck at almost every position. Gaskin was a favorite but he’s behind those guys too.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
I simply think Newton is going to be very good. Ahmed has played well the last two games too. Sunday will be a monster too. You guys are too stuck on ratings. Good players are good players and we have them at RB.
But yes Zeke Elliott, Saquon Barkley, Derrick He Ray, Damien Harris, Travis Etienne are the standard. We are trying to win national championships here not lose to Cal. -
Not really. I mean they’re decent college backs, but that’s it. I would hope for better if we aspire to reach the CFP level. We should be signing guys at the Charbonnet, Bijan, Milton level. Instead, what do we have? The 6th best RB in the conference?RoadDawg55 said:
Nobody is acting like we are RBU. It’s just not a problematic position. If Bama or Saquan Barkley is the standard, then we suck at almost every position. Gaskin was a favorite but he’s behind those guys too.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
I simply think Newton is going to be very good. Ahmed has played well the last two games too. Sunday will be a monster too. You guys are too stuck on ratings. Good players are good players and we have them at RB. -
Yes, Ahmed and Newton played a large role in that loss.FremontTroll said:
It’s not a problematic position because there are a million guys that can do fine on a good team with good blocking. Great, we have a couple of them. Maybe. We certainly don’t have a stable.RoadDawg55 said:
Nobody is acting like we are RBU. It’s just not a problematic position. If Bama or Saquan Barkley is the standard, then we suck at almost every position. Gaskin was a favorite but he’s behind those guys too.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
I simply think Newton is going to be very good. Ahmed has played well the last two games too. Sunday will be a monster too. You guys are too stuck on ratings. Good players are good players and we have them at RB.
But yes Zeke Elliott, Saquon Barkley, Derrick He Ray, Damien Harris, Travis Etienne are the standard. We are trying to win national championships here not lose to Cal. -
Mad_Son said:
If I recall the TBSer standard for how good a coach is at recruiting is how well they get their top targets, not how well they coach up the guys they do get. Don't think this thread needs any more aids on that topic.
I'm happy to get Sam Adams.
Newton wasn’t the first choice, but he was an early offer. We got him and he’s good.
If he was a 4 or 5 star that was recruited by everyone, this narrative wouldn’t exist or at least would be less of an issue. That’s why it’s stupid. Newton is probably better than a lot of guys you had higher on your wish lists. Spin away.
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They tend to rated high and are hard to recruit. So having a good recruiter is important to get good playersRoadDawg55 said:Mad_Son said:If I recall the TBSer standard for how good a coach is at recruiting is how well they get their top targets, not how well they coach up the guys they do get. Don't think this thread needs any more aids on that topic.
I'm happy to get Sam Adams.
Newton wasn’t the first choice, but he was an early offer. We got him and he’s good.
If he was a 4 or 5 star that was recruited by everyone, this narrative wouldn’t exist or at least would be less of an issue. That’s why it’s stupid. Newton is probably better than a lot of guys you had higher on your wish lists. Spin away.
Get good players and develop them. -
There weren't a number of guys higher than Newton on the wish list because there weren't any RBs on the west coast that year.RoadDawg55 said:Mad_Son said:If I recall the TBSer standard for how good a coach is at recruiting is how well they get their top targets, not how well they coach up the guys they do get. Don't think this thread needs any more aids on that topic.
I'm happy to get Sam Adams.
Newton wasn’t the first choice, but he was an early offer. We got him and he’s good.
If he was a 4 or 5 star that was recruited by everyone, this narrative wouldn’t exist or at least would be less of an issue. That’s why it’s stupid. Newton is probably better than a lot of guys you had higher on your wish lists. Spin away.
Get good players and develop them.
Newton isn't the problem.
The problem, if there is one, is that Boner consistently doesn't want to go toe to toe with the heavyweights for the best guys. I think it's fair to say he's lazy.
Giving up on Austin Jones when we did was indefensible, especially when he couldn't close Charbonnet.
Running back is a highly overrated position anyway so this is mostly wasted hysteria. But you'd still rather get the best guys, and Boner doesn't appear willing to do what it takes to do that.
He's a good RB coach though, but again, RB coach is a highly overrated position. -
I guess to a degree but at the same time when I see how USC's running backs can change the game with literally ever rock they carry I know that having a top quality running back is incredibly valuable. It's weird to me how USC constantly recruits top running backs and then barely uses them as they make every game plan their QB and young receivers. I'd simply hand off to guys like Carr 30 times a game.dnc said:
There weren't a number of guys higher than Newton on the wish list because there weren't any RBs on the west coast that year.RoadDawg55 said:Mad_Son said:If I recall the TBSer standard for how good a coach is at recruiting is how well they get their top targets, not how well they coach up the guys they do get. Don't think this thread needs any more aids on that topic.
I'm happy to get Sam Adams.
Newton wasn’t the first choice, but he was an early offer. We got him and he’s good.
If he was a 4 or 5 star that was recruited by everyone, this narrative wouldn’t exist or at least would be less of an issue. That’s why it’s stupid. Newton is probably better than a lot of guys you had higher on your wish lists. Spin away.
Get good players and develop them.
Newton isn't the problem.
The problem, if there is one, is that Boner consistently doesn't want to go toe to toe with the heavyweights for the best guys. I think it's fair to say he's lazy.
Giving up on Austin Jones when we did was indefensible, especially when he couldn't close Charbonnet.
Running back is a highly overrated position anyway so this is mostly wasted hysteria. But you'd still rather get the best guys, and Boner doesn't appear willing to do what it takes to do that.
He's a good RB coach though, but again, RB coach is a highly overrated position. -
I guess to a degree but at the same time when I see how USC's running backs can change the game with literally ever rock they carry I know that having a top quality running back is incredibly valuable. It's weird to me how USC constantly recruits top running backs and then barely uses them as they make every game plan their QB and young receivers. I'd simply hand off to guys like Carr 30 times a game.
Hit Pete up...maybe you can apply or at least drop your knowledge into the suggestion box. -
If a player can get the rock 15-25 times a game in their hands ... Is that overrated? If they are good?
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Running back success or failure is determined more by a) the offensive line and b) the formations/play-calling than it is by the running back.animate said:If a player can get the rock 15-25 times a game in their hands ... Is that overrated? If they are good?
I'm not claiming RBs don't matter. I don't believe that. I am saying that they typically get more credit and blame than they deserve. -
Great running backs can cover for other deficiencies and save your ass in games where the offense isn't working otherwise. They are important to most great teams.
Polk, Sankey, or Gaskin would be making plays right now that extend drives and result in points. Instead we have a crew of guys who each have enough ability to take advantage of good blocking and timely play calls. None of them are making things happen on their own, its missed, and it will continue to be missed. -
I love all three of those guys very much but only Polk was extremely highly recruited and he wasn't recruited as a RB.chuck said:Great running backs can cover for other deficiencies and save your ass in games where the offense isn't working otherwise. They are important to most great teams.
Polk, Sankey, or Gaskin would be making plays right now that extend drives and result in points. Instead we have a crew of guys who each have enough ability to take advantage of good blocking and timely play calls. None of them are making things happen on their own, its missed, and it will continue to be missed.
And none of them have done anything in the NFL (obviously still hoping Gaskin does).
We'd be better with one of them starting this year, don't twist, but they kind of prove the point I'm making. Having a Napolean Kauffman or a Corey Dillon is fucking awesome, but those guys are rare and you can win (bigly) without them.
I'd like an RB coach who is at least willing to swing for the fences with those kinds of guys though. -
Good point. The three guys I mentioned were all lucky grabs as recruits since they were all way better than their ratings or offers would've indicated.dnc said:
I love all three of those guys very much but only Polk was extremely highly recruited and he wasn't recruited as a RB.chuck said:Great running backs can cover for other deficiencies and save your ass in games where the offense isn't working otherwise. They are important to most great teams.
Polk, Sankey, or Gaskin would be making plays right now that extend drives and result in points. Instead we have a crew of guys who each have enough ability to take advantage of good blocking and timely play calls. None of them are making things happen on their own, its missed, and it will continue to be missed.
And none of them have done anything in the NFL (obviously still hoping Gaskin does).
We'd be better with one of them starting this year, don't twist, but they kind of prove the point I'm making. Having a Napolean Kauffman or a Corey Dillon is fucking awesome, but those guys are rare and you can win (bigly) without them.
I'd like an RB coach who is at least willing to swing for the fences with those kinds of guys though.
On the other hand, Polk was a fast athlete with a frame to carry significant weight. Sankey had elite speed and quickness and was a workhorse to boot, and Gaskin had amazing vision and elusiveness to go with that stout lower body. These were all things plain to see from their HS videos. The only backs on our roster that had eye popping traits as prospects are Salvon, who we knew was a finesse back who would struggle in a featured role, and a true freshman. The rest are solid role players but there's not one among them that anyone expected to carry the offense at any point. I think it's wrong to argue that the talent level is not below what we should aim for and expect. -
Again, they were fine, not spectacular. Cal’s RBs were better. That shouldn’t happen.RoadDawg55 said:
Yes, Ahmed and Newton played a large role in that loss.FremontTroll said:
It’s not a problematic position because there are a million guys that can do fine on a good team with good blocking. Great, we have a couple of them. Maybe. We certainly don’t have a stable.RoadDawg55 said:
Nobody is acting like we are RBU. It’s just not a problematic position. If Bama or Saquan Barkley is the standard, then we suck at almost every position. Gaskin was a favorite but he’s behind those guys too.FremontTroll said:KB’s RBs are fine but let’s not act like we are RB fucking U or something.
Did you know Bama has had 9 RBs drafted in last 9 years?
Ingram
Richardson
Lacy
Yeldon
Henry
Drake
Scarborough
Jacobs
Harris
LSU 6 in last 7 including Fournette and Guice.
I simply think Newton is going to be very good. Ahmed has played well the last two games too. Sunday will be a monster too. You guys are too stuck on ratings. Good players are good players and we have them at RB.
But yes Zeke Elliott, Saquon Barkley, Derrick He Ray, Damien Harris, Travis Etienne are the standard. We are trying to win national championships here not lose to Cal. -
I thought when we got McGrew it was one of the biggest coups on the West Coast. Same with Wattenburg.
I've liked McGrew this year, but he can also just be a JAG back there, too. What really saddens me is that we have another year of him returning kickoffs. Nothing dynamic there, a la Fuller. -
Can't wait to see this kid in action for the Huskies!
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Dissin Adams over on the DM.c bored, sayin he's not even getting touches?
