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Gun in peril or Culture in peril?

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  • SledogSledog Posts: 6,080
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    Cul
    ture. Sure as hell.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Sadly, there is some truth to this point.

    But, abortion is regulated, and for good reason. You don't want just anyone up in there.

    Should gun ownership be regulated? Should it be a little harder, and take a little longer, to buy one? Regardless of the black market.

    With literally millions of words typed on this forum on this issue, the questions really comes down the that one. Only stupid people advocate for a ban on all weapons and door to door. It's so stupid that I see it as more of a Red Herring for the gun freaks.

    The question is better regulation or no?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 32,717
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    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
    I didn't mention Obama

    The first gun free zone I recall was at a Group Health clinic where I was pimping some flooring. I saw the sign and laughed to myself not out loud.

    And that was quite awhile back. Probably was the 90's
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
    I didn't mention Obama

    The first gun free zone I recall was at a Group Health clinic where I was pimping some flooring. I saw the sign and laughed to myself not out loud.

    And that was quite awhile back. Probably was the 90's
    Yeah, I only flew by another poast an misread it. Nevermind.

    Back to the poont: yes, armed guards. yes, demand better performance. yes, study the issue. alienation? SSRIs? Video Games. Whatever. Put the Harvard people on it. Those fuckers figure out everything it seems.
  • pawzpawz Posts: 5,393
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    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,698
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    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    He ded.
    GrundleStiltzkin
  • obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
    I didn't mention Obama

    The first gun free zone I recall was at a Group Health clinic where I was pimping some flooring. I saw the sign and laughed to myself not out loud.

    And that was quite awhile back. Probably was the 90's
    Yeah, I only flew by another poast an misread it. Nevermind.

    Back to the poont: yes, armed guards. yes, demand better performance. yes, study the issue. alienation? SSRIs? Video Games. Whatever. Put the Harvard people on it. Those fuckers figure out everything it seems.
    @BobMcNamaraDwag68 true?
    RaceBannon
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
    pawz
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 32,717
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
    I kind of chuckle when someone thanks the "Universe". Its like I don't want to say God but I want to thank some mysterious entity but I'm an atheist so I'll just sound stupid and say universe instead.

    I imagine that our atheist friends here find it as silly as I do.

    I'm the kind of guy that insists that atheists be pure in their atheism. There is nothing to thank, no hidden hand, no force no nothing.
    GrundleStiltzkindnccreepycougSledog
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 16,584
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    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    First poont: what liberal actually wants to outlaw guns?

    Second poont: conservatives actually want to outlaw abortion and think that'll stop abortions from happening. Just like banning drugs stopped people from using drugs.
    dncRaceBannonGrundleStiltzkinsalemcoogpawzSledogMikeDamone
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
    I kind of chuckle when someone thanks the "Universe". Its like I don't want to say God but I want to thank some mysterious entity but I'm an atheist so I'll just sound stupid and say universe instead.

    I imagine that our atheist friends here find it as silly as I do.

    I'm the kind of guy that insists that atheists be pure in their atheism. There is nothing to thank, no hidden hand, no force no nothing.
    You're confusing atheism with agnosticism.

    Unless you want to tell me I'm "stupid" for questioning a guy walking on water a few thousand years ago.

    If there is an entity, it is as mysterious to me, as it is to you. You don't know even one more sliver of shit about the true nature of existence than do I, whether you think you've "found" something or not. Uncomfortable though that may be, it is what it is: Universe, God, Alah, Zeus, Mother Nature ... what-ever.

    I hope you enjoyed your chuckle. I enjoyed mine.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 32,717
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
    I kind of chuckle when someone thanks the "Universe". Its like I don't want to say God but I want to thank some mysterious entity but I'm an atheist so I'll just sound stupid and say universe instead.

    I imagine that our atheist friends here find it as silly as I do.

    I'm the kind of guy that insists that atheists be pure in their atheism. There is nothing to thank, no hidden hand, no force no nothing.
    You're confusing atheism with agnosticism.

    Unless you want to tell me I'm "stupid" for questioning a guy walking on water a few thousand years ago.

    If there is an entity, it is as mysterious to me, as it is to you. You don't know even one more sliver of shit about the true nature of existence than do I, whether you think you've "found" something or not. Uncomfortable though that may be, it is what it is: Universe, God, Alah, Zeus, Mother Nature ... what-ever.

    I hope you enjoyed your chuckle. I enjoyed mine.
    There's no such thing as agnostic

    Take a stand
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.










    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
    I kind of chuckle when someone thanks the "Universe". Its like I don't want to say God but I want to thank some mysterious entity but I'm an atheist so I'll just sound stupid and say universe instead.

    I imagine that our atheist friends here find it as silly as I do.

    I'm the kind of guy that insists that atheists be pure in their atheism. There is nothing to thank, no hidden hand, no force no nothing.
    You're confusing atheism with agnosticism.

    Unless you want to tell me I'm "stupid" for questioning a guy walking on water a few thousand years ago.

    If there is an entity, it is as mysterious to me, as it is to you. You don't know even one more sliver of shit about the true nature of existence than do I, whether you think you've "found" something or not. Uncomfortable though that may be, it is what it is: Universe, God, Alah, Zeus, Mother Nature ... what-ever.

    I hope you enjoyed your chuckle. I enjoyed mine.
    There's no such thing as agnostic

    Take a stand
    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 2,255
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    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    salemcoog
  • SledogSledog Posts: 6,080
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    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    If I build that wall around an abortion clinic those fat pregnant bitches ain't getting over it are they?
    creepycoug
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 2,255
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    If I build that wall around an abortion clinic those fat pregnant bitches ain't getting over it are they?
    You’re a genius!

    Neither the “fat pregnant bitch” nor the migrant laborer from Mexico will ever figure out a way around, over, under, or through the wall. $200 billion? Big deal. We will have made it harder and that’s what matters.

    This is the kind of thinking and policy making that has made the US the drug and prostitution free country we are today! MAGA!
  • dfleadflea Posts: 3,671
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    If I build that wall around an abortion clinic those fat pregnant bitches ain't getting over it are they?
    If it was your mom, I'd hire a helicopter for her.

    It would probably take a CH-47 though.
    creepycougpawz
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    If I build that wall around an abortion clinic those fat pregnant bitches ain't getting over it are they?
    You're going to build it, and those abortion doctors are going to pay for it!!!!!!!
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 7,129
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    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    If I build that wall around an abortion clinic those fat pregnant bitches ain't getting over it are they?
    If it was your mom, I'd hire a helicopter for her.

    It would probably take a CH-47 though.
    POTD. Maybe POTM.
    pawzGrundleStiltzkindflea
  • dncdnc Posts: 36,688
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    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Good point. Outlawing migrant immigration from Mexico will work though. Build a wall. Have Mexico pay for it. Trumpanzee logic.
    If I build that wall around an abortion clinic those fat pregnant bitches ain't getting over it are they?
    If it was your mom, I'd hire a helicopter for her.

    It would probably take a CH-47 though.
    What does @Dardanus charge anyway?
    dfleapawzGrundleStiltzkin
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