Zach Charbonnet, 4* 2019 RB, Westlake Village (Oaks Christian), CA (Offered)
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Agreed. But should they really be fine with only taking one RB this year? Ahmed might leave after his junior year, and all we? have beyond that is Pablo McGrewber and Kamari Pleasant-Johnson. Losing Chardonnay is a kick in the nuts. Bonerpha is a cold turd... nuff said on that.StrongArmCobra said:
Of course because he committed to Michigan. Kid should have been rated a 5-star from the beginning. When our commits get bumped up they barely get bumped up. 247 guys refuse to bump a UW 3-star commit higher than a 90 rating. That way they can save face and say "we have him rated as a 4-star!" but they still have a bunch of kids that suck rated ahead of them.Neighbor2972 said:Charbonnet is a borderline 5 star in the latest 247, and Breece Hall is top 150
Fucking kill me
It's not over with Charbonnet. I will not accept it until he signs with Michigan. UW is still going after him and because they have Davis in hand and would be fine with one RB in this class they have no reason to give up on Charbonnet. I hope Petersen has completely taken over his recruitment and in the back of his mind knows he's going to fire KB's fat ass after the season.
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Ballz loves them big backs!StrongArmCobra said:
Of course because he committed to Michigan. Kid should have been rated a 5-star from the beginning. When our commits get bumped up they barely get bumped up. 247 guys refuse to bump a UW 3-star commit higher than a 90 rating. That way they can save face and say "we have him rated as a 4-star!" but they still have a bunch of kids that suck rated ahead of them.Neighbor2972 said:Charbonnet is a borderline 5 star in the latest 247, and Breece Hall is top 150
Fucking kill me
It's not over with Charbonnet. I will not accept it until he signs with Michigan. UW is still going after him and because they have Davis in hand and would be fine with one RB in this class they have no reason to give up on Charbonnet. I hope Petersen has completely taken over his recruitment and in the back of his mind knows he's going to fire KB's fat ass after the season. -
Trey Lowe is better than any of the RBs we are/were recruiting in this class.
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STOpKobeStan said:Trey Lowe is better than any of the RBs we are/were recruiting in this class.
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Off your meds today? Davis is a fucking stud. I take him over LoweKobeStan said:Trey Lowe is better than any of the RBs we are/were recruiting in this class.
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Davis and Charbonnet are both better than Lowe.WeakarmCobra said:
Off your meds today? Davis is a fucking stud. I take him over LoweKobeStan said:Trey Lowe is better than any of the RBs we are/were recruiting in this class.
Jones is way better than Lowe.
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Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
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True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
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I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
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Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
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I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
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We haven't really McGrew yet. We actually have depth at some positions now, so the fact that McGrew hasn't seen a lot of playing time isn't necessarily and indictment of his skill level.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
I mean it could be. We don't really know for sure yet. I'm hoping he's learning to play slot and run routes, but it doesn't look like it. It could very well be that he's just not good enough to get significant snaps at RB. -
He returned some kicks last year and did not look good in doing so. He got tossed like a rag doll in garbage time (I think vs Oregon state if I remember right).Edwin_Bambino said:
I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
If you are that small you need to be extraordinary athletically and I don't see it with him. I see him as a wasted scholarship but Kb is the recruiter so yeah. I stand by my statement he sucks and will never be a significant contributor in any game that matters. White midget tailback.
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Oh that's right. KB is his position coach so he's gonna be 6'8 285 lbs and run 4.2 next year. KB taught Myles Gaskin how to walk after all.AtomicDawg said:
He returned some kicks last year and did not look good in doing so. He got tossed like a rag doll in garbage time (I think vs Oregon state if I remember right).Edwin_Bambino said:
I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
If you are that small you need to be extraordinary athletically and I don't see it with him. I see him as a wasted scholarship but Kb is the recruiter so yeah. I stand by my statement he sucks and will never be a significant contributor in any game that matters. White midget tailback.
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AtomicDawg said:
He returned some kicks last year and did not look good in doing so. He got tossed like a rag doll in garbage time (I think vs Oregon state if I remember right).Edwin_Bambino said:
I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
If you are that small you need to be extraordinary athletically and I don't see it with him. I see him as a wasted scholarship but Kb is the recruiter so yeah. I stand by my statement he sucks and will never be a significant contributor in any game that matters. White midget tailback.
Wait and see on Lowe but a 5'7" slot does not get me excited.
He did get absolutely murdered on at least one kick off last year, I remember that. What game was that in?AtomicDawg said:
He returned some kicks last year and did not look good in doing so. He got tossed like a rag doll in garbage time (I think vs Oregon state if I remember right).Edwin_Bambino said:
I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
If you are that small you need to be extraordinary athletically and I don't see it with him. I see him as a wasted scholarship but Kb is the recruiter so yeah. I stand by my statement he sucks and will never be a significant contributor in any game that matters. White midget tailback.
Wait and see on Lowe but a 5'7" slot does not get me excited. -
Not sure which game the kick off was but I was thinking of him on the goal line getting blown up. I hated all his kick off returns last year though but he was quickly replaced on those by Ahmed. Praise Allah.Edwin_Bambino said:AtomicDawg said:
He returned some kicks last year and did not look good in doing so. He got tossed like a rag doll in garbage time (I think vs Oregon state if I remember right).Edwin_Bambino said:
I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
If you are that small you need to be extraordinary athletically and I don't see it with him. I see him as a wasted scholarship but Kb is the recruiter so yeah. I stand by my statement he sucks and will never be a significant contributor in any game that matters. White midget tailback.
Wait and see on Lowe but a 5'7" slot does not get me excited.
He did get absolutely murdered on at least one kick off last year, I remember that. What game was that in?AtomicDawg said:
He returned some kicks last year and did not look good in doing so. He got tossed like a rag doll in garbage time (I think vs Oregon state if I remember right).Edwin_Bambino said:
I’m not a giant Mcgrew defender or anything but when he’s played he’s looked decent. He’s barely played, the sample size is not nearly large enough to make this statement.AtomicDawg said:
Chico is fine against the crappy teams. McGrew is crappy vs the crappy teams. I think Lowe is more Chico level than McGrew. Would have rather had treshaun Harrison or someone with some decent size than any of them. 5'6" slot backs are special.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
If you are that small you need to be extraordinary athletically and I don't see it with him. I see him as a wasted scholarship but Kb is the recruiter so yeah. I stand by my statement he sucks and will never be a significant contributor in any game that matters. White midget tailback.
Wait and see on Lowe but a 5'7" slot does not get me excited.
I am not full ballz mode in that we have to have big backs, but if they are small they better be really skilled like gaskin Kaufman or some of the backs Oregon had under chip.
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I think Lowe is good enough out of the backfield to get actual carries as a plain old running back. That's where he's above McClutchins. I don't know if he ever will, but I think he could.NorwegianHusky said:
I mean, it's not like McClutchens sucks. I'd still like to see McShrew in the McClutchens role once he McGraduates.chuck said:
True. Maybe a little more than "barely", but he's more comparable to them as an rb than he is to Davis or the other current targets.NorwegianHusky said:Charbonnet is in the Gaskin/Ahmed tier, if not in a tier all of his own. Lowe is barely a step above McClutchens and McGrew.
I'm not a fan of the midget slot guy. You can't expect a QB to find a guy like that very often if he's not the first read, and I don't really like him as the first read because he's too easy for an otherwise subpar coverage guy to simply smother at the LOS. There are equally quick, faster, more qualified receivers out there who are at least 5'9" or 5'10" that could be brought in to play that position. They really aren't rare at all. -
Why y’all worried? We have a Dick Newton
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A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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Ballz couldn’t have said it better, oh wait...StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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Or just go awayNorwegianHusky said:
Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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Again, who the fuck is this guy? Anybody know? Seems like he's trying to be in the "in-crowd" but nobody knows who he is.kh83 said:
Or just go awayNorwegianHusky said:
Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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There's an "in-crowd" here?StrongArmCobra said:
Again, who the fuck is this guy? Anybody know? Seems like he's trying to be in the "in-crowd" but nobody knows who he is.kh83 said:
Or just go awayNorwegianHusky said:
Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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We're all out and proud in these parts.Swaye said:
There's an "in-crowd" here?StrongArmCobra said:
Again, who the fuck is this guy? Anybody know? Seems like he's trying to be in the "in-crowd" but nobody knows who he is.kh83 said:
Or just go awayNorwegianHusky said:
Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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The longer you play out this “I have no idea who this ballz guy is” schtick the more embarassing it gets. Cringeworthy really.StrongArmCobra said:
Again, who the fuck is this guy? Anybody know? Seems like he's trying to be in the "in-crowd" but nobody knows who he is.kh83 said:
Or just go awayNorwegianHusky said:
Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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It is brutal.CuntWaffle said:
The longer you play out this “I have no idea who this ballz guy is” schtick the more embarassing it gets. Cringeworthy really.StrongArmCobra said:
Again, who the fuck is this guy? Anybody know? Seems like he's trying to be in the "in-crowd" but nobody knows who he is.kh83 said:
Or just go awayNorwegianHusky said:
Stop referring to yourself in third person.StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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Hey Ballz, what do you think about these numbers?StrongArmCobra said:A debate over who's a better scat back is way worse than the ballz big back debate. Ballz never even said UW should recruit ALL big backs. Just that it was vital to have at least one in the rotation for short yardage situations (4th down against Stanford last season) and to wear defenses down by forcing them to tackle a big physical body that can also make them miss or run right past them which is why fucking Zach Charbonnet was so fucking perfect for us but KB fucked it up! Hopefully Pleasant at least beats out tiny ass McGrew and adds some thump to RB position.
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Do we have a shot with this kid?
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USC is his dream school, but he's probably going to Clemson.CuntWaffle said:Do we have a shot with this kid?