Trump's Presidency Rests on the Immigration Issue

oregonblitzkrieg

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

Yes i have heard the latest talking point about the airport. It came out yesterday and is all over the web. Thanks for sharing

People that come here via a visa are checked and about to be checked harder. With new tracking we can kick them back out when the time is up.

That is different from sneaking in illegally. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.

The wall was never an issue with most democrats until Trump won in part on it. Now its a trigger. Deal with it. DACA is a chip to get most or all of what Trump ran on.

Democrats are well aware that fucking Trump on immigration will hurt with the base. Trump knows that too. OBK is right in this thread and he is shredding the rest of you

Democrats are good with border security. Not a wall over the entire border that's useless.

HTH

Democrats on border security:

2001400ex

oregonblitzkrieg said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

Yes i have heard the latest talking point about the airport. It came out yesterday and is all over the web. Thanks for sharing

People that come here via a visa are checked and about to be checked harder. With new tracking we can kick them back out when the time is up.

That is different from sneaking in illegally. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.

The wall was never an issue with most democrats until Trump won in part on it. Now its a trigger. Deal with it. DACA is a chip to get most or all of what Trump ran on.

Democrats are well aware that fucking Trump on immigration will hurt with the base. Trump knows that too. OBK is right in this thread and he is shredding the rest of you

Democrats are good with border security. Not a wall over the entire border that's useless.

HTH

Democrats on border security:

Funny. I recall deportations going up from 2009 on.

Kaepsknee

2001400ex said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

2001400ex said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Why does his base want billions of dollars wasted on a wall?

Do airplanes, drones, tunnels, and boats not exist in your world?

There is no substitute for a good old fashioned wall. Why do people have fences? Fences won't keep out the most determined trespassers, but fences and walls are a warning: KEEP OUT, you aren't wanted here. Most will be deterred.

Do you think the border doesn't have walls already? Or there is no border security? I don't think anyone is saying to have no security. There's cheaper, more effective ways to control the border then a wall.

A wall is part of the overall defense. Build it in areas where it needs to be built. Fortify it in areas where it needs to be fortified. And make use of the other strategies you mentioned as well.

But Trump just wants to throw $18 billion at a wall. Because..... The isn't issue border security. It's doing something that's dumb just because he wants to. There's a reason no other president or Congress has just built a wall. It's only purpose is symbolic to rile up the base.

Agreed.

Unlike free school for everybody. His jingle worked.

Bernie and Hilarys didn't.

PurpleThrobber

oregonblitzkrieg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

When Hamas terrorists started bombing buses in Israel back in the early 2000's, Israel built a wall to keep them out. Did some of them still get through? Sure. Some bored tunnels like insects underground. Most of those tunnels have been located and destroyed. Bus bombings are no longer a daily occurrence there. Walls work. They aren't foolproof, but they certainly help.

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#Jewbs

Build that motherfucking wall.

Oh god oh god....

Fire_Marshall_Bill

2001400ex said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

Betray his base on this one and he's door ass out in 2020.

These 4 items are non negotiable:

--End chain migration.
--End the visa lottery program.
--Install a very strict merit based system: Only 5 star recruits need apply
--Build a wall

As long as these 4 concessions are won, his base will be perfectly happy to allow some, most or even all 800K of the 'dreamers' (illegals) to remain in the US.

You do realize most illegal immigrants entered the country legally and over stayed their visa. Right?

KOMO 4 buttfucker

pawz

The premise of the OP is FS.

It's the economy, stupid.

2001400ex

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

2001400ex said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

Betray his base on this one and he's door ass out in 2020.

These 4 items are non negotiable:

--End chain migration.
--End the visa lottery program.
--Install a very strict merit based system: Only 5 star recruits need apply
--Build a wall

As long as these 4 concessions are won, his base will be perfectly happy to allow some, most or even all 800K of the 'dreamers' (illegals) to remain in the US.

You do realize most illegal immigrants entered the country legally and over stayed their visa. Right?

KOMO 4 buttfucker

If you want to bitch about the source, the article links to the center for migration studies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216

Dude61

2001400ex said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

Yes i have heard the latest talking point about the airport. It came out yesterday and is all over the web. Thanks for sharing

People that come here via a visa are checked and about to be checked harder. With new tracking we can kick them back out when the time is up.

That is different from sneaking in illegally. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.

The wall was never an issue with most democrats until Trump won in part on it. Now its a trigger. Deal with it. DACA is a chip to get most or all of what Trump ran on.

Democrats are well aware that fucking Trump on immigration will hurt with the base. Trump knows that too. OBK is right in this thread and he is shredding the rest of you

Democrats are good with border security. Not a wall over the entire border that's useless.

HTH

Democrats on border security:

Funny. I recall deportations going up from 2009 on.

Obama had one of the highest deportation rates of any president. Unfortunately most were repeat offenders. After deportation they would simply enter through our porous border again and again.

#inflated numbers

2001400ex

Dude61 said:

2001400ex said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

Yes i have heard the latest talking point about the airport. It came out yesterday and is all over the web. Thanks for sharing

People that come here via a visa are checked and about to be checked harder. With new tracking we can kick them back out when the time is up.

That is different from sneaking in illegally. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.

The wall was never an issue with most democrats until Trump won in part on it. Now its a trigger. Deal with it. DACA is a chip to get most or all of what Trump ran on.

Democrats are well aware that fucking Trump on immigration will hurt with the base. Trump knows that too. OBK is right in this thread and he is shredding the rest of you

Democrats are good with border security. Not a wall over the entire border that's useless.

HTH

Democrats on border security:

Funny. I recall deportations going up from 2009 on.

Obama had one of the highest deportation rates of any president. Unfortunately most were repeat offenders. After deportation they would simply enter through our porous border again and again.

#inflated numbers

That's right. I remember that Obama executive order to destroy the existing wall.

Dude61

#porous border