Fiesta Bowl rewatch thoughts
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And that's really hard to do. It's like a semi-intelligent person being more stupider than krisvashon.RaceBannon said:I have the game but haven't watched it again or deleted it. It was so painful to watch but I'm curious if it was really THAT horrible
@Gladstone good comment on fans who never watched us being shocked at how horrible Browning is.
Worst winning qb ever. And worse than a lot of our loser QBs
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And that you did.Tequilla said:
I've seen too many people trying to take my TL, DR crown away from me in posts this week ... had to make a "statement" postGladstone said:I appreciate the post and it was a good one, but ffs Teq I know you have a personality and reputation on here but cut that up into like 4 separate posts or something. idk
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You were in NOLA? Did they fix the toilet at that restaurant?
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We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid. -
Trade Brownshits for McSorley and UW wins rather easily. Say, 34-17.
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RoadDawg55 said:
We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
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This was a big game, but I’m not as disappointed.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
Stanford was our season. The next 3 were MW scrimmage, should-be MW scrimmage, nationally televised exhibition game.
Watch the Stanford game. We have very little confidence in our game when the opposition brings any kind of size. And the coaches have no faith in our o line in any situation in year fucking 4. -
haie said:
This was a big game, but I’m not as disappointed.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
Stanford was our season. The next 3 were MW scrimmage, should-be MW scrimmage, nationally televised exhibition game.
Watch the Stanford game. We have very little confidence in our game when the opposition brings any kind of size. And the coaches have no faith in our o line in any situation in year fucking 4.
UW is absolutely the classic bully who traumatizes weak opponents, but doubts themselves and folds when someone as big or bigger squares up. -
Exactly. This was a big loss. It should have been a program-elevating win. Slight step backwards imo.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game. -
44-6 ain't no fluke though
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Really? I saw a team that was flat-out better being better, until they weren't. Washington getting back into that game was predicated on that PSU fumble on the shovel pass, leading to a short field and score, and your coach not panicking and calling a nails series to open the second half. Down 28-7, Washington was just being beaten by a better team with more good players.RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
For reasons we needn't discuss, it would blow up my DNA to compliment or give credit to PSU. I really hate that fucking program and all their fans ... even more than I hate southern hillbilly-sponsored progrums.RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
But I saw a fundamentally better team beat a fundamentally good but less good team. I credit your coach for Washington being able to make a game of it. That second half drive was ALL Peterman knowing what in the fuck to do. The short-field fumble (unforced) helped a lot. And Washington took advantage of some opportunities, which you have to credit them for. But at one point it was 28-7 and it looked like you were going to be ridden like a mule, until it didn't.
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I’ve always believe Washington can be good enough to compete with anyone, but we need a difference maker at QB.
We lack talent in places and hopefully that changes, but a great QB is an equalizer. Whoever said, switch QB’s and we win was correct.
We don’t lose to ASU with a better QB and we probably don’t lose to Stanford, even though our defense got shredded.
As hard as we are on Myles Bryant, there is a real possibility he’s just better than Molden and other 4 star recruits. If there aren’t better guys, it’s not an indictment on Bryant, BBK, or Nick Harris. -
@creepycoug analysis of UW football is always hurtful.
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Call me crazy, but when I watch Kirkland whiff all day I start to curse out Henry Roberts for not being able to supplant that dudBayDawg said:Yes, Harris was bad, but watch Kirkland early in the game. Just watch. There were plays where he didnt even get a hand on his assignment. It was mind blowing.
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Well there's this: Gaskin may have been the third best player on the field. You have to give Barkeley the top spot, and arguably McSorely the second. If Peterman could have found a way to continue trickeration with Gaskin you might win that one. But Peterman knows trickeration better than me or anyone else here, and he probably knows that if you do it over and over again it's not trickeration. Washington couldn't just run him on Penn State straight up, he knew that and picked his spots. Still, the guy just needs a little crease and it's over. In any event, he sure as shit showed up to play. So there's that.haie said:@creepycoug analysis of UW football is always hurtful.
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Stanford SUCKED last year.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
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TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Stanford SUCKED last year.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
HTH
It was a big must win game for UW and Browning didnt choke. That was my point.
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That game was not chokeable.PostGameOrangeSlices said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Stanford SUCKED last year.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
HTH
It was a big must win game for UW and Browning didnt choke. That was my point.
Hth
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Games are always chokeable.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
That game was not chokeable.PostGameOrangeSlices said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Stanford SUCKED last year.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
HTH
It was a big must win game for UW and Browning didnt choke. That was my point.
Hth
hTh
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We also need 1-2 more classes like the one we have signed. We need size.RoadDawg55 said:I’ve always believe Washington can be good enough to compete with anyone, but we need a difference maker at QB.
We lack talent in places and hopefully that changes, but a great QB is an equalizer. Whoever said, switch QB’s and we win was correct.
We don’t lose to ASU with a better QB and we probably don’t lose to Stanford, even though our defense got shredded.
As hard as we are on Myles Bryant, there is a real possibility he’s just better than Molden and other 4 star recruits. If there aren’t better guys, it’s not an indictment on Bryant, BBK, or Nick Harris. -
CrootinWilburHooksHands said:
We also need 1-2 more classes like the one we have signed. We need size.RoadDawg55 said:I’ve always believe Washington can be good enough to compete with anyone, but we need a difference maker at QB.
We lack talent in places and hopefully that changes, but a great QB is an equalizer. Whoever said, switch QB’s and we win was correct.
We don’t lose to ASU with a better QB and we probably don’t lose to Stanford, even though our defense got shredded.
As hard as we are on Myles Bryant, there is a real possibility he’s just better than Molden and other 4 star recruits. If there aren’t better guys, it’s not an indictment on Bryant, BBK, or Nick Harris. -
@Swaye FTW. Add in better QB play and play calling (BUSH!) and that, amigos, is the recipe to leveling up.Swaye said:- Agree on Fuller. With Chico back in the Chico role, we just need Ty Jones and one of the freshman (Spiker/Ozzy) to emerge as the 1-2 punch with Fuller as a good third option slot guy.
- With Adams and McGary back, and another year for Watty, OL looks to be better next year than it was this year, but Harris has got to slide to center because he is getting abused at G.
- I never bash the kids but Myles Bryant has no business on the field.
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Yet somehow, miraculously, we were down one score at the end and if Pettis hadn’t run out of bounds we would have had a shot.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:A lot of us underrated Franklin as a coach going in. Well I did anyway. He was 9-4 at fucking Vanderbilt. I mean, that's the SEC, that's like going 16-0 in the NFL...but seriously, he outcoached us.
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We had one throw to the end zone if Pettis ran out of bounds ... way less than a 5% chance of getting a tie game ...Fear_Boner said:
Yet somehow, miraculously, we were down one score at the end and if Pettis hadn’t run out of bounds we would have had a shot.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:A lot of us underrated Franklin as a coach going in. Well I did anyway. He was 9-4 at fucking Vanderbilt. I mean, that's the SEC, that's like going 16-0 in the NFL...but seriously, he outcoached us.
Now, if you want to talk about being down one score with 6+ minutes to go and thinking that the defense could have got a stop and turned it right back over to the offense ... then yeah, we had a shot at that point. -
Slight clarification, agree otherwise.Tequilla said:
We had one throw to the 10 yard line if Pettis ran out of bounds ... way less than a 5% chance of getting a tie game ...Fear_Boner said:
Yet somehow, miraculously, we were down one score at the end and if Pettis hadn’t run out of bounds we would have had a shot.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:A lot of us underrated Franklin as a coach going in. Well I did anyway. He was 9-4 at fucking Vanderbilt. I mean, that's the SEC, that's like going 16-0 in the NFL...but seriously, he outcoached us.
Now, if you want to talk about being down one score with 6+ minutes to go and thinking that the defense could have got a stop and turned it right back over to the offense ... then yeah, we had a shot at that point. -
If the defense had gotten that one stop, I think we?d have stolen a win. The pettis play is immaterial
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I compromised and watched the game via the 60 Minute Replay on the innovative B1G Network. It showed me that what I saw with my lying eyes was real and there was no reason to watch the broadcast.
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Why we lost that game comes down to being deficient in many areas and then getting rolled.
In any one position we are generally pretty good, but when you add them all up we just fall pretty short.
If we are behind PSU 10% on average at every position, that's not really bad, but over the course of the game it really adds up. Turnovers and their lackadaisical play in the second half were the only reasons we were in it. Oh, and Myles Gaskin.
We have two problems:
1) Our recruiting has not gotten us enough playmakers. We have guys who are "FINE" and can execute the game plan, so they don't look egregiously bad generally... but they can't do anything special to help you win games against good opponents).
2) We are scared and led by the absolute worst QB in the world to lead any team out of an inferiority complex. -
Neither was ASU this year. hthTierbsHsotBoobs said:
That game was not chokeable.PostGameOrangeSlices said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Stanford SUCKED last year.PostGameOrangeSlices said:RoadDawg55 said:We weren’t that much worse than Penn State. The margin was small. They are good, but I would imagine Penn State has players they know are weak.
We came out flat, played like shit, and got buried either. You can’t give up 93 yard TD runs.
We need more talent, but a lot of it was just playing like shit the first half. It’s somewhat surprising that a well coached team like UW would come out so flat and timid.
UW players dont know if they can win these games. Other teams are more confident.
This loss was really disappointing. UW needed to win to turn the corner. Instead, the players lost another huge program changing game.
Beating Colorado last year was not impressive. Lost the only 2 big games.
The Stanford game from last year is looking more and more like a fluke.
We need to beat Auburn.
HTH
It was a big must win game for UW and Browning didnt choke. That was my point.
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The problem with UW right now is they are still really bad at specific spots. Specifically depth pretty much everywhere. It’s getting better but it still isn’t quite there yet.
