The One Flaw in the Willie Gator Theory
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QPOTWMosster47 said:Here is why Willie would be an idiot to leave Eugene:
He can recruit a Top 5 class every year.
The demand is much lower than any SEC school.
In the Pac-12 there will be one program with the talent comparable to what he is recruiting and they almost always fuck up their coaching hires.
The SEC has four programs with USC type talent and a fifth that has it about every third year. If aTm ever makes a good hire that would make seasons where half the conference is loaded. The demand on success for the coaches is crazy as well.
The playoff is going to go to 8 teams sooner rather than later. It would be pretty easy to be 10-2 from Eugene on a yearly basis and get in there most years. As UW moves closer and closer to Boise State level and Stanford lays on everyone with one skill kid the Pac-12 is the easiest road in the business. The money will be there if you win no matter where you are. -
How am I wrong?creepycoug said:
Da doog run run run, da doog run run.dnc said:
Oregon didn't have a duckade long run of anything except dominating a shit UW team.oregonblitzkrieg said:"Kelly is a college winner until he's not." It's funny watching all these doogs yank Kelly's schlong like a bunch of horny schoolgirls. They're the same ones that continually trash Oregon's duckade long run of excellence.
They had a four year run of excellence with Chip at the helm, so good that they still had one great year and a really good one left in them under Helfrich.
A great six year run, all thanks to Chip.
Oregon was mediocre before Chip got there as OC and they became mediocre after Chip's players were gone.
Oregon didn't have a run. Chip did.
Chip's an incredible coach. Oregon's just another program.
Jesus.
Oregon has 10 10 win seasons in their history. Kelly was the HC for four of them and the OC for one of them. In 6 years at the school. And his players added another two. Kelly's the common demoninator for 70% of the 10 win seasons in their history.
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I don't disagree with your assessment of Chip. I disagree with your assessment of Oregon's run as being the sum total of beating shit UW teams. Playing for a couple titles, racking up a couple rose bowls and a few other BCS bows, a Heisman winner, etc. is a good run. They've had great played in the past.dnc said:
How am I wrong?creepycoug said:
Da doog run run run, da doog run run.dnc said:
Oregon didn't have a duckade long run of anything except dominating a shit UW team.oregonblitzkrieg said:"Kelly is a college winner until he's not." It's funny watching all these doogs yank Kelly's schlong like a bunch of horny schoolgirls. They're the same ones that continually trash Oregon's duckade long run of excellence.
They had a four year run of excellence with Chip at the helm, so good that they still had one great year and a really good one left in them under Helfrich.
A great six year run, all thanks to Chip.
Oregon was mediocre before Chip got there as OC and they became mediocre after Chip's players were gone.
Oregon didn't have a run. Chip did.
Chip's an incredible coach. Oregon's just another program.
Jesus.
Oregon has 10 10 win seasons in their history. Kelly was the HC for four of them and the OC for one of them. In 6 years at the school. And his players added another two. Kelly's the common demoninator for 70% of the 10 win seasons in their history.
He's a fucking special coach.
On the talent part, I'd say some of Bellotti's teams had better talent than many of Chip's. Chip is a better, much better, coach.
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That's not what I said. They're run under Chip was incredible. Probably as good of a four year run as any Pac school's ever had. Certainly as good as there ever was without winning a ring.creepycoug said:
I don't disagree with your assessment of Chip. I disagree with your assessment of Oregon's run as being the sum total of beating shit UW teams. Playing for a couple titles, racking up a couple rose bowls and a few other BCS bows, a Heisman winner, etc. is a good run. They've had great played in the past.dnc said:
How am I wrong?creepycoug said:
Da doog run run run, da doog run run.dnc said:
Oregon didn't have a duckade long run of anything except dominating a shit UW team.oregonblitzkrieg said:"Kelly is a college winner until he's not." It's funny watching all these doogs yank Kelly's schlong like a bunch of horny schoolgirls. They're the same ones that continually trash Oregon's duckade long run of excellence.
They had a four year run of excellence with Chip at the helm, so good that they still had one great year and a really good one left in them under Helfrich.
A great six year run, all thanks to Chip.
Oregon was mediocre before Chip got there as OC and they became mediocre after Chip's players were gone.
Oregon didn't have a run. Chip did.
Chip's an incredible coach. Oregon's just another program.
Jesus.
Oregon has 10 10 win seasons in their history. Kelly was the HC for four of them and the OC for one of them. In 6 years at the school. And his players added another two. Kelly's the common demoninator for 70% of the 10 win seasons in their history.
He's a fucking special coach.
On the talent part, I'd say some of Bellotti's teams had better talent than many of Chip's. Chip is a better, much better, coach.
I'm just saying outside of Chip, Bellotti beat up on Ty. Not really impressive. Fuck, Bellotti lost to Gilby. That should be a fireable offense. -
Theyre not just another program, they're a shit program that hit the booster powerball for a billion fucking dollars.creepycoug said:
Da doog run run run, da doog run run.dnc said:
Oregon didn't have a duckade long run of anything except dominating a shit UW team.oregonblitzkrieg said:"Kelly is a college winner until he's not." It's funny watching all these doogs yank Kelly's schlong like a bunch of horny schoolgirls. They're the same ones that continually trash Oregon's duckade long run of excellence.
They had a four year run of excellence with Chip at the helm, so good that they still had one great year and a really good one left in them under Helfrich.
A great six year run, all thanks to Chip.
Oregon was mediocre before Chip got there as OC and they became mediocre after Chip's players were gone.
Oregon didn't have a run. Chip did.
Chip's an incredible coach. Oregon's just another program.
Jesus. -
Mosster47 said:
Here is why Willie would be an idiot to leave Eugene:
He can recruit a Top 5 class every year.
The demand is much lower than any SEC school.
In the Pac-12 there will be one program with the talent comparable to what he is recruiting and they almost always fuck up their coaching hires.
The SEC has four programs with USC type talent and a fifth that has it about every third year. If aTm ever makes a good hire that would make seasons where half the conference is loaded. The demand on success for the coaches is crazy as well.
The playoff is going to go to 8 teams sooner rather than later. It would be pretty easy to be 10-2 from Eugene on a yearly basis and get in there most years. As UW moves closer and closer to Boise State level and Stanford lays on everyone with one skill kid the Pac-12 is the easiest road in the business. The money will be there if you win no matter where you are.
El oh El. MossterFuckingStupid. Stick to fishing. -
Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz. -
So unAmerican. Shame on you.WilburHooksHands said:
Theyre not just another program, they're a shit program that hit the booster powerball for a billion fucking dollars.creepycoug said:
Da doog run run run, da doog run run.dnc said:
Oregon didn't have a duckade long run of anything except dominating a shit UW team.oregonblitzkrieg said:"Kelly is a college winner until he's not." It's funny watching all these doogs yank Kelly's schlong like a bunch of horny schoolgirls. They're the same ones that continually trash Oregon's duckade long run of excellence.
They had a four year run of excellence with Chip at the helm, so good that they still had one great year and a really good one left in them under Helfrich.
A great six year run, all thanks to Chip.
Oregon was mediocre before Chip got there as OC and they became mediocre after Chip's players were gone.
Oregon didn't have a run. Chip did.
Chip's an incredible coach. Oregon's just another program.
Jesus. -
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this. -
dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
No. No he isn't.
Bellotti is no where near as good as Peterman. He pretty much is Graham's equal. Fifth or six best coach in the Pac 12 but only because several teams don't have coaches right now.
Remember - any thing Mike did was done with Phil's massive resources. Hell - Bellotti wouldn't do what Whittingham has done in Utah if he was at Utah.
Ditto for MB at WSU.
