BTW - you know he didn't actually touch her in the airplane picture, right? Doesn't make it right but it changes the nature of the offense from unwanted touching to unwanted attention - which is the difference between "dickhead" and "criminal."
At least he's not dismissing it as "locker room talk" and threatening to sue his accuser.
Sark > Ty!
Disagree.
Taking responsibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deflecting
Of course it is.
It's almost like being caught saying something offensive and being caught doing something offensive are different things. You can't deflect the accusation of forcing your tongue in someone's mouth as "locker room talk", nor a picture of you pretending to feel someone up while their asleep as "locker room talk". Franken's deflected a ton of offensive things he's said over the years. This is a completely different situation.
On the scales of what is worse than something else Actual rape >>>> pseudo fondling >>>>>>>>>>>> saying something offensive.
Actions are bigger than words, even in this pussy society. Comparing the response to wrong words to the response of wrong action is fucktarded. And I've defended Franken in this and can't stand Trump.
I hate Al Franken, but this is getting stoopid now. News flash, people have been grabbing tits for thousands of years. Everyone on this bored with hair on their balls has done it. I have done it. Whatever. Sure, full on assault is bad, as is buggering 14 year olds, but half of this shit is now "he pinched my butt" bullshit. Rape is bad. Doing kids is bad. Half of this shit is Oops, I grabbed your ass. NOSGAF
Speaking of grabbing tits. How did all that end? You get a three way with your girl’s friend or what?
I hate Al Franken, but this is getting stoopid now. News flash, people have been grabbing tits for thousands of years. Everyone on this bored with hair on their balls has done it. I have done it. Whatever. Sure, full on assault is bad, as is buggering 14 year olds, but half of this shit is now "he pinched my butt" bullshit. Rape is bad. Doing kids is bad. Half of this shit is Oops, I grabbed your ass. NOSGAF
Where does depantsing a chick where the underwear also came down in front of the whole class in 7th grade fall?
I hate Al Franken, but this is getting stoopid now. News flash, people have been grabbing tits for thousands of years. Everyone on this bored with hair on their balls has done it. I have done it. Whatever. Sure, full on assault is bad, as is buggering 14 year olds, but half of this shit is now "he pinched my butt" bullshit. Rape is bad. Doing kids is bad. Half of this shit is Oops, I grabbed your ass. NOSGAF
Speaking of grabbing tits. How did all that end? You get a three way with your girl’s friend or what?
At least he's not dismissing it as "locker room talk" and threatening to sue his accuser.
Sark > Ty!
Disagree.
Taking responsibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deflecting
Of course it is.
It's almost like being caught saying something offensive and being caught doing something offensive are different things. You can't deflect the accusation of forcing your tongue in someone's mouth as "locker room talk", nor a picture of you pretending to feel someone up while their asleep as "locker room talk". Franken's deflected a ton of offensive things he's said over the years. This is a completely different situation.
On the scales of what is worse than something else Actual rape >>>> pseudo fondling >>>>>>>>>>>> saying something offensive.
Actions are bigger than words, even in this pussy society. Comparing the response to wrong words to the response of wrong action is fucktarded. And I've defended Franken in this and can't stand Trump.
*> = worse.
All that being said Jake Browning sucks.
Let's see, there's:
Al Franken ("actual rape", apology, submission to Ethics Committee and probable career over);
And... you've got Kevin Spacey ("actual rape") deflect - career over;
Louis C.K. (masturbating in front of women, apology - career over);
Harvey Weinstein ("actual rape" - deflect, career over and possible prosecution);
Roy Moore ("actual rape" - fondling a 14-year old, plying an underaged teenager with alcohol and forcibly coming onto another in a parking lot and dating numerous other teenage girls) - denial, still running for Senate in Alabama and will probably win;
Trump has gone well beyond words if you listen to his many, many accusers.
Besides admitting to touching "locker room talk," actual walking into dressing rooms of half-dressed teenage pageant hos... there was the Ivana Trump rape allegation in a deposition which she backed off from due to an NDA, an unwanted kiss ("actual rape") of Temple Taggart, Jill Harth - groping (actual rape?), Natasha Stoynoff, pushed against a wall and unwanted kiss ("actual rape"), Jessica Leeds - groped on plane (actual rape?), Summer Zervos, "actual rape" and then some - suing). And Trump has deflected, and his voters were willing to look the other way to keep Killary out of the White House.
Leaving aside some other names who have been caught up in this whole thing, like Oliver Stone, Roy Price, Ben Affleck, the US women's gymnastics team doctor, etc. - from the political standpoont the gap between Franken and Troomp/Moore seems pretty wide.
And I reckon this shit goes a lot further, what with the use of NDAs and settlements to cover things up. And if worse comes to worse, you can just flee the country if you're popular with Euroartfags like Roman Polanski.
And the thing is - the people who actually apologize are opening themselves up to civil suit and possibly criminal prosecution depending on the circumstances. It's an incredibly dangerous thing to do that no lawyer would ever advise you to do, in terms of your own personal liability.
Let's see what the people in Alabama decide to do. I don't think the guy Moore's running against ever raped or harassed anyone, although I suppose we're probably going to find out as the oppo research machine gets into full gear.
Oh yeah, and Butbillclinton? Got his shit dragged through the mud in the 1990's. Not much came of it then when there was no incentive for a woman to hold back. But who knows, maybe more women will come forward now. If there was ever an opportune moment, this is it.
At least he's not dismissing it as "locker room talk" and threatening to sue his accuser.
Sark > Ty!
Disagree.
Taking responsibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deflecting
Of course it is.
It's almost like being caught saying something offensive and being caught doing something offensive are different things. You can't deflect the accusation of forcing your tongue in someone's mouth as "locker room talk", nor a picture of you pretending to feel someone up while their asleep as "locker room talk". Franken's deflected a ton of offensive things he's said over the years. This is a completely different situation.
On the scales of what is worse than something else Actual rape >>>> pseudo fondling >>>>>>>>>>>> saying something offensive.
Actions are bigger than words, even in this pussy society. Comparing the response to wrong words to the response of wrong action is fucktarded. And I've defended Franken in this and can't stand Trump.
*> = worse.
All that being said Jake Browning sucks.
Let's see, there's:
Al Franken ("actual rape", apology, submission to Ethics Committee and probable career over);
And... you've got Kevin Spacey ("actual rape") deflect - career over;
Louis C.K. (masturbating in front of women, apology - career over);
Harvey Weinstein ("actual rape" - deflect, career over and possible prosecution);
Roy Moore ("actual rape" - fondling a 14-year old, plying an underaged teenager with alcohol and forcibly coming onto another in a parking lot and dating numerous other teenage girls) - denial, still running for Senate in Alabama and will probably win;
Trump has gone well beyond words if you listen to his many, many accusers.
Besides admitting to touching "locker room talk," actual walking into dressing rooms of half-dressed teenage pageant hos... there was the Ivana Trump rape allegation in a deposition which she backed off from due to an NDA, an unwanted kiss ("actual rape") of Temple Taggart, Jill Harth - groping (actual rape?), Natasha Stoynoff, pushed against a wall and unwanted kiss ("actual rape"), Jessica Leeds - groped on plane (actual rape?), Summer Zervos, "actual rape" and then some - suing). And Trump has deflected, and his voters were willing to look the other way to keep Killary out of the White House.
Leaving aside some other names who have been caught up in this whole thing, like Oliver Stone, Roy Price, Ben Affleck, the US women's gymnastics team doctor, etc. - from the political standpoont the gap between Franken and Troomp/Moore seems pretty wide.
And I reckon this shit goes a lot further, what with the use of NDAs and settlements to cover things up. And if worse comes to worse, you can just flee the country if you're popular with Euroartfags like Roman Polanski.
And the thing is - the people who actually apologize are opening themselves up to civil suit and possibly criminal prosecution depending on the circumstances. It's an incredibly dangerous thing to do that no lawyer would ever advise you to do, in terms of your own personal liability.
Let's see what the people in Alabama decide to do. I don't think the guy Moore's running against ever raped or harassed anyone, although I suppose we're probably going to find out as the oppo research machine gets into full gear.
Oh yeah, and Butbillclinton? Got his shit dragged through the mud in the 1990's. Not much came of it then when there was no incentive for a woman to hold back. But who knows, maybe more women will come forward now. If there was ever an opportune moment, this is it.
The locker room talk deflection was in response to the thing he said, not a thing he did. I'm not Trump apologist. I'm just ponting out that you're comparing apples and orange presidents.
I’m hearing Weinstein is putting together a new reality show called Guilty/ Not-Guilty starring Bill Clinton, Al Franken and Kevin Spacey questioning both sides in the dispute with Judge Roy Moore presiding.
she was asking for it. look at how she was dressed
EDIT: apparently there is a CD of photos from the USO tour in question. Might be fun to see the rest of the pics.
Also, I note that Franken actually apologized in a not-totally-douchey way. There's no moral equivalence between this and shit like Moore's stocking teen girlz at the local mall or Kevin Spacey's apparent serial groperizing and attempting to use gayness as a shield.
If more shit comes out on Franken, then that would be bad for him, particularly if it is more recent than 2006 and especially after he got into public service, since I tend to hold public servants to a higher standard than comedians and actors.
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This little war is actually getting interesting. Politicians using sex as a weapon is pretty fucking stupid but we're talking about politicians
Do you give up Franken to keep the war going against the GOP?
If he goes the Dem governer appoints another dem.
I tend to focus on the evidence that has corrorboration. Although the photo can certainly be used as corroboration of the vic's version of events.
with that said, goodbye and jake browning sucks
Frankenpology.
At least he's not dismissing it as "locker room talk" and threatening to sue his accuser.
Taking responsibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deflecting
It's almost like being caught saying something offensive and being caught doing something offensive are different things. You can't deflect the accusation of forcing your tongue in someone's mouth as "locker room talk", nor a picture of you pretending to feel someone up while their asleep as "locker room talk". Franken's deflected a ton of offensive things he's said over the years. This is a completely different situation.
On the scales of what is worse than something else Actual rape >>>> pseudo fondling >>>>>>>>>>>> saying something offensive.
Actions are bigger than words, even in this pussy society. Comparing the response to wrong words to the response of wrong action is fucktarded. And I've defended Franken in this and can't stand Trump.
*> = worse.
All that being said Jake Browning sucks.
Al Franken ("actual rape", apology, submission to Ethics Committee and probable career over);
And... you've got Kevin Spacey ("actual rape") deflect - career over;
Louis C.K. (masturbating in front of women, apology - career over);
Harvey Weinstein ("actual rape" - deflect, career over and possible prosecution);
Roy Moore ("actual rape" - fondling a 14-year old, plying an underaged teenager with alcohol and forcibly coming onto another in a parking lot and dating numerous other teenage girls) - denial, still running for Senate in Alabama and will probably win;
Trump has gone well beyond words if you listen to his many, many accusers.
Besides admitting to touching "locker room talk," actual walking into dressing rooms of half-dressed teenage pageant hos... there was the Ivana Trump rape allegation in a deposition which she backed off from due to an NDA, an unwanted kiss ("actual rape") of Temple Taggart, Jill Harth - groping (actual rape?), Natasha Stoynoff, pushed against a wall and unwanted kiss ("actual rape"), Jessica Leeds - groped on plane (actual rape?), Summer Zervos, "actual rape" and then some - suing). And Trump has deflected, and his voters were willing to look the other way to keep Killary out of the White House.
Leaving aside some other names who have been caught up in this whole thing, like Oliver Stone, Roy Price, Ben Affleck, the US women's gymnastics team doctor, etc. - from the political standpoont the gap between Franken and Troomp/Moore seems pretty wide.
And I reckon this shit goes a lot further, what with the use of NDAs and settlements to cover things up. And if worse comes to worse, you can just flee the country if you're popular with Euroartfags like Roman Polanski.
And the thing is - the people who actually apologize are opening themselves up to civil suit and possibly criminal prosecution depending on the circumstances. It's an incredibly dangerous thing to do that no lawyer would ever advise you to do, in terms of your own personal liability.
Let's see what the people in Alabama decide to do. I don't think the guy Moore's running against ever raped or harassed anyone, although I suppose we're probably going to find out as the oppo research machine gets into full gear.
Oh yeah, and Butbillclinton? Got his shit dragged through the mud in the 1990's. Not much came of it then when there was no incentive for a woman to hold back. But who knows, maybe more women will come forward now. If there was ever an opportune moment, this is it.
The rest is TLDR