Myles Murao, 2020 OL, Santa Ana (Mater Dei), CA (COMMITTED 😳)
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@dnc 247 explanation of their rankings:
"110 - 101 = Franchise Player. One of the best players to come along in years, if not decades. Odds of having a player in this category every year is slim. This prospect has "can’t miss" talent.
100 - 98 = Five-star prospect. One of the top 30 players in the nation. This player has excellent pro-potential and should emerge as one of the best in the country before the end of his career. There will be 32 prospects ranked in this range in every football class to mirror the first round of the NFL Draft.
97 - 90 = Four-star prospect. One of the top 300 players in the nation. This prospect will be an impact-player for his college team. He is an All-American candidate who is projected to play professionally.
89 - 80 = Three-star prospect. One of the top 10% players in the nation. This player will develop into a reliable starter for his college team and is among the best players in his region of the country. Many three-stars have significant pro potential.
79 - below = Two-star prospect. This player makes up the bulk of Division I rosters. He may have little pro-potential, but is likely to become a role player for his respective school."
You'll also notice how recruits rated as 4 and 5 stars have NFL comparisons in the their profiles as well as where they are projected to be drafted. This is common knowledge. How you have gone this long not knowing this is baffling. The rankings are based on projecting NFL draft potential, not college potential.
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Excellent pro potential and mirroring the draft isn’t the same this as “projected first round picks”.StrongArmCobra said:@dnc 247 explanation of their rankings:
"110 - 101 = Franchise Player. One of the best players to come along in years, if not decades. Odds of having a player in this category every year is slim. This prospect has "can’t miss" talent.
100 - 98 = Five-star prospect. One of the top 30 players in the nation. This player has excellent pro-potential and should emerge as one of the best in the country before the end of his career. There will be 32 prospects ranked in this range in every football class to mirror the first round of the NFL Draft.
97 - 90 = Four-star prospect. One of the top 300 players in the nation. This prospect will be an impact-player for his college team. He is an All-American candidate who is projected to play professionally.
89 - 80 = Three-star prospect. One of the top 10% players in the nation. This player will develop into a reliable starter for his college team and is among the best players in his region of the country. Many three-stars have significant pro potential.
79 - below = Two-star prospect. This player makes up the bulk of Division I rosters. He may have little pro-potential, but is likely to become a role player for his respective school."
You'll also notice how recruits rated as 4 and 5 stars have NFL comparisons in the their profiles as well as where they are projected to be drafted. This is common knowledge. How you have gone this long not knowing this is baffling. The rankings are based on projecting NFL draft potential, not college potential.
Pro potential is factored in, it’s still less significant than college potential.
ATBS that’s not how Scot did it who was the west coast standard for years. I concede I was wrong on 247. -
It’s really hard for 18 year olds to lose weight when training with an elite strength and conditioning coach while getting top shelf nutrition.Domicillo said:
Because Biggins couldn’t stop talking about how he gained 30 pounds and he didn’t like how he physically looked now, instead of remarking about how he is coming off a broke leg and that’s why he gained the weight.backthepack said:Gets top 5 OL at the opening coming off injury playing at 80%. Somehow drops 42 spots.
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Props to ballz for actually researching and defending his position for once. Real progress was made today. I’m glad I could be part of it.
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Biggins just has a sore asshole from a Mater Dei kid spurning SC. FTG
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I’m still in the biggins udub bias bandwagon.
I know he doesn’t determine rankings by himself but the lemmings (and loys) follow so his opinions hold weight.
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StrongArmCobra said:
The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college. -
When is ESPN going to explain their criteria?DoogCourics said:StrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college. -
I knew Ballz was right because of Zach Banner. Someone asked Biggins how he was the 11th best OT in his recruiting class because he sucked and Biggins said the rankings are based on NFL potential.DoogCourics said:StrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college.
It has to get murky at times though. There are dual threat QB’s that don’t have the arm to be a high pick in the NFL draft, but should still be highly rated. -
They sure nailed that oneRoadDawg55 said:
I knew Ballz was right because of Zach Banner. Someone asked Biggins how he was the 11th best OT in his recruiting class because he sucked and Biggins said the rankings are based on NFL potential.DoogCourics said:StrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college.
It has to get murky at times though. There are dual threat QB’s that don’t have the arm to be a high pick in the NFL draft, but should still be highly rated. -
He was a 5th round draft pick. He played well as a senior. It wasn’t as bad as it seems.bananasnblondes said:
They sure nailed that oneRoadDawg55 said:
I knew Ballz was right because of Zach Banner. Someone asked Biggins how he was the 11th best OT in his recruiting class because he sucked and Biggins said the rankings are based on NFL potential.DoogCourics said:StrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college.
It has to get murky at times though. There are dual threat QB’s that don’t have the arm to be a high pick in the NFL draft, but should still be highly rated. -
247 is FS if they grade their recruiting rankings with the results of the NFL draft.bananasnblondes said:
They sure nailed that oneRoadDawg55 said:
I knew Ballz was right because of Zach Banner. Someone asked Biggins how he was the 11th best OT in his recruiting class because he sucked and Biggins said the rankings are based on NFL potential.DoogCourics said:StrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college.
It has to get murky at times though. There are dual threat QB’s that don’t have the arm to be a high pick in the NFL draft, but should still be highly rated.
If that's the case, they should factor in the 3-5 years of development these kids get at each school once they commit. Cam Williams with 3-4 years of Socha and Lake? He should've been elevated to a 5* when he committed.
You can bump this when he's taken in the first round. -
RoadDawg55 said:
He was a 5th round draft pick. He played well as a senior. It wasn’t as bad as it seems.bananasnblondes said:
They sure nailed that oneRoadDawg55 said:
I knew Ballz was right because of Zach Banner. Someone asked Biggins how he was the 11th best OT in his recruiting class because he sucked and Biggins said the rankings are based on NFL potential.DoogCourics said:StrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential. Obviously he didn't gain bad weight because he's lazy and he's gonna lose the bad weight in college if not before he arrives on campus. Stupid reason to drop him. His NFL potential has not changed at all. But that's Biggins for ya. I'm sure he's pissed he's not going to USC.
StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
dnc said:
Bull. Shit.StrongArmCobra said:
What are you talking about? The 247 rankings are based on projecting NFL potential. How do you not know this? 5-star for projected 1st round picks. 4-star for projected NFL draft pick. 3-star for projected UDFA.dnc said:
Wrong.gifStrongArmCobra said:The rankings are supposed to be a projection of NFL potential.
Feel free to produce a link backing that claim up. You won’t. You can’t. It’s about college projection not NFL.
Also there’s this.
HTH
Not usually one to back @StrongArmCobra over @dnc but.......
https://247sports.com/podcast/the-247sports-recruiting-podcast-12/
Podcast 6 days ago spends a good 25 minutes on why they do their rankings based on NFL projections. 32 5 stars to mirror the 1st round. Moved Bryce Young to a 5 star because he’s similar to Mayfield and Murray and they went 1st.
Lots of discussion how they look at body types and projections, and they analyze 1st rounders and what they looked like in high school. Such as how most TE are not developed in high school and the high drafted ones have huge gains in college.
It has to get murky at times though. There are dual threat QB’s that don’t have the arm to be a high pick in the NFL draft, but should still be highly rated.
Also won a Rose Bowl and popped off. FML -
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Ntd,bb
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Myles mothafooking Murao!
I'm so excited about that dude.
- awesome player and dude
- mothafooking Mater Dei!
- people forget or don't realize how important of a recruit he is because he's opened up the consciousness of Cali kids going to Mater Dei that's it's not just okay to go to Washington but it's the way to go. -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/usatodayhss.com/2019/what-we-learned-no-3-mater-dei-42-centennial-12/amp
More Myles Murao love. Hope Korey thinks "man, I'm going to Washington to be developed and compete with and against this guy"
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I know it’s in the other thread but poasting here for his eternal glory in his thread.
Edit: One more!!
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Remember when idiots ranked Korey Foreman ahead of JTT?DoogCourics said:I know it’s in the other thread but poasting here for his eternal glory in his thread.
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GIDDY! Myles is so good!
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Two classes in a row with an OL that dominated a 5 star DE. We’re going to have a monster OL in a couple of years.dnc said:
Remember when idiots ranked Korey Foreman ahead of JTT?DoogCourics said:I know it’s in the other thread but poasting here for his eternal glory in his thread.
Yeah, I'm bitter. -
The disrespect is unreal.dnc said:
Remember when idiots ranked Korey Foreman ahead of JTT?DoogCourics said:I know it’s in the other thread but poasting here for his eternal glory in his thread.
Yeah, I'm bitter. -
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Holy shit that was beautiful. And this guy is going to play Center!?
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Yeah, he said in an interview that he was playing left tackle and guard because of team need but he's being recruited as a Nick Harris replacement.1to392831weretaken said:Holy shit that was beautiful. And this guy is going to play Center!?
He's about 6'1"-6'2" but uber athletic and quick feet and powerful. He's Nick Harris 2.5 -
Yep. A more powerful Nick Harris seems about right.animate said:
Yeah, he said in an interview that he was playing left tackle and guard because of team need but he's being recruited as a Nick Harris replacement.1to392831weretaken said:Holy shit that was beautiful. And this guy is going to play Center!?
He's about 6'1"-6'2" but uber athletic and quick feet and powerful. He's Nick Harris 2.5 -
Biggins:
Santa Ana (Calif.) Mater Dei offensive lineman Myles Murao showed why he’s among the nation’s top prospects in Monarchs big opening season win.
Murao broke his leg last October in week nine of the season. He rehabbed hard all off-season, made The Opening Finals and had a strong showing back in July. You could tell he still wasn’t a 100% back to his old form.
He had gained about 30 pounds since his injury so his athleticism and lateral quickness weren’t all the way back but he was still able to perform well because of his superior technique, toughness and smarts.
On Friday, Murao and his teammates took on perennial state power Corona (Calif.) Centennial and the game within the game matchup we hoped to see was the Washington commit going head to head with standout junior defensive end Korey Foreman. Murao will play center for the Huskies but plays left tackle at Mater Dei and showed why he's the state's top offensive line prospect.
While the two didn’t go head to head on every play, they did line up opposite each other a handful of times and Murao got the best of the matchup. Murao looked great all game long and was dominant in the run game and even better in pass protection.
He plays about as physical as any lineman in the region and is very difficult to play against. He plays through the whistle and isn’t just content to block his man, he’s trying to bury him in to the ground on every play.
He looked quicker and more athletic than he did at the The Opening Finals and is primed for a great senior year. The Monarchs are currently rated the No. 1 team in the nation and are led by one of the top offensive lines in the country.
PM to Pac-12:
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Trigger warning @dnc
Biggins:
On his current ranking and why he isn’t higher
“He's going to play great, no doubt about it, he's a great HS player. Remember, rankings are based on the NFL Draft and his profile- a 300+ lineman who projects as a center, doesn't fit what you see in the 1st or 2nd round of the Draft. His ranking right now reflects being drafted in 3rd-4th round, which is pretty dang good. I think he could move up and I still love the kid, I'm his biggest fan but just not sure he projects as a top of the draft guy. Similar with Ethan Garbers, he'll throw for a million yards this year but we're going off projection more then sheer numbers. Hope that makes some sense.”
On how he is so calm and well spoken off the field but nasty on it.
“Classic kid who can flip a switch. One of the angriest lineman I've seen, doesn't matter the setting and I mean that as a compliment.”
On how it’s dumb that the rankings are based on pro potential for @dnc.
“I've said that exact same thing, lets not skip college and aren't our recruiting team rankings based on who we feel should compete for college playoffs in a few years? So I'm with you, but the counter was using college success is subjective, the NFL Draft is the easiest way to measure if you hit or miss and the reality is, most, not all, but the majority of the great college players will be drafted higher then guys who didn't perform as well in college.”
On why Tate Martell sucks ass.
“I was with Scout at the time Tate came up and we actually had him as a 5-star because our rankings were based on college accomplishment, not pro potential. Size was always a concern with Tate but you have to understand, you can make a case he had the best career of any HS QB ever, he never lost a game against high level competition. It was his class that we started to say, 'lets discount size a bit, there are plenty of NFL QBs in the 6-0 range that are showing they can play and this kid is really special.' Unfortunately for Tate, it hasn't happened for him yet. I know a lot of people who like to take shots at the rankings will say Tate not performing well proves 'stars don't matter' but the guys who have beaten him out- Dwayne Hawkins, Jarren Williams and even throw in Justin Fields, were all rated higher then Tate coming out of HS.”
On why high ranked kids bust.
“It's definitely the off the field stuff. When a five star kid busts, it's rarely if ever something physical. Sometimes it's a player who doesn't really love the game so it when it gets hard, he taps out. Or his work ethic is bad or he lacks toughness, that's a big one and hard to see. I think with lineman, that's where you miss a lot because it's hard to gauge toughness when you can physically overwhelm every kid in HS because you're so much bigger. Then you get to college and get punched in the mouth for the first time by a player as big as you and many have no idea how to react. Then there's factors beyond your control like injuries, talent around you, coaching, scheme fit, etc.” -
This dudes hands are thick as bricks lmaoNeighbor2972 said:
Assuming that he can make the transition to snapping and other nuances I wouldn't know about as a former skill position player, he will be starting year one.
That's one fucking game of blocking, what a beast