Official Ken Burn's Vietnam War Thread
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I am a vietnam era vet and want absolutely nothing to do with any programs about nam. I was fortunate to go to Europe where I defended your asses by consuming as much German bier and wine as possible so that poison would not be shipped to the states. Where I was lucky, I saw too many nam vets lose it when news of being sent back, a door slamming, or getting too high made them break down in tears. I didn't go but too many people I know did. Thank God I didn't qualify with a rifle in boot camp with good scores.
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You weren't there?RaceBannon said:I'm up to date. Have some thoughts when I have the time
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Did we win yet?
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Race was too young to be in the shit. Shocking I know.HuskyJW said:
You weren't there?RaceBannon said:I'm up to date. Have some thoughts when I have the time
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YellowSnow said:
Race was too old to be in the shit. Shocking I know.HuskyJW said:
You weren't there?RaceBannon said:I'm up to date. Have some thoughts when I have the time
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I love WW II as much as the next history buff. That said, it gets so much Pub it's worthwhile to take a break and study all the shitty wars we've fought that weren't as satisfying to the nation.oregonblitzkrieg said:I like WW 2 history. Clear cut cases of good (or less evil) vs evil. Don't give a shit about Vietnam or 60's history. At all. The villains were all lame. No Hitlers, Stalins or Tojos.
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This is as accurately told as anything Ken Burns has produced.dflea said:
Nobody gives a shit about you, either, junior.oregonblitzkrieg said:I like WW 2 history. Clear cut cases of good (or less evil) vs evil. Don't give a shit about Vietnam or 60's history. At all. The villains were all lame. No Hitlers, Stalins or Tojos.
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There were some Viet Cong hotties.
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I like the WW2 as well because my grandpa was in it and there was unconditional surrender, which means victory.oregonblitzkrieg said:I like WW 2 history. Clear cut cases of good (or less evil) vs evil. Don't give a shit about Vietnam or 60's history. At all. The villains were all lame. No Hitlers, Stalins or Tojos.
I didn't like Vietnam because all of the vets I knew growing up, which were a lot didn't have a lot of pride in their service and the general public viewed their service as a waste.
I joined the military in the summer of 2001 and got out in June. I spent my entire career at war against a word, that morphed into a war against a religion, that morphed into war against a region. It wasn't winnable when we started and it won't be when we finally give up. The net positive is the loss of American lives were much less than Vietnam. I had a hand in some of the projects that ensured a lot of kids made it home in one piece that probably wouldn't have if things continued the way they started after "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" with that stuttering dipshit on an aircraft carrier in a rented flight suit.
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Mission Accomplished was arguably the worst publicity stunt in modern times by a president. The fuck were they thinking.Mosster47 said:
I like the WW2 as well because my grandpa was in it and there was unconditional surrender, which means victory.oregonblitzkrieg said:I like WW 2 history. Clear cut cases of good (or less evil) vs evil. Don't give a shit about Vietnam or 60's history. At all. The villains were all lame. No Hitlers, Stalins or Tojos.
I didn't like Vietnam because all of the vets I knew growing up, which were a lot didn't have a lot of pride in their service and the general public viewed their service as a waste.
I joined the military in the summer of 2001 and got out in June. I spent my entire career at war against a word, that morphed into a war against a religion, that morphed into war against a region. It wasn't winnable when we started and it won't be when we finally give up. The net positive is the loss of American lives were much less than Vietnam. I had a hand in some of the projects that ensured a lot of kids made it home in one piece that probably wouldn't have if things continued the way they started after "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" with that stuttering dipshit on an aircraft carrier in a rented flight suit.
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Good Free Pub for @Dennis_DeYoung with Episode 3 titled The River Styx.
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Under Kennedy it went from 600 American “advisers” over there to almost 6000. So I don’t think Kennedy would have done anything different.JaWarrenJaHooker said:The strategy from the very beginning was totally fucking stupid and DOOMED us throughout.
Wonder if things would have been any different if JFK never dies. Probably not but whatever
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iDawg, wherever the fuck he is, nailed NPR when he described it's sole purpose as letting us know that everything we know is wrong, during a pod with Race, once.PurpleThrobber said:
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Too young, but a bunch of of neighbors and cousins went. I got to work and go to school with a bunch of Amer-Asian kids who's GI dads made it with South V women. Lots of boat kids also. Good peeps, mostly. Hard working. Many staunchly Cathlolic.
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Some hilarious free Pub for Slick Willie and Dubya in Episode 4. They are discussing draft dodgers and rich young white guys who got to serve in the National Guard. There is a quick shot of a college photo of Clinton followed by GW in the air national guard. Neither are mentioned by name.
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Were used to that around hereTurdBuffer said:Too young, but a bunch of of neighbors and cousins went. I got to work and go to school with a bunch of Amer-Asian kids who's GI dads made it with South V women. Lots of boat kids also. Good peeps, mostly. Hard working. Many staunchly Cathlolic.
Far too enamored with Euro exhaust systems on their Hondas, though. Really, really retarded in that sense.
